Harrison Barnes

[PerkinsFor3]

I dont believe Justin Anderson is much behind Barnes in terms of talent. Yet, someone thought it was fun to pony up 90+ mil for Barnes. Meanwhile, there's no young talent @ PG, SG or C.

[Hadley]

Could be worse! We could have paid Mozgov 64M!

[Mr B]

I dont believe Justin Anderson is much behind Barnes in terms of talent. Yet, someone thought it was fun to pony up 90+ mil for Barnes. Meanwhile, there's no young talent @ PG, SG or C.

Give them time, they're still working on it. Both Bugut and DWill will be trade assets at the trade deadline. That's when they get their young PG/SG or a draft pick to help them those young guys.

[Suka Bongcic]

Anderson isn't just a SF. He's a wing. Sg, SF. Barnes is a SF, Sg. Both are very versatile defenders. Carlisles emphasis is on D. Both fit perfectly. The nba today is all about switching and creating mismatches. Both players defend multiple positions. If Matthews can return to form, that's a nice trio of wings that can defend and shoot. Just need a PG that can get to the lane regularly to get the ball rotation moving. Bogut is a difference make in the paint defensively, although it may only be for a year.

What you get with Barnes: a hard working kid that has the ability to defend 1-5 when caught in a switch. Good shooter when he's on. Awful shooter when he's not. Needs to work on his handle. Has good footwork and post moves. Can be extremely frustrating finishing at the rim when he's not dunking. Above average ft shooter. Decent mid range shooter. Other than his debacle games 5,6,7 of the finals this season, has been clutch and has no problem converting the dagger shots. Will he rebound mentally from his finals performance? That's the biggest question. One thing is certain. Dallas signed a great person for the community that will work his tail off to improve his craft.

He's not a superstar and not worth a max deal. If you expect a superstar, you WILL be disappointed. This free agent period is unlike others and teams that aren't immediate contenders for the finals will overpay for everyone. So keep an open mind and try to enjoy the teams progression going forward. There will be bumps in the road and likely won't be title contenders in the near future, but drafting the right guys in the coming years while developing the current crop properly, there could be some fun moments along the way.

[Teffer10]

Anderson isn't just a SF. He's a wing. Sg, SF. Barnes is a SF, Sg. Both are very versatile defenders. Carlisles emphasis is on D. Both fit perfectly. The nba today is all about switching and creating mismatches. Both players defend multiple positions. If Matthews can return to form, that's a nice trio of wings that can defend and shoot. Just need a PG that can get to the lane regularly to get the ball rotation moving. Bogut is a difference make in the paint defensively, although it may only be for a year.

What you get with Barnes: a hard working kid that has the ability to defend 1-5 when caught in a switch. Good shooter when he's on. Awful shooter when he's not. Needs to work on his handle. Has good footwork and post moves. Can be extremely frustrating finishing at the rim when he's not dunking. Above average ft shooter. Decent mid range shooter. Other than his debacle games 5,6,7 of the finals this season, has been clutch and has no problem converting the dagger shots. Will he rebound mentally from his finals performance? That's the biggest question. One thing is certain. Dallas signed a great person for the community that will work his tail off to improve his craft.

He's not a superstar and not worth a max deal. If you expect a superstar, you WILL be disappointed. This free agent period is unlike others and teams that aren't immediate contenders for the finals will overpay for everyone. So keep an open mind and try to enjoy the teams progression going forward. There will be bumps in the road and likely won't be title contenders in the near future, but drafting the right guys in the coming years while developing the current crop properly, there could be some fun moments along the way.

Sounds a lot like Marion.
Can he play the 4?
I'm a little concerned about Dirk's backup situation. Parsons could fill in at the 4 when Wes moved to the 3 or Anderson came in. Seems we have a void there now and I'm not confident Powell will fill that role well. At 9+mil per season he better find a way and RC better give him an opportunity.

[2011Champs]

I do think Harrison Barnes will be much like The Matrix with slightly lower rebounding numbers

[fuller4379]

I prefer Barnes to Parsons. Barnes is not the hole at defense that Parsons was. Barnes isn't damaged goods like Parsons. I prefer Parsons on offense, but his deficiencies on defense outweighs his offensive talent. Overall, the Mavs have made this offseason a net positive by picking up a young, talented player in place of damaged goods.

[Texas Chuck]

I dont believe Justin Anderson is much behind Barnes in terms of talent. Yet, someone thought it was fun to pony up 90+ mil for Barnes. Meanwhile, there's no young talent @ PG, SG or C.

Barnes will probably play at least half his minutes at PF. He won't be holding back Anderson from anything. If Justin earns them there will be 30 minutes for him every single night.

But he will need to be better if he wants them. He was lost a bunch at both ends last year.

[Darren]

I dont believe Justin Anderson is much behind Barnes in terms of talent. Yet, someone thought it was fun to pony up 90+ mil for Barnes. Meanwhile, there's no young talent @ PG, SG or C.

Barnes will probably play at least half his minutes at PF. He won't be holding back Anderson from anything. If Justin earns them there will be 30 minutes for him every single night.

But he will need to be better if he wants them. He was lost a bunch at both ends last year.

If it is the case, I expect Matthews and Barea on the move by deadline for expirings and picks.

[Suka Bongcic]

Anderson isn't just a SF. He's a wing. Sg, SF. Barnes is a SF, Sg. Both are very versatile defenders. Carlisles emphasis is on D. Both fit perfectly. The nba today is all about switching and creating mismatches. Both players defend multiple positions. If Matthews can return to form, that's a nice trio of wings that can defend and shoot. Just need a PG that can get to the lane regularly to get the ball rotation moving. Bogut is a difference make in the paint defensively, although it may only be for a year.

What you get with Barnes: a hard working kid that has the ability to defend 1-5 when caught in a switch. Good shooter when he's on. Awful shooter when he's not. Needs to work on his handle. Has good footwork and post moves. Can be extremely frustrating finishing at the rim when he's not dunking. Above average ft shooter. Decent mid range shooter. Other than his debacle games 5,6,7 of the finals this season, has been clutch and has no problem converting the dagger shots. Will he rebound mentally from his finals performance? That's the biggest question. One thing is certain. Dallas signed a great person for the community that will work his tail off to improve his craft.

He's not a superstar and not worth a max deal. If you expect a superstar, you WILL be disappointed. This free agent period is unlike others and teams that aren't immediate contenders for the finals will overpay for everyone. So keep an open mind and try to enjoy the teams progression going forward. There will be bumps in the road and likely won't be title contenders in the near future, but drafting the right guys in the coming years while developing the current crop properly, there could be some fun moments along the way.

Sounds a lot like Marion.
Can he play the 4?
I'm a little concerned about Dirk's backup situation. Parsons could fill in at the 4 when Wes moved to the 3 or Anderson came in. Seems we have a void there now and I'm not confident Powell will fill that role well. At 9+mil per season he better find a way and RC better give him an opportunity.

He played the 4 when the Warriors went small ball death squad. He's not a very good rebounder though. He plays a good stretch 4 and creates mismatches. He can defend the traditional low post 4 and most traditional low post 4s have trouble defending him. If he can improve his handle, he can be a nightmare at the 4. But that's to be determined. He's been working on it for his career and hasn't improved very much. He has relatively small hands, which you'll see.

Marion seems like a decent comparison minus Marion's rebounding prowess and the addition of Barnes' inconsistencies

[Teffer10]

I dont believe Justin Anderson is much behind Barnes in terms of talent. Yet, someone thought it was fun to pony up 90+ mil for Barnes. Meanwhile, there's no young talent @ PG, SG or C.

Barnes will probably play at least half his minutes at PF. He won't be holding back Anderson from anything. If Justin earns them there will be 30 minutes for him every single night.

And to think we could have had a very similar player last season for about 1/4 the price....Aminu. Damn I hated that we let him go last season and now it even hurts more. I'm sure Barnes is a lot better but I doubt he is 3 or 4 times better.

I know.....spilled milk

[k-lynch201]

Im pretty sure that aside from the fact Barnes is still only 24 and in his prime..we need to add a big contract to fill the salary cap minimum of 84mil.

[Texas Chuck]

Im pretty sure that aside from the fact Barnes is still only 24 and in his prime..we need to add a big contract to fill the salary cap minimum of 84mil.

Nope. With Barnes, Bogut, and the raises to Powell and DWill we have roughly $10M in cap space and its all going to Dirk. So we will spend exactly to the cap and then add min contract guys and possibly use the Room Exception as well. But we will end up a few million over the cap and don't have to worry about the floor.

[daoneandonly]

Way overpaid but i get it no other options. Honestly I'm more upset about D Will for 10 million even at one year, he'll play 50 games and only have a positive impact on half of the. Now that Parsons is gone, Williams is the Mav I dislike most.

Much eather make a trade for MCW or someone young, without giving up Anderson of course.

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[k-lynch201]

Im pretty sure that aside from the fact Barnes is still only 24 and in his prime..we need to add a big contract to fill the salary cap minimum of 84mil.

Nope. With Barnes, Bogut, and the raises to Powell and DWill we have roughly $10M in cap space and its all going to Dirk. So we will spend exactly to the cap and then add min contract guys and possibly use the Room Exception as well. But we will end up a few million over the cap and don't have to worry about the floor.

This team needs more than just mimimum contracts, if they want to be a 5-8 seed.

I understand were keeping flexibility for next summer, as usual, and that always works out great...

And what about Anderson now? Is he trade bait? How does he show his trade worth if Barnes is taking his starting role. Im assuming we plan on a good amount of small ball lineups, which is fine as thats the way the league is heading.

[Mr B]

Way overpaid but i get it no other options. Honestly I'm more upset about D Will for 10 million even at one year, he'll play 50 games and only have a positive impact on half of the. Now that Parsons is gone, Williams is the Mav I dislike most.

Much eather make a trade for MCW or someone young, without giving up Anderson of course.

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DWill will be a trade asset at the trade deadline, just like Bogut. Even if the keep DWill and Bogut that's what $21 mil coming off the books next off season.

[Mr B]

Im pretty sure that aside from the fact Barnes is still only 24 and in his prime..we need to add a big contract to fill the salary cap minimum of 84mil.

Nope. With Barnes, Bogut, and the raises to Powell and DWill we have roughly $10M in cap space and its all going to Dirk. So we will spend exactly to the cap and then add min contract guys and possibly use the Room Exception as well. But we will end up a few million over the cap and don't have to worry about the floor.

This team needs more than just mimimum contracts, if they want to be a 5-8 seed.

I understand were keeping flexibility for next summer, as usual, and that always works out great...

And what about Anderson now? Is he trade bait? How does he show his trade worth if Barnes is taking his starting role. Im assuming we plan on a good amount of small ball lineups, which is fine as thats the way the league is heading.

Anderson will be going into his second season and as stated above could still earn about 30 min a game.

[Texas Chuck]

And what about Anderson now? Is he trade bait? How does he show his trade worth if Barnes is taking his starting role. Im assuming we plan on a good amount of small ball lineups, which is fine as thats the way the league is heading.

Plenty of minutes for both guys if Anderson proves he is ready for the minutes. Barnes likely is Dirk's primary backup at the 4 leaving 30 minutes or more at the 3 for Anderson, others. Justin Anderson as a starter is a borderline disaster unless he takes major steps. He's not ready for that--or certainly wasn't last year. But Anderson as a regular rotation guy? Yeah I think we can hope for that.

Right now the rotation looks like this imo:

Bogut/Salah/Powell/Dirk -- yes I think all 4 of these guys will regularly get minutes at center
Dirk/Barnes/Powell -- a bit hopeful Powell shoots it well enough to play some 4. I think that would be ideal.
Barnes/Anderson
Matthews/Harris
DWill/Barea

And I'd imagine we look to target another wing still in free agency. Kevin Martin is kinda who I expect if the market is soft enough for him, but also think guys like Gerald Green or Randy Foye.

[Texas Chuck]

Way overpaid but i get it no other options. Honestly I'm more upset about D Will for 10 million even at one year, he'll play 50 games and only have a positive impact on half of the. Now that Parsons is gone, Williams is the Mav I dislike most.

Much eather make a trade for MCW or someone young, without giving up Anderson of course.

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DWill will be a trade asset at the trade deadline, just like Bogut. Even if the keep DWill and Bogut that's what $21 mil coming off the books next off season.

Yeah I hope that if Dallas isn't looking like a lock to make the playoffs and those guys are healthy that we look to flip them for some value to a team with a need at the deadline.

[Mr B]

Way overpaid but i get it no other options. Honestly I'm more upset about D Will for 10 million even at one year, he'll play 50 games and only have a positive impact on half of the. Now that Parsons is gone, Williams is the Mav I dislike most.

Much eather make a trade for MCW or someone young, without giving up Anderson of course.

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DWill will be a trade asset at the trade deadline, just like Bogut. Even if the keep DWill and Bogut that's what $21 mil coming off the books next off season.

Yeah I hope that if Dallas isn't looking like a lock to make the playoffs and those guys are healthy that we look to flip them for some value to a team with a need at the deadline.

Exactly. Both have playoff experience and quality starters at the two most important positions. I could easily see a scenarios where the Mavs end up being the key player in a 3 team trade that nets them multiple young prospects (sitting at the end of a playoff teams bench) and draft picks.