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Post#761 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:37 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:Philly and IND are the best fits, Siakam is a non-spacing 4, whose game is mainly iso in the post, he's not a good fit in DAL offensively, defensively he's great.


I think he ends in PHI, MIA or Dallas... don't think IND ,SAC or ATL interest him

He's a great fit next to Myles Turner, we'll see...
It's a bizarre situation where a team wants to trade a player and he doesn't want to.


Yeah,but IND is a Young team(Haliburton,Mathurin) and I don't think they become a contender by adding him...PHI makes more sense
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Post#762 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:42 pm

However it would be important enter in that trade... Even landing Tobias Harris should be good for us.
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Post#763 » by BliscoSantos » Mon Jan 1, 2024 10:47 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:However it would be important enter in that trade... Even landing Tobias Harris should be good for us.


It would be good but dealing with Morey is a pain in the ass...he Will want a first for him and I wouldn't give it
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Post#764 » by Archx » Wed Jan 3, 2024 10:56 am

Call me crazy but if Mavs can't do anything better i would trade Grant and Hardy for DFS/Dinwiddie and try to get back some defense and offense. It's not like these two are doing anything special with the Nets. Spencer in a backup role was much better than he is as a starter and DFS would be an instant upgrade over Grant.
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Post#765 » by Maverick41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 10:57 am

Archx wrote:Call me crazy but if Mavs can't do anything better i would trade Grant and Hardy for DFS/Dinwiddie and try to get back some defense and offense. It's not like these two are doing anything special with the Nets. Spencer in a backup role was much better than he is as a starter and DFS would be an instant upgrade over Grant.

Your certainly not crazy to want that. Nets would be crazy to accept that though.
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Post#766 » by BliscoSantos » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:13 am

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Archx wrote:Call me crazy but if Mavs can't do anything better i would trade Grant and Hardy for DFS/Dinwiddie and try to get back some defense and offense. It's not like these two are doing anything special with the Nets. Spencer in a backup role was much better than he is as a starter and DFS would be an instant upgrade over Grant.

Your certainly not crazy to want that. Nets would be crazy to accept that though.


Nets don't do this,also the salaries don't match...the thing this team needs the most(apart from a starting PF, backup C) is a new coach...Kidd is terrible, he's too buddy buddy with Players...this team needs a coach who's gonna make his Players accountable, call them out when they're doing dumb things(Luka,Timmy, I'm talking about you)...Thibs would rip Luka and Timmy ,the way they played against Utah
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Post#767 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:28 am

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Archx wrote:Call me crazy but if Mavs can't do anything better i would trade Grant and Hardy for DFS/Dinwiddie and try to get back some defense and offense. It's not like these two are doing anything special with the Nets. Spencer in a backup role was much better than he is as a starter and DFS would be an instant upgrade over Grant.

Your certainly not crazy to want that. Nets would be crazy to accept that though.

Exum > Dinwiddie...
Only thing he's (much) worse at, is pull up scoring, but his defense and stabilization of the offense is much better, pull up scoring is significant, but if Exum is paired with Kyrie/THJ it's really not that big of a deal.
DFS should come home though...
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Post#768 » by Archx » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:42 am

BliscoSantos wrote:the thing this team needs the most(apart from a starting PF, backup C) is a new coach..


Yep that's the most obvious thing for starters.

Mavrelous wrote:Exum > Dinwiddie...
Only thing he's (much) worse at, is pull up scoring, but his defense and stabilization of the offense is much better, pull up scoring is significant, but if Exum is paired with Kyrie/THJ it's really not that big of a deal.
DFS should come home though...


Since Exum is basically a starter now in a role which we all hoped Green would finally excel at this season, Dinwiddie as a backup leading the bench (instead of THJ), would be good imo. Spencer worked great behind Luka and Brunson in those playoffs. Exum just gives a lot of flexibility to Luka/Kyrie combo, so i don't see any problem. Plus it would give Kidd another option how to juggle Exum with various lineups along with Green (if he wakes up from his hybernation). DJJ has shown he can play 3 or 4 on offense and defense, so he can easily take Maxi's role while i can't see Grant actually having any role anymore on this team, he's more or less useless.

Problem would be if these guys have to guard stronger wings or centers, Lively can't do it on his own but ultimately that's on Nico to figure out.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#769 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:44 am

Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:the thing this team needs the most(apart from a starting PF, backup C) is a new coach..


Yep that's the most obvious thing for starters.

Mavrelous wrote:Exum > Dinwiddie...
Only thing he's (much) worse at, is pull up scoring, but his defense and stabilization of the offense is much better, pull up scoring is significant, but if Exum is paired with Kyrie/THJ it's really not that big of a deal.
DFS should come home though...


Since Exum is basically a starter now in a role which we all hoped Green would finally excel at this season, Dinwiddie as a backup leading the bench (instead of THJ), would be good imo. Spencer worked great behind Luka and Brunson in those playoffs. Exum just gives a lot of flexibility to Luka/Kyrie combo, so i don't see any problem. Plus it would give Kidd another option how to juggle Exum with various lineups along with Green (if he wakes up from his hybernation). DJJ has shown he can play 3 or 4 on offense and defense, so he can easily take Maxi's role while i can't see Grant actually having any role anymore on this team, he's more or less useless.

Problem would be if these guys have to guard stronger wings or centers, Lively can't do it on his own but ultimately that's on Nico to figure out.


If DFS is back, Exum goes back to the bench, Kyrie/Luka for offense (DJJ or Green)/DFS/Lively for defense and spacing.
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Post#770 » by Maverick41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:47 am

I only like getting back Dinwiddie for cheap if Kyrie is traded. Luka/Exum/Dinwiddie 3 guard line up can work.

If we get Dinwiddie with Kyrie on the other hand......you just know Kidd won't be able to resist Kyrie/Dinwiddie/Exum/THJ 4 guard lineups. RIP defense.
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Post#771 » by Archx » Wed Jan 3, 2024 11:48 am

Mavrelous wrote:If DFS is back, Exum goes back to the bench, Kyrie/Luka for offense (DJJ or Green)/DFS/Lively for defense and spacing.


That would be a much deeper and flexible team than it is now. Too good to be true :D

Maverick41 wrote:you just know Kidd won't be able to resist Kyrie/Dinwiddie/Exum/THJ 4 guard lineups. RIP defense.


:lol: :lol: You're right. Scary seeing THJ in any lineup with little to no rebounding and paint protection.
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Post#772 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jan 3, 2024 12:00 pm

For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...
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Post#773 » by Maverick41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 1:07 pm

Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...

OKC can probably get almost anyone they want if they really want to. Their assets and draft capital is just ridiculous.

Such a scary team moving forward. And a great coach too.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#774 » by dirkules_41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 1:30 pm

Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...

Thank god, why anyone would trade a 1st for a 31yo (in May) who is a low impact player, decent but not stellar defender, poor rebounder and streaky, not high efficiency (except this year from 3) shooter and was all around disappointing in his last season is beyond me. For a couple of low 2nds maybe but for a first is a preposterous waste of assets. This makes about as much sense as extending Dwight Powell for being a nice guy and hustling. Being a nice human and hustle player shouldn't warrant trading 1sts.
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Post#775 » by dirkforpres » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:09 pm

Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...


Thats an overpay, but I guess OKC has the luxury to overpay for anyone at any time.

Mavs shouldnt be offering FRPs to any non all-star type players
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Post#776 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 3:47 pm

Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...


I don't think they will pay a FRP for a bench player... They are young and stucked in all positions, probably their next move will be for a superstar and try to contend.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#777 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jan 3, 2024 4:43 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...


I don't think they will pay a FRP for a bench player... They are young and stucked in all positions, probably their next move will be for a superstar and try to contend.


I don't think they care, if they decide he fits, they can throw protected UTA pick that they have and call it a day...
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Post#778 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 8:04 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:For the record, I think OKC will trade Bertans/1st for DFS by the deadline, make too much sense for them, and Mavs don't have a 1st to trade for DFS...


I don't think they will pay a FRP for a bench player... They are young and stucked in all positions, probably their next move will be for a superstar and try to contend.


I don't think they care, if they decide he fits, they can throw protected UTA pick that they have and call it a day...


Yes of course but it would be a terrible move.

I think DFS is pushing to come back and probably if no teams will offers a decent trade to Nets they trade him to us for a couple of SRPs.

Him+backup C is not an home run but 2 solid adds and a real scenario.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#779 » by tleikheen » Wed Jan 3, 2024 10:07 pm

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If DFS is back, Exum goes back to the bench, Kyrie/Luka for offense (DJJ or Green)/DFS/Lively for defense and spacing.


That would be a much deeper and flexible team than it is now. Too good to be true :D


Dante Exum has an offensive rating of 131.9 this season.
Dante Exum has a defensive rating of 118.1 this season.
Dorian Finney-Smith has a 122.5 offensive rating this season.
Dorian Finney-Smith has a defensive rating of 119.9 this season.

Lets remember Exum picks up defensively full court and I have no understanding why guys want him on the bench ,its like your a big fan of the other teams .
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Post#780 » by tleikheen » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:39 am

Its probably too late to make a trade for Bol Bol now ,It took almost 30 games before Vogel gave Bol Bol any meaningful minutes and the 1st game he gives Bol Bol some minutes he gets 11 pts/9 rebs in 20 minutes and next game 14 pts/ 5 rebs in19 minutes .Shooting 10/13 fg & 3/4 (3s).
Bol Bol would have been a great addition with 3 guards like Luka,Kyrie and Exum passing him the ball.

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