Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Archx]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

This is basically Cam for PJ trade with a bunch of throw ins.

I think it would be a decent trade for the future but not if you want to win now. Cam is 20yo and would grow with Lively and Flagg. If everyone is healthy, Mavs will have enough defense but will suddenly lack offense and shooting with this trade so it makes no sense for Nico's "win now" objective.

Also, Mavs need a playmaking guard and swapping great role players like PJ for another random wing role player makes no sense. You will have a hard time finding a good replacement for PJ.

The ONLY trade people should be focusing on is the one that involves Gafford. That's the only riddle Nico has to solve... but then again, who am i kidding, this FO is dumb as a brick.

Cam is the reason I do this trade. PJ is eligible for an extension after next season I believe. If they are looking to keep costs down trading for Cam Whitmore and his potential might not be a bad idea. Like you said he’s only 20 years old and could grow with Flagg and Lively. I want them to keep PJ but if a trade is necessary I would consider this one.

As for why does Houston do this? Because PJ is better right now.

Yeah, i mentioned you have 2 scenarios now. You either go with Nico's "win now" or build for the future. But if you go with win now, you cannot have another young guy on the team instead of a proven veteran in PJ. If you trade PJ, you trade AD and Kyrie also. Do a complete rebuild and go from there. That's obviously the most logical choice.

But if you want to compete, you don't trade PJ because it's hardly anyone that can replace him at his value. Keeping PJ is easy if you get rid of Gafford and don't take back any long term salaries.

[ACMFFL]

As usual I agree with Archx but let me say that since we owe our 2027 1st, even if we trade AD and we tank next season, Mavs still have to build a competitive team by 2026/2027 otherwise they will just gift a valuable pick to CHA. Unless we get that pick back but if we put AD on the market, the value and price of that 1st will skyrocket.
That's why I'd keep PJ even if AD is moved, in the end he's still young enough to fit Flagg/Lively timeline and I dont want to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

[Astaluego]

Praying for Nico and the GM to be fired, I want to build their team around what would be their pick and cornerstone. With Flagg/Lively (+Christie) .Ironically, I don't think AD with his age and salary has an overwhelming market, but Houston seems like a perfect trade partner, who could also give us the young boost we need. Sheppard/Whitmore/Landale/JGreen (to match salaries) + 10 for AD/Martin
It's my midsummer night's dream.

Klay/Gafford/PJ/Marshall+ 10 for PG +3 +Future FRP?

Lively/Landale
Flagg/*PG
Bailey/Whitmore
Green/Christie
Sheppard/*KI

[daoneandonly]

Praying for Nico and the GM to be fired, I want to build their team around what would be their pick and cornerstone. With Flagg/Lively (+Christie) .Ironically, I don't think AD with his age and salary has an overwhelming market, but Houston seems like a perfect trade partner, who could also give us the young boost we need. Sheppard/Whitmore/Landale/JGreen (to match salaries) + 10 for AD/Martin
It's my midsummer night's dream.

Klay/Gafford/PJ/Marshall+ 10 for PG +3 +Future FRP?

Lively/Landale
Flagg/*PG
Bailey/Whitmore
Green/Christie
Sheppard/*KI

Im with you on firing Nico and trading AD, but I disagree on Houston being the team to deal with. This team has an annoying history of having overpaid SG who have a lot of flaws or straight-up suck. Finley, Matthews, THJ, Josh Green; really don't want to add Jalen Green who may be the worst of them all (okay no one is worse than Josh, but still)

[Mr B]

Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).

[arkuo]

Would you guys trade AD for Zion + Herb?

You know, I think I would. Zion is a dice roll but there is upside. Amd we know what we're getting with Herb.

[Mavrelous]

Would you guys trade AD for Zion + Herb?

You know, I think I would. Zion is a dice roll but there is upside. Amd we know what we're getting with Herb.

I wouldn't, even before the rape allgations.

[ACMFFL]

I have this bad feeling that mr. Harrison plan is still to trade all of our depth and future picks to acquire KD. Hopefully HOU/SAS/MIN will outbid us in that scenario.

[41Dirk41]

Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).

I disagree, Dumont was really pissed after Luka trade for what happens (fans, media ecc ecc).

The #1 pick (rigged, luck or whatever it was) saved him but if the Mavs will not competitive next year he is done.
Dumont& Adelsons are not basketball guys but they are not stupid.

[41Dirk41]

I have this bad feeling that mr. Harrison plan is still to trade all of our depth and future picks to acquire KD. Hopefully HOU/SAS/MIN will outbid us in that scenario.

That's sure.

KD or someone else... Like i said, Nico has to win ASAP. His chair is hot. Really hot.

[Darren]

Let's say, SAS offers 14 pick and TE for PJ. Will the Mavs take this offer? After landing top pick, the Mavs is getting way above 2nd apron. The Spurs need an elite defender. The Mavs get back something for PJ and could spend more in FA.

[Archx]

Let's say, SAS offers 14 pick and TE for PJ. Will the Mavs take this offer? After landing top pick, the Mavs is getting way above 2nd apron. The Spurs need an elite defender. The Mavs get back something for PJ and could spend more in FA.

Mavs won't be able to do anything in free agency regardless. Their best hope is getting something back for Gafford or sign vet min guys. Why is that so hard to understand? They are not trading PJ because he is a more vital and a much better piece that actually fits than Gafford.

NBA Second Apron Penalties.

-Teams do not have access to the taxpayer midlevel exception.
-Teams cannot use trade exceptions created when combining the salaries of multiple players.
-Teams cannot use trade exceptions from any prior year.
-Teams lose the ability to trade first-round picks that are seven years in the future.
-If teams remain in the second apron for any three years in a five-year period, their upcoming first-round draft pick is automatically moved to the end of the first round.

[Mr B]

Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).

I disagree, Dumont was really pissed after Luka trade for what happens (fans, media ecc ecc).

The #1 pick (rigged, luck or whatever it was) saved him but if the Mavs will not competitive next year he is done.
Dumont& Adelsons are not basketball guys but they are not stupid.

They’re not going to fire Nico and go full rebuild while they’re trying tonight get approval for a new arena. They are going to continue the “win now” mode until at least the vote for a new arena is held. Once the stadium is approved and built the Adelson’s will sell the team.

[Darren]

Praying for Nico and the GM to be fired, I want to build their team around what would be their pick and cornerstone. With Flagg/Lively (+Christie) .Ironically, I don't think AD with his age and salary has an overwhelming market, but Houston seems like a perfect trade partner, who could also give us the young boost we need. Sheppard/Whitmore/Landale/JGreen (to match salaries) + 10 for AD/Martin
It's my midsummer night's dream.

Klay/Gafford/PJ/Marshall+ 10 for PG +3 +Future FRP?

Lively/Landale
Flagg/*PG
Bailey/Whitmore
Green/Christie
Sheppard/*KI

I think Phily keeps the 3rd pick. Bailey is easily top pick had it not been for 2025. Look at the starting lineup. That's a great starting 5 on paper. Emiid-Bailey-George-Grimes-Maxey. That's fantastic 5.

[Darren]

If the Mavs has to trade AD/PJ/Gaff, I want Egor Demin coming back as rebuilding piece. You have Lively-Flagg-Demin-Christie-William for rebuilding core.

[41Dirk41]

Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).

I disagree, Dumont was really pissed after Luka trade for what happens (fans, media ecc ecc).

The #1 pick (rigged, luck or whatever it was) saved him but if the Mavs will not competitive next year he is done.
Dumont& Adelsons are not basketball guys but they are not stupid.

They’re not going to fire Nico and go full rebuild while they’re trying tonight get approval for a new arena. They are going to continue the “win now” mode until at least the vote for a new arena is held. Once the stadium is approved and built the Adelson’s will sell the team.

We don't need to go in full rebuild mode, we don't have our picks.

The "win now" mode is fail 6 months ago, Harrison can lie for the first 2/3 months of the new season and then Dumont will Fire him.

[41Dirk41]

If the Mavs has to trade AD/PJ/Gaff, I want Egor Demin coming back as rebuilding piece. You have Lively-Flagg-Demin-Christie-William for rebuilding core.

PJ and Gafford are young and proven players, resign them at the right price and it's ok.

[Darren]

If the Mavs has to trade AD/PJ/Gaff, I want Egor Demin coming back as rebuilding piece. You have Lively-Flagg-Demin-Christie-William for rebuilding core.

PJ and Gafford are young and proven players, resign them at the right price and it's ok.

That's true. I think keeping both is nice. But what's the right price for PJ, Gafford and Lively? Without Flagg, I won't even consider trading PJ at all. Anyway, I am high on Demin. That's 6-10 PG with long arms is exceptional.

[41Dirk41]

If the Mavs has to trade AD/PJ/Gaff, I want Egor Demin coming back as rebuilding piece. You have Lively-Flagg-Demin-Christie-William for rebuilding core.

PJ and Gafford are young and proven players, resign them at the right price and it's ok.

That's true. I think keeping both is nice. But what's the right price for PJ, Gafford and Lively? Without Flagg, I won't even consider trading PJ at all. Anyway, I am high on Demin. That's 6-10 PG with long arms is exceptional.

I like Demin too...

[arkuo]

Reports are Mavs are in on Herb Jones. Didn't say for who. My guess is Gaff and a pick.