RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Bucks (9PM EST)

[Pinkyring]

This isn't a luka vs kp shot selection discussion I've stated kp takes bad shots as well, this is solely about dispute their games fitting like a glove they don't, there's an obvious disconnect that needs to be fixed and with luka being the primary ball handler and "leader" the onus is on him to fix it.

Yeah, we're all aware of that, even Luka and KP are. But you're all over the place with what you're saying. From calling Luka selfish, to taking too many shots and not making anyone involved etc...etc. It's like you just started watching Mavs 3 games ago. I just roughly showed you what kind of carry job Doncic was doing before recently. And for 3 straight seasons you wanted to trade KP, now you want him to be the nr1 guy or what?

Show me where i said luka takes too many shots, he doesn't involve anyone or kp should be the no1 option? I stated luka is selfish and at times he is, trying to dribble through double teams instead of passing out is selfish, the **** he did against Houston jacking up ridiculous shots late to choke the game away was also selfish, i did also say maybe he plays this style because we don't have a second creator. This isn't a bash luka fest this is simply his style of play at this time is not conducive to success.

[Bob8]

Just because his efficiency is good doesn't mean he doesn't take bad shots, is that seriously your argument? Anybody who watches this team knows he takes 4 or 5 bad shots a night, he might make 1 but that doesn't negate the obvious. Add the 2 or 3 boneheaded turnovers and that's 6-8 bad possessions a night, doesn't matter a lot in the rs but come playoff time it does.

Every top player takes X number of shots per game. If you're sitting at almost 50 FG%, then you're allowed to take some tough shots, specially if you're the Nr1 option.

Its obvious porzingis doesn't enjoy playing with luka and i can see why and why no supporting star would, he's selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot, forces **** and tries to make the spectacular play instead of the simple one, there are multiple pnrs a game between the two where kp is wide open and luka will either keep dribbling or wait til the double team leaves to go one on one instead of just feeding kp asap

This is Luka for the season, now find me any other Mavs player. Or do you want Mavs to trade everyone and build around Jrich and KP or what?

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Calling Luka selfish is statistically and objectively wrong on so many levels. It's Rick's offensive scheme that allows Luka to do what he does. But it is also KP's job to get himself in to a better shot. You really think Doncic will look for him when he's standing at the logo??? How many times did he signal his teammates to swing the ball around when KP was trying to position himself in the paint? Spoiler alert! Every single time! And take a guess who makes the most entry passes to KP when he tries to go 1v1 close to the basket? Luka is not stupid, he won't look for KP so that he could shoot 15 3's per game. And at the end of the day, this ain't KP's team so i don't know why this is so hard to understand.

KP is 7'3 and has taken 537 total shots so far. Out of those 206 came from 3pt line. Are you kidding me?

This isn't a luka vs kp shot selection discussion I've stated kp takes bad shots as well, this is solely about dispute their games fitting like a glove they don't, there's an obvious disconnect that needs to be fixed and with luka being the primary ball handler and "leader" the onus is on him to fix it.

It's much more simple. KP should start playing good D or he should be traded. Luka cannot do wonders in offense with 7'3 C, who wants to play SF, he's not enough mobile for that. Luka for sure can feed him with those long 3s or Isos, but that won't help Mavs much. But if he starts to play like real rim protector, his value for Mavs increases a lot.

[Bob8]

This isn't a luka vs kp shot selection discussion I've stated kp takes bad shots as well, this is solely about dispute their games fitting like a glove they don't, there's an obvious disconnect that needs to be fixed and with luka being the primary ball handler and "leader" the onus is on him to fix it.

Yeah, we're all aware of that, even Luka and KP are. But you're all over the place with what you're saying. From calling Luka selfish, to taking too many shots and not making anyone involved etc...etc. It's like you just started watching Mavs 3 games ago. I just roughly showed you what kind of carry job Doncic was doing before recently. And for 3 straight seasons you wanted to trade KP, now you want him to be the nr1 guy or what?

Show me where i said luka takes too many shots, he doesn't involve anyone or kp should be the no1 option? I stated luka is selfish and at times he is, trying to dribble through double teams instead of passing out is selfish, the **** he did against Houston jacking up ridiculous shots late to choke the game away was also selfish, i did also say maybe he plays this style because we don't have a second creator. This isn't a bash luka fest this is simply his style of play at this time is not conducive to success.

Yes he had bad game in Houston and he should be blamed for a loss. But they're still 28/18 with him, meaning his way of playing normally brings success.

[Speadge]

Yeah, we're all aware of that, even Luka and KP are. But you're all over the place with what you're saying. From calling Luka selfish, to taking too many shots and not making anyone involved etc...etc. It's like you just started watching Mavs 3 games ago. I just roughly showed you what kind of carry job Doncic was doing before recently. And for 3 straight seasons you wanted to trade KP, now you want him to be the nr1 guy or what?

Show me where i said luka takes too many shots, he doesn't involve anyone or kp should be the no1 option? I stated luka is selfish and at times he is, trying to dribble through double teams instead of passing out is selfish, the **** he did against Houston jacking up ridiculous shots late to choke the game away was also selfish, i did also say maybe he plays this style because we don't have a second creator. This isn't a bash luka fest this is simply his style of play at this time is not conducive to success.

Yes he had bad game in Houston and he should be blamed for a loss. But they're still 28/18 with him, meaning his way of playing normally brings success.

Well, we came from "Luka being selfish and doesn't take good shots a lot and no supporting star would enjoy playing with him" to just "he's selfish at times", based on a few games he could play better than he did, so that's okay now, I guess

[fuller4379]

Milwaukee threw us a bone by setting Giannis Antetokounmpo. We needed that win. I bet KP would not have played if Dallas beat Houston, but it was good to see him playing the second night of a back-to-back.


All this Luka criticism is nuts. The Mavs would be a a bottom five team without him.

[Apz]

Dint think resting giannis was throwing a bone. Feels like we got no problem when giannis plays

[Mavrelous]

SAS, Griz, Ws and Lakers lost.
7th seed is getting closer to clinching and 5th seed attainable eith some luck.