Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[agentofatlas]

Collins is Meyers Leonard who actual plays like a big. If the choice is between Collins, Monk, Mitchell or Lauri, I'm kinda leaning towards Collins. Though it's close with Monk and Mitchel. Hopefully we get another pick at take a risk on guards like maybe a Frank Jackson.

[Mr B]

Collins is Meyers Leonard who actual plays like a big. If the choice is between Collins, Monk, Mitchell or Lauri, I'm kinda leaning towards Collins. Though it's close with Monk and Mitchel. Hopefully we get another pick at take a risk on guards like maybe a Frank Jackson.

Collins AND Frank Jackson? I wouldn't be mad at that at all. If we miss out on one of the top PG's.

[Yennefer]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

[Baz]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

[dirkforpres]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

I'm not a big fan of the 'White big guys can't play' argument, but with that being said I'm not very high on Collins or Markkanen. I think the risk greatly outweighs the reward with either of those guys, and the Mavs are in a place right now where they really can't afford to take chances like that. If Smith did fall to us, I would be ecstatic but I think he and Ntilikina will both be gone. Odds are we will be choosing between Monk, Mitchell, and Markkanen for our pick and honestly I would be ok with any of them (preferably Monk)

[Baz]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

I'm not a big fan of the 'White big guys can't play' argument, but with that being said I'm not very high on Collins or Markkanen. I think the risk greatly outweighs the reward with either of those guys, and the Mavs are in a place right now where they really can't afford to take chances like that. If Smith did fall to us, I would be ecstatic but I think he and Ntilikina will both be gone. Odds are we will be choosing between Monk, Mitchell, and Markkanen for our pick and honestly I would be ok with any of them (preferably Monk)

Monk I will be satisfied with but still very disappointed to lose out on a PG. I'm just really hoping Orlando take Monk, Minnesota take Isaac (which is what a lot of the mock drafts are thinking) and we are left with one of Ntilikina or Smith. Imagine the scenes if we took Markkanen if Smith was available though..

[Devassa]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

I'm not a big fan of the 'White big guys can't play' argument, but with that being said I'm not very high on Collins or Markkanen. I think the risk greatly outweighs the reward with either of those guys, and the Mavs are in a place right now where they really can't afford to take chances like that. If Smith did fall to us, I would be ecstatic but I think he and Ntilikina will both be gone. Odds are we will be choosing between Monk, Mitchell, and Markkanen for our pick and honestly I would be ok with any of them (preferably Monk)

If it plays out like that, then Monk has to be the pick or trading it. I gotta hope that Dallas is reaching out to Portland in regards to some of those picks. I wouldn't mind taking on Ezeli and Turner for Matthews and Harris if it meant getting a couple of those picks

[daoneandonly]

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

I'm not a big fan of the 'White big guys can't play' argument, but with that being said I'm not very high on Collins or Markkanen. I think the risk greatly outweighs the reward with either of those guys, and the Mavs are in a place right now where they really can't afford to take chances like that. If Smith did fall to us, I would be ecstatic but I think he and Ntilikina will both be gone. Odds are we will be choosing between Monk, Mitchell, and Markkanen for our pick and honestly I would be ok with any of them (preferably Monk)

If it plays out like that, then Monk has to be the pick or trading it. I gotta hope that Dallas is reaching out to Portland in regards to some of those picks. I wouldn't mind taking on Ezeli and Turner for Matthews and Harris if it meant getting a couple of those picks

Not if it does not include the 15th pick. And I'd rather trade our pick if Monk was the BPA, unfortunately I think the scenario will likely play out where we miss out on the top guns. If that's the case might as well trade down, unload Matthews, and pick up Justin Jackson and others.

[Devassa]

I'm not a big fan of the 'White big guys can't play' argument, but with that being said I'm not very high on Collins or Markkanen. I think the risk greatly outweighs the reward with either of those guys, and the Mavs are in a place right now where they really can't afford to take chances like that. If Smith did fall to us, I would be ecstatic but I think he and Ntilikina will both be gone. Odds are we will be choosing between Monk, Mitchell, and Markkanen for our pick and honestly I would be ok with any of them (preferably Monk)

If it plays out like that, then Monk has to be the pick or trading it. I gotta hope that Dallas is reaching out to Portland in regards to some of those picks. I wouldn't mind taking on Ezeli and Turner for Matthews and Harris if it meant getting a couple of those picks

Not if it does not include the 15th pick. And I'd rather trade our pick if Monk was the BPA, unfortunately I think the scenario will likely play out where we miss out on the top guns. If that's the case might as well trade down, unload Matthews, and pick up Justin Jackson and others.

It sucks that Diallo withdrew, I would have loved having him as a project here. Giles would be a good gamble in the 15-25 range if we could get him though. If he is able to return to full health, he's a top 5 prospect.

[daoneandonly]

If it plays out like that, then Monk has to be the pick or trading it. I gotta hope that Dallas is reaching out to Portland in regards to some of those picks. I wouldn't mind taking on Ezeli and Turner for Matthews and Harris if it meant getting a couple of those picks

Not if it does not include the 15th pick. And I'd rather trade our pick if Monk was the BPA, unfortunately I think the scenario will likely play out where we miss out on the top guns. If that's the case might as well trade down, unload Matthews, and pick up Justin Jackson and others.

It sucks that Diallo withdrew, I would have loved having him as a project here. Giles would be a good gamble in the 15-25 range if we could get him though. If he is able to return to full health, he's a top 5 prospect.

Agreed on Giles, I went to college with his uncle so I've heard about him for quite a while, think he'd definitely be worth a gamble in the late teens. My ideal draft would have Smith fall to us (or even better swap picks with Minny with them taking Wes) and then trading Curry for a late pick that turns into Giles or another promising big.

[Devassa]

Not if it does not include the 15th pick. And I'd rather trade our pick if Monk was the BPA, unfortunately I think the scenario will likely play out where we miss out on the top guns. If that's the case might as well trade down, unload Matthews, and pick up Justin Jackson and others.

It sucks that Diallo withdrew, I would have loved having him as a project here. Giles would be a good gamble in the 15-25 range if we could get him though. If he is able to return to full health, he's a top 5 prospect.

Agreed on Giles, I went to college with his uncle so I've heard about him for quite a while, think he'd definitely be worth a gamble in the late teens. My ideal draft would have Smith fall to us (or even better swap picks with Minny with them taking Wes) and then trading Curry for a late pick that turns into Giles or another promising big.

My ideal draft is us trading Wes for Turner and 2 of Portland's picks, then using one of them combined with #9 to move up and select Fox then taking Giles with the other. I know how unlikely it is, since it sounds like Sacramento and Fox have mutual love for one another, but he could quite possibly be the best player in the draft and
I really think the Mavs should be throwing the kitchen sink trying to get him.

Fox/Harris/Barea
Curry/Liggins
Barnes/Turner
Dirk/Giles
Noel/Mejri

[dirkforpres]

It sucks that Diallo withdrew, I would have loved having him as a project here. Giles would be a good gamble in the 15-25 range if we could get him though. If he is able to return to full health, he's a top 5 prospect.

Agreed on Giles, I went to college with his uncle so I've heard about him for quite a while, think he'd definitely be worth a gamble in the late teens. My ideal draft would have Smith fall to us (or even better swap picks with Minny with them taking Wes) and then trading Curry for a late pick that turns into Giles or another promising big.

My ideal draft is us trading Wes for Turner and 2 of Portland's picks, then using one of them combined with #9 to move up and select Fox then taking Giles with the other. I know how unlikely it is, since it sounds like Sacramento and Fox have mutual love for one another, but he could quite possibly be the best player in the draft and
I really think the Mavs should be throwing the kitchen sink trying to get him.

Fox/Harris/Barea
Curry/Liggins
Barnes/Turner
Dirk/Giles
Noel/Mejri

That would be a pretty great draft. It's hard to imagine Sacramento going for that though. We would have a better shot with the same outgoing in a deal with Minnesota and taking Smith or Ntilikina with that #7 pick... I am high on Giles as well, or Leaf if we do in fact acquire some late 1st rounders

[daoneandonly]

Agreed on Giles, I went to college with his uncle so I've heard about him for quite a while, think he'd definitely be worth a gamble in the late teens. My ideal draft would have Smith fall to us (or even better swap picks with Minny with them taking Wes) and then trading Curry for a late pick that turns into Giles or another promising big.

My ideal draft is us trading Wes for Turner and 2 of Portland's picks, then using one of them combined with #9 to move up and select Fox then taking Giles with the other. I know how unlikely it is, since it sounds like Sacramento and Fox have mutual love for one another, but he could quite possibly be the best player in the draft and
I really think the Mavs should be throwing the kitchen sink trying to get him.

Fox/Harris/Barea
Curry/Liggins
Barnes/Turner
Dirk/Giles
Noel/Mejri

That would be a pretty great draft. It's hard to imagine Sacramento going for that though. We would have a better shot with the same outgoing in a deal with Minnesota and taking Smith or Ntilikina with that #7 pick... I am high on Giles as well, or Leaf if we do in fact acquire some late 1st rounders

Fox looks like he could be a stud, but one agreed very unlikely, and 2. I heard he has a jump shot like that of Rubio, not sure if that bodes well considering we also have Noel. I think our best case scenario if the stars align is DSJ.

[Mr B]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

You mean like Darko?

[Mr B]

Collins is another of these **** white american Bigman like Zeller or Meyers Leonard. No thanks! If you draft a white Big-Guy he has to be international!

I'd take anyone over a white big-guy and I'm sure Donnie is not that stupid to even think about picking him!

lol sad but true
Collins & Markannen probably have the ceiling of Meyers Leonard or Kelly Olynyk. I'm tired of hearing about the 'Next Dirk' every single draft.. it just doesn't happen.

I'm still confident Dennis Smith Jr. will fall right into our laps. That would be the best possible outcome. I've grown on Ntilikina a little bit, so he's my 2nd favourite out of the possibilities but I'm thinking the Knicks want him. Other than any of the top PGs in the draft I won't be happy at all.

Isn't Markkanen a Euro?

[Mr B]

I'm not a big fan of trading down. Even though this draft is deeper than most it still really only goes about 12-15 deep. After that you're really just praying you find a guy that could be a good backup. Hell thats really all the Mavs could hope for picking at 9 if all of the PG's are gone. Monk, and Mitchell really are undersized 2 guards who if lucky will end up being quality scorers off the bench. They have much better talent than anyone the Mavs would draft in the middle of the 1st round though. Give me the guy with the better talent at 9 instead of a bunch of lesser guys later in the round that probably wouldn't even make the team.

[Mr B]

If it plays out like that, then Monk has to be the pick or trading it. I gotta hope that Dallas is reaching out to Portland in regards to some of those picks. I wouldn't mind taking on Ezeli and Turner for Matthews and Harris if it meant getting a couple of those picks

Not if it does not include the 15th pick. And I'd rather trade our pick if Monk was the BPA, unfortunately I think the scenario will likely play out where we miss out on the top guns. If that's the case might as well trade down, unload Matthews, and pick up Justin Jackson and others.

It sucks that Diallo withdrew, I would have loved having him as a project here. Giles would be a good gamble in the 15-25 range if we could get him though. If he is able to return to full health, he's a top 5 prospect.

I don't think they would have drafted him even if he were still in the draft. No handles, no mid range game, suspect shooter, suspect BB IQ, and doesn't play defense. Doesn't fit the mold of the kind of players Carlisle likes.

[Mr B]

If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.

[Teffer10]

If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.

I've looked at that from about every angle possible but see no way we could get that pick.
Other than Barnes I don't see anyone they would want from this team and Wes certainly isn't going to get it done.

[dirkforpres]

If the team is looking to dump Wes this could be a trading partner. Obviously it would take more than Wes but it would be a great deal for the Mavs if they could end up with both the 9th and 12th picks.

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)
5/30/17, 12:57 PM
NBA Draft scuttle: Hearing Detroit is open to discussing trades for its No. 12 overall pick in hopes of acquiring more of a win-now veteran.

Van Gundy would get fired if he traded a lotto pick and the best piece coming back was Wesley Matthews lol

What if we did a Powell, Matthews + 9 for Drummond, Johnson, and 12?