Trade Discussion 22/23

ACMFFL · Post #7881 » by **ACMFFL** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:18 am

I can see them take it if they actually want to go after Dame.
BRK: Lillard
DAL: Claxton + DFS
POR: Simmons + Bertans + #10 + Green + some of the BRK picks

Mike lorenzo · Post #7882 » by **Mike lorenzo** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:38 am

ACMFFL wrote:I can see them take it if they actually want to go after Dame.
BRK: Lillard
DAL: Claxton + DFS
POR: Simmons + Bertans + #10 + Green + some of the BRK picks

Sign me up... I can't think of a better fit for this team than Claxton... I would prefer to keep Green, (plus I think we can't legally trade for DFS until after the Draft). I wonder what the Bulls would think of Bullock+Mavs 27 for P.Williams.... a young and closed core of Luka/Hardy/Green/P.Will/Claxton would be quite encouraging... I'd also be interested in Okeke 6'8 230lbs buried in Magic's rotation..if a couple of SRP's are what it takes

Post #7883 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:03 am

ACMFFL wrote:I can see them take it if they actually want to go after Dame.
BRK: Lillard
DAL: Claxton + DFS
POR: Simmons + Bertans + #10 + Green + some of the BRK picks

I like it for all involved, Claxton and DFS were great defensive duo for Brooklyn, but Brooklyn as a team simply couldn't score.

daoneandonly · Post #7884 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:17 am

What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Post #7885 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:53 pm

daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

daoneandonly · Post #7886 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:55 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

Is that worth a cost controlled lottery pick though? He's due a new contract and he's not a big body like Capela or game changing defender like Turner. I'd trade Green for him sure, but not this year's pick or a future one.

Post #7887 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:57 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

Is that worth a cost controlled lottery pick though? He's due a new contract and he's not a big body like Capela or game changing defender like Turner. I'd trade Green for him sure, but not this year's pick or a future one.

He's definitely worth a lottery pick IMO, same as OG, defensive specialists with decent offensive games, you trade the pick for their bird rights.

daoneandonly · Post #7888 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:07 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

Is that worth a cost controlled lottery pick though? He's due a new contract and he's not a big body like Capela or game changing defender like Turner. I'd trade Green for him sure, but not this year's pick or a future one.

He's definitely worth a lottery pick IMO, same as OG, defensive specialists with decent offensive games, you trade the pick for their bird rights.

Og, absolutley, a wing defender of his caliber are hard to find. Claxton is better than Noel no doubt, but is he much much better? I dont know. And no one is giving up a lottery pick for Nerlens

Post #7889 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:27 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Is that worth a cost controlled lottery pick though? He's due a new contract and he's not a big body like Capela or game changing defender like Turner. I'd trade Green for him sure, but not this year's pick or a future one.

He's definitely worth a lottery pick IMO, same as OG, defensive specialists with decent offensive games, you trade the pick for their bird rights.

Og, absolutley, a wing defender of his caliber are hard to find. Claxton is better than Noel no doubt, but is he much much better? I dont know. And no one is giving up a lottery pick for Nerlens

Claxton is much better on the perimeter than Noel, which makes mismatch hunting much harder, if you get a chance, watch Nets games with DFS/Claxton at 4/5, they are terror at rim defense, but they are inept offensively, Claxton is exclusively rim runner, and DFS catch and shoot player, and need elite scorer/creators next to them, which the Mavs have.

41Dirk41 · Post #7890 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:33 pm

daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

daoneandonly · Post #7891 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:09 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

Michaellam1987 · Post #7892 » by **Michaellam1987** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:26 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

We should go for option like Turner/OG, who are more 2 way players than players like Claxton/Capela

41Dirk41 · Post #7893 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:49 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

That's absolutely true, but do you think Nico&Cuban can draft someone better than Claxton with the #10 pick? Mmmmhhhhhhh

If we can flip the pick for a better player could be great of course...

41Dirk41 · Post #7894 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:50 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

We should go for option like Turner/OG, who are more 2 way players than players like Claxton/Capela

Toronto asked 3FRPs for OG... And another couple for Turner. I don't think we have the assets for them :banghead:

Mr B · Post #7895 » by **Mr B** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:00 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

With Atlanta looking to re-tool and get younger would they possibly be interested in #10/Green/Bertans for Capela/Collins? Not sure if that would even work cap wise.

Mr B · Post #7896 » by **Mr B** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:07 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

Or what if Cleveland gets bounced in round 1 (highly likely). Is there a chance make Jarrett Allen available? Could he be had for #10?

41Dirk41 · Post #7897 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:32 pm

Mr B wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
What? Nets were 27-13 with Irving/KD/Claxton then KD went out. Nearly 70%. They were a contender.

I don't know if he worths a lottery pick but he is very good and in the same age of Luka.

Sadly they have much better role players than we do. O'Neale, our once beloved Curry, Mills, other Cam, heck even Ben, those guys are better than the cluster fest our FO put together. So while Clax deserves some of that credit, i still say a top 10 pick is too much for him

Or what if Cleveland gets bounced in round 1 (highly likely). Is there a chance make Jarrett Allen available? Could he be had for #10?

Jarrett Allen is nuts 8-)

Archx · Post #7898 » by **Archx** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:49 pm

Mr B wrote:With Atlanta looking to re-tool and get younger would they possibly be interested in #10/Green/Bertans for Capela/Collins? Not sure if that would even work cap wise.

Still need to find roughly 26M more from Mavs to match.

Mr B · Post #7899 » by **Mr B** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:29 pm

Archx wrote:
Mr B wrote:With Atlanta looking to re-tool and get younger would they possibly be interested in #10/Green/Bertans for Capela/Collins? Not sure if that would even work cap wise.

Still need to find roughly 26M more from Mavs to match.

A third team would likely have to be involved. I would be ok removing Collins from the trade but don’t really want to give up #10 just for Capela.

Teffer10 · Post #7900 » by **Teffer10** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:06 am

Mr B wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:What's with the love affair with Claxton? He played with Kyrie and KD and that team wasnt exactly setting records or lighting it up. He's solid, but not worth a top 10 pick and certainly not worth multiple picks

Very switchable and good shot blocker, but he struggles against physical center.

With Atlanta looking to re-tool and get younger would they possibly be interested in #10/Green/Bertans for Capela/Collins? Not sure if that would even work cap wise.

Man, I don't know about trading one of our best defenders for that pair.
I'd definitely offer up THJ/Bertans/#10 and maybe a future pick, but honestly I don't see the Mavs making that move and Atlanta probably says no.

Luka/Wright/
Kyrie/Hardy/Frank
Green/Holiday/Lawson
Collins/Maxi
Capela/McGee

Could definitely compete, but still would struggle defensively.