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Post#701 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 12:42 pm

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Bob8 wrote:The best odds you can get for Lakers winning Nba title is +1.600 and +15.000 for Mavs.


Weirdly enough, there is a high chance these two teams play each other already in the 1st round and i think Mavs should be massive favorites to win lol...


No please. We don't deserve this shame too.

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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#702 » by Archx » Mon Mar 3, 2025 12:50 pm

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Bob8 wrote:The best odds you can get for Lakers winning Nba title is +1.600 and +15.000 for Mavs.


Weirdly enough, there is a high chance these two teams play each other already in the 1st round and i think Mavs should be massive favorites to win lol...


I would say it's unlikely they meet in round 1. Lakers have incredibly difficult schedule, not only because of strength but because they have to play rescheduled games and many back2backs. 17 games in March, 3 back2back in 8 days. Lakers will most likely finish somewhere between 3-5 and Mavs will very difficult to finish in top 6. Wolves have extremely easy schedule and Warriors are playing better after the trade.

Anyway I don't believe roster with 2 bigs and only Kyrie as capable creator will be as good as people think. Not enough creation and even less spacing, not something that brings success in playoffs.


Yeah i think you're right. Forgot LAL have a difficult schedule plus injuries right now. I think they'll end up somewhere in the 3-5 range.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#703 » by GermanFan120 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 2:10 am

Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#704 » by Apz » Tue Mar 4, 2025 3:33 am

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Weirdly enough, there is a high chance these two teams play each other already in the 1st round and i think Mavs should be massive favorites to win lol...


I would say it's unlikely they meet in round 1. Lakers have incredibly difficult schedule, not only because of strength but because they have to play rescheduled games and many back2backs. 17 games in March, 3 back2back in 8 days. Lakers will most likely finish somewhere between 3-5 and Mavs will very difficult to finish in top 6. Wolves have extremely easy schedule and Warriors are playing better after the trade.

Anyway I don't believe roster with 2 bigs and only Kyrie as capable creator will be as good as people think. Not enough creation and even less spacing, not something that brings success in playoffs.


Yeah i think you're right. Forgot LAL have a difficult schedule plus injuries right now. I think they'll end up somewhere in the 3-5 range.


On tje other hand they are 9-0 in last 9 games vs above .500 opposition so who knows
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#705 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:23 am

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I would say it's unlikely they meet in round 1. Lakers have incredibly difficult schedule, not only because of strength but because they have to play rescheduled games and many back2backs. 17 games in March, 3 back2back in 8 days. Lakers will most likely finish somewhere between 3-5 and Mavs will very difficult to finish in top 6. Wolves have extremely easy schedule and Warriors are playing better after the trade.

Anyway I don't believe roster with 2 bigs and only Kyrie as capable creator will be as good as people think. Not enough creation and even less spacing, not something that brings success in playoffs.


Yeah i think you're right. Forgot LAL have a difficult schedule plus injuries right now. I think they'll end up somewhere in the 3-5 range.


On tje other hand they are 9-0 in last 9 games vs above .500 opposition so who knows


The biggest problem isn't strength of the schedule, but combination of it with numbers of games they have to play and back2backs. They have the most games to be played in Nba, because of LA fire, and the most back2backs. LeBron is amazing but still 40 years old, JJ will need to find some rest for him.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#706 » by Astaluego » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:21 am

On the other hand, Luka's injury could be a blessing in disguise for them... he will arrive at the Playoff this year in peak form and with the freshest legs ever.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#707 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:16 am

We deserved all. It's called Karma.

**** you Nico Harrison. Stupid moron.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#708 » by Mavrelous » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:09 am

Well, looks like the relationship between Luka and Kidd/FO was very bad and Kyrie was the mediator between them, the moment this trade happened, I was certain it was a conspiracy, now I'm certain it wasn't, Nico Harrison is a control freak who doesn't understand that in the business he's in, talent trumps all, not any talent, but loyal, popular and very successful talent, and Jason Kidd is a snake.
It is sad what happened to Kyrie, he had to carry their incompetence before the trade and after it until his ACL snapped.
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Post#709 » by ACMFFL » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:48 am

To me it's still a conspiracy. They're trying so hard to make Mr. Harrison look stupid, but in my opinion it wasn't malpractice but malice. He was just the executioner and Silver the instigator..this league cannot afford the Lakers to be bad (they had an aging core and basically no future picks, in a couple of seasons they would have been done), Mavs were just the sacrificial lamb.
Even if Mr. Harrison actually hated Luka and didnt want him here, why in the blue hell would the governor approve such a suicidal trade? First time ever that a top5 player in his prime got shipped midseason without even being disgruntled at all, he actually planned to be a Mav for life..
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#710 » by Mavrelous » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:54 am

ACMFFL wrote:To me it's still a conspiracy. They're trying so hard to make Mr. Harrison look stupid, but in my opinion it wasn't malpractice but malice. He was just the executioner and Silver the instigator..this league cannot afford the Lakers to be bad (they had an aging core and basically no future picks, in a couple of seasons they would have been done), Mavs were just the sacrificial lamb.
Even if Mr. Harrison actually hated Luka and didnt want him here, why in the blue hell would the governor approve that suicidal trade? First time ever that a top5 player in his prime got shipped midseason without even being disgruntled at all, he actually planned to be a Mav for life..

Every report that's coming out sheds more and more light, Nico and Luka had a personal beef, this didn't come out of the blue, Nico hated Luka, he was a controlling micro manager and Luka didn't like to be micro managed, this has been brewing for a very long time, and Nico have stripped Luka of every ally he had in the team like Iztok detailed in his piece.
The stupid one in this story is Dumont, who didn't seek expert opinion when Nico came to him with the bizarre request, he's also the one stuck with the bill, Nico was extended, Kidd was extended, they got their money, he's stuck with a crumbling franchise, with angry fan base and no future picks.
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Post#711 » by ACMFFL » Wed Mar 5, 2025 8:58 am

But even then, why did they gift Luka to LAL? That's the tricky part of this story.
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Post#712 » by Mavrelous » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:04 am

He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#713 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:07 am

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ACMFFL wrote:To me it's still a conspiracy. They're trying so hard to make Mr. Harrison look stupid, but in my opinion it wasn't malpractice but malice. He was just the executioner and Silver the instigator..this league cannot afford the Lakers to be bad (they had an aging core and basically no future picks, in a couple of seasons they would have been done), Mavs were just the sacrificial lamb.
Even if Mr. Harrison actually hated Luka and didnt want him here, why in the blue hell would the governor approve that suicidal trade? First time ever that a top5 player in his prime got shipped midseason without even being disgruntled at all, he actually planned to be a Mav for life..

Every report that's coming out sheds more and more light, Nico and Luka had a personal beef, this didn't come out of the blue, Nico hated Luka, he was a controlling micro manager and Luka didn't like to be micro managed, this has been brewing for a very long time, and Nico have stripped Luka of every ally he had in the team like Iztok detailed in his piece.
The stupid one in this story is Dumont, who didn't seek expert opinion when Nico came to him with the bizarre request, he's also the one stuck with the bill, Nico was extended, Kidd was extended, they got their money, he's stuck with a crumbling franchise, with angry fan base and no future picks.


Mav, the personal beef between Luka and that moron is clear.

Btw you can't trade him to your buddy in secret and for that **** package.
It's collusion.
It's against the sport spirit.
It's a shame for all NBA fans because a lot of them will never trust in the league.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#714 » by ACMFFL » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:08 am

Mavrelous wrote:He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.


But still, why the LAL and their underwhelming package? I'm pretty sure at least half of the league would have beaten that offer in a hearbeat.
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Post#715 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:09 am

COLLUSION.
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Post#716 » by Bob8 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:44 am

Mavrelous wrote:He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.


I agree that it was the idiot behind the trade. What is difficult to understand is, why send a player you hate in LA, Utah would be perfect punishment for example, and then even don't take everything Lakers have from them, basically helping your ex player you hate to play with better roster? You stabbed him in the back and then give him the best gift possible? Wtf? Everything Nico did is as idiotic as it gets or...
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#717 » by Mavrelous » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:48 am

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.


I agree that it was the idiot behind the trade. What is difficult to understand is, why send a player you hate in LA, and then even don't take everything they have from them, basically helping your ex player you hate? You stabbed him in the back and then give him the best gift possible? Wtf? Everything Nico did is as idiotic as it gets or...


No one would have guessed Lakers become 22 Mavs, I thought they will spiral TBH, Lakers weren't a good situation to send Luka to,, they turned around after DFS trade, and he wanted AD, looks like they are freinds.
Nico believes AD is a better player than Luka, and Lakers were barely a play in with AD, I truly believe he thought Lakers would miss the PO.
He didn't take everything because Pelinka wanted to talk to Luka, and Nico didn't want him to, which makes sense and is in line with the thinking of him wanting to get out of the situation w/o drama, leave the drama to after the trade.
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Re: Luka traded to the Lakers 

Post#718 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:52 am

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.


I agree that it was the idiot behind the trade. What is difficult to understand is, why send a player you hate in LA, Utah would be perfect punishment for example, and then even don't take everything Lakers have from them, basically helping your ex player you hate to play with better roster? You stabbed him in the back and then give him the best gift possible? Wtf? Everything Nico did is as idiotic as it gets or...


I don't see any close friend to him in Utah...
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Post#719 » by Bob8 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 10:02 am

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mavrelous wrote:He was either trading him now in secret, before the dirty laundry gets out, or as an expiring in the off season, in a very ugly divorce, his statements in the Cleveland press conference about tumultus summer actually make much more sense now that we understand what was going behind the scenes.


I agree that it was the idiot behind the trade. What is difficult to understand is, why send a player you hate in LA, and then even don't take everything they have from them, basically helping your ex player you hate? You stabbed him in the back and then give him the best gift possible? Wtf? Everything Nico did is as idiotic as it gets or...


No one would have guessed Lakers become 22 Mavs, I thought they will spiral TBH, Lakers weren't a good situation to send Luka to,, they turned around after DFS trade, and he wanted AD, looks like they are freinds.
Nico believes AD is a better player than Luka, and Lakers were barely a play in with AD, I truly believe he thought Lakers would miss the PO.
He didn't take everything because Pelinka wanted to talk to Luka, and Nico didn't want him to, which makes sense and is in line with the thinking of him wanting to get out of the situation w/o drama, leave the drama to after the trade.


Then he's even bigger idiot I thought he is.

Lakers are perfectly built for Luka except not having good rim protector. They're much better than 22 Mavs because they're much bigger and more talented team, LeBron is much bigger and better defender than young Brunson, AR is a big improvement over Dinwiddie, RUI is better than Bullock, DFS=DFS, and you have Vando, who's great defender. Knecht can shoot as good as THJ. They're better or the same in every position, much bigger and better defenders. Having players like Vando and DFS coming from the bench is great luxury too.

Yes Lakers are playing small ball a lot, but people don't understand they're still big, they basically are playing with 5 wings, their PGs are 6'8, both very good rebounders. That's totally different small ball you would normally see with other teams and that's the reason it works.

And we shouldn't forget the coach, JJ Redick is enormous improvement over Kidd.
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Post#720 » by ACMFFL » Wed Mar 5, 2025 11:19 am

Sorry but I still dont buy it.
AD is not in the same league with Luka, even the most idiotic and clueless human being on this planet should know it. I mean, mr. Harrison was already there in Dallas when Luka led Brunson and a bunch of role players to the WCF. On the other hand AD has never ever passed the 2nd round without LBJ and LAL whistles.

Why trading one of the most valuable assets in this business (only Jokic and maybe Wemby are higher in my book) for damaged good?
He tried to swap him with Ant and then he settled for 32 years old AD, 1 distant pick and a role player who has Mikal ceiling at very best? No man, it's not realistic at all.

I'm not a conspiracy guy at all, but damn, logic and rationality are put to the test here..
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