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WOuldnt mind Reddick and/or Hayes depending on the cost. Don't want Hield under almost any circumstance, nothing he brings that THJ doesnt.
I'm still on the Capela bandwagon. KP's defense is a problem, and its looking like his attitude may be as well. If we can do KP for Capela/Snell, I say go for it. Get a much better rim protector, lob threat, rebounder, and overall defender, while saving money.
I'm still on the Capela bandwagon. KP's defense is a problem, and its looking like his attitude may be as well. If we can do KP for Capela/Snell, I say go for it. Get a much better rim protector, lob threat, rebounder, and overall defender, while saving money.
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Consider reddick pretty much done, so would depend what they want. Terry? Sure go fof it. Otherwise im not really intrested in defensive liabilities
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Reddick is busy courting players to join his podcast
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Kyle Korver would be a nice option too. Teams have been trying to sign him.but he didn't like how quick the turnaround was from the bubble to the new season.
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I wouldn't waste to much energy on Capela. He seems to be a fixture in Atlanta. They need all the defense they can get since Trae Young plays very little of it.daoneandonly wrote:WOuldnt mind Reddick and/or Hayes depending on the cost. Don't want Hield under almost any circumstance, nothing he brings that THJ doesnt.
I'm still on the Capela bandwagon. KP's defense is a problem, and its looking like his attitude may be as well. If we can do KP for Capela/Snell, I say go for it. Get a much better rim protector, lob threat, rebounder, and overall defender, while saving money.
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Maybe James Johnson for Reddick? The Mavs have such a log jam at SG, I have a difficult time seeing where Reddick fits in. He used to be a really good shooter, but not shooting better than Brunson or THJ this year. I don't see the point of trading for him.
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JD45 wrote:Maybe James Johnson for Reddick? The Mavs have such a log jam at SG, I have a difficult time seeing where Reddick fits in. He used to be a really good shooter, but not shooting better than Brunson or THJ this year. I don't see the point of trading for him.
I don’t really see the point for New Orleans. Redick is also an expiring, so this deal doesn’t give them any immediate or future relief. I do think a J-Rich, DFS, and 2 2nds for Redick and Hart deal benefits both teams though
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Dont see it tbh
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Thanks to Redick. 2 years ago he would be perfect but he looks pretty much done, especially on defense.
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little interest in JRedick alone ... would you Powell for Bledsoe .. ?? JRich + Powell + Johnson for Bledsoe + Hayes + Reddick
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Definiltey want no part of Bledsoe, J Rich is a much better fit. I still think much of his struggles are related to getting COVID, he's a solid player on both sides.
I still think the main issue is KP. We need a more defensive minded C, like Myles Turner. If we could do a 3 way with KP going to Charlotte, Hayward to Indy, and Myles/filler to Mavs, that would be great.
I still think the main issue is KP. We need a more defensive minded C, like Myles Turner. If we could do a 3 way with KP going to Charlotte, Hayward to Indy, and Myles/filler to Mavs, that would be great.
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HMFFL wrote:I wouldn't waste to much energy on Capela. He seems to be a fixture in Atlanta. They need all the defense they can get since Trae Young plays very little of it.daoneandonly wrote:WOuldnt mind Reddick and/or Hayes depending on the cost. Don't want Hield under almost any circumstance, nothing he brings that THJ doesnt.
I'm still on the Capela bandwagon. KP's defense is a problem, and its looking like his attitude may be as well. If we can do KP for Capela/Snell, I say go for it. Get a much better rim protector, lob threat, rebounder, and overall defender, while saving money.
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Yea, more wishful thinking on my part.
What do you think of KP so far? Do you think he can be a #2? Do you think we should part ways if we can with him?
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Mike lorenzo wrote:little interest in JRedick alone ... would you Powell for Bledsoe .. ?? JRich + Powell + Johnson for Bledsoe + Hayes + Reddick
I'd do that trade. Absolutely.
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jpengland wrote:Thanks to Redick. 2 years ago he would be perfect but he looks pretty much done, especially on defense.
Seth Curry wasn’t exactly locking guys down on the defensive end. I think Redick is a perfect fit as a shooter coming off your bench. He likely has the same impact that Curry did when he was here. For at least 1 year anyways.
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Mr B wrote:jpengland wrote:Thanks to Redick. 2 years ago he would be perfect but he looks pretty much done, especially on defense.
Seth Curry wasn’t exactly locking guys down on the defensive end. I think Redick is a perfect fit as a shooter coming off your bench. He likely has the same impact that Curry did when he was here. For at least 1 year anyways.
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Curry was reasonable enough defensively, he had become passable. He also added some ball handling.
Redick has fallen off the cliff. He's a spot up shooter who right now can't hit his shots, is one of the worst defensive players in the league and offers nothing else. I have long been a huge fan but he's done. He'd be unplayable in the playoffs.
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Call me crazy but I think Mavs should not be looking for a trade. Ofc you should make a trade if there is a great opportunity but other than that, I'd understand Mavs FO to be passive. Considering the player performance and contracts, the only trade assets seem to be the main rotation players that playing well. I don't think Mavs should trade Brunson/DFS/Maxi/WCS. Other than Doncic all other players have their lowest values and I cant imagine a fair return for Mavs. It'd be selling low in trade and hoping for incremental improvement for this season.
I have bashed the Seth-Richardson trade and how James Johnson not adding anything. However, I kinda feel like the best option would be waiting for them to adapt. After all, I doubt if Richardson and JJ have a trade value with their expiring contracts. Their contracts still helping to have cap space in the offseason.
Just reviewing some trade ideas: a trade around Richardson-Bledsoe. I don't think Bledsoe would fit better and his contract is longer.
Redick for JJ: Redick doesn't seem good and I am not sure if he'd provide more than THJ-Burke from the bench.
After all, we don't even know if those trade deals are on the table. I would love to trade JJ for a capable PF like Thad Young or Milsapp. But if none of this available, I would not want Mavs to part ways with Brunson or Maxi to get another role player.
Just play it out. Powell/KP recovery process will help. They're moving better than the last month. WCS is getting better. Carlisle seem to found how to hide Richardson on offense and he uses Brunson more. Who knows if JJ would return to playing basketball for a contract or not? Although I am not a JJ believer, hypothetically he can give some good defensive minutes against LAC/LAL wing forwards.
I'd not mind any buyout, vet min signings like Blake, Drummond etc.
I have bashed the Seth-Richardson trade and how James Johnson not adding anything. However, I kinda feel like the best option would be waiting for them to adapt. After all, I doubt if Richardson and JJ have a trade value with their expiring contracts. Their contracts still helping to have cap space in the offseason.
Just reviewing some trade ideas: a trade around Richardson-Bledsoe. I don't think Bledsoe would fit better and his contract is longer.
Redick for JJ: Redick doesn't seem good and I am not sure if he'd provide more than THJ-Burke from the bench.
After all, we don't even know if those trade deals are on the table. I would love to trade JJ for a capable PF like Thad Young or Milsapp. But if none of this available, I would not want Mavs to part ways with Brunson or Maxi to get another role player.
Just play it out. Powell/KP recovery process will help. They're moving better than the last month. WCS is getting better. Carlisle seem to found how to hide Richardson on offense and he uses Brunson more. Who knows if JJ would return to playing basketball for a contract or not? Although I am not a JJ believer, hypothetically he can give some good defensive minutes against LAC/LAL wing forwards.
I'd not mind any buyout, vet min signings like Blake, Drummond etc.
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I totally agree, except I liked the Jrich trade fro the Mavs, but I really don't think Seth would've changed much.
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jpengland wrote:Mr B wrote:jpengland wrote:Thanks to Redick. 2 years ago he would be perfect but he looks pretty much done, especially on defense.
Seth Curry wasn’t exactly locking guys down on the defensive end. I think Redick is a perfect fit as a shooter coming off your bench. He likely has the same impact that Curry did when he was here. For at least 1 year anyways.
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Curry was reasonable enough defensively, he had become passable. He also added some ball handling.
Redick has fallen off the cliff. He's a spot up shooter who right now can't hit his shots, is one of the worst defensive players in the league and offers nothing else. I have long been a huge fan but he's done. He'd be unplayable in the playoffs.
Redick is also expiring. If the Mavs can dump a contract (even a small one) for Redick it’s a win in my opinion. He may not be that same guy he was with the Sixers but we’ve seen guys have a resurgence before. Personally I don’t see the harm. If he doesn’t work then no problem, he comes off the books at the end of the season.
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Mr B wrote:jpengland wrote:Mr B wrote:Seth Curry wasn’t exactly locking guys down on the defensive end. I think Redick is a perfect fit as a shooter coming off your bench. He likely has the same impact that Curry did when he was here. For at least 1 year anyways.
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Curry was reasonable enough defensively, he had become passable. He also added some ball handling.
Redick has fallen off the cliff. He's a spot up shooter who right now can't hit his shots, is one of the worst defensive players in the league and offers nothing else. I have long been a huge fan but he's done. He'd be unplayable in the playoffs.
Redick is also expiring. If the Mavs can dump a contract (even a small one) for Redick it’s a win in my opinion. He may not be that same guy he was with the Sixers but we’ve seen guys have a resurgence before. Personally I don’t see the harm. If he doesn’t work then no problem, he comes off the books at the end of the season.
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Cant bet on reddick having a resurgence, unless its for someone that isnt in our top 10 rotation. So sure, iwundu maybe. None rotation players and why would nop that is trying to make the playoffs do that?
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If moved I could see Osman or Prince in the deal too.
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If moved I could see Osman or Prince in the deal too.
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