Off-Season 2022 - the Jalen Brunson sweepstakes

[arkuo]

As much as i like Brunson i believe this would be the best for the team. Mavs are locked with their cap for the next 3 or 4 years and the best short term solution would be to get a great big guy for him. With THJ coming back and Dinwiddie proving that he could at least lead the bench, moving Brunson for a guy like Turner or even Gobert would be ideal.

But we know that Cuban won't do that because they keep saying how they want to retain him, so i guess we have to look elsewhere. The most realistic scenario in my opinion would be moving THJ/Powell/Bertans + whatever picks they have left... for someone.

If Brunson stays, which I think is likely, then let's hope Dinwiddie made enough noise to raise his value a bit. Maybe he can be packaged for a quality big man or a quality wing. Ideally another wing that can create his own shot and not wait for kick outs like Bullock or DFS. It's been doing wonders in Boston with Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. Both 6'7 and 6'8 and can create their own shot.

You're right i haven't even thought about that. Dinwiddie could possibly be another trading asset, he did raise his value a lot in the playoffs. I am more worried about Bertans though. I said before that he'll need to have strong showing but he was kinda dissapointing.

It will be interesting to follow how much Cuban values players who get along together very well. Luka said it's good for the team that they are growing up together and i wonder if this will kinda hinder FO to trade certain players. And we all know by now how much Dinwiddie loves playing with these guys and apparently likes Dallas aswell.

Yeah. Nico split the KP contract into two. Which is the first step. Next step is he needs to turn one (if not both) of those into an asset. Right now Dinwiddie has some value as he made some noise in the regular season and in thr PHX series. Bertans has pretty much negative value right now.

[Archx]

If Brunson stays, which I think is likely, then let's hope Dinwiddie made enough noise to raise his value a bit. Maybe he can be packaged for a quality big man or a quality wing. Ideally another wing that can create his own shot and not wait for kick outs like Bullock or DFS. It's been doing wonders in Boston with Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. Both 6'7 and 6'8 and can create their own shot.

You're right i haven't even thought about that. Dinwiddie could possibly be another trading asset, he did raise his value a lot in the playoffs. I am more worried about Bertans though. I said before that he'll need to have strong showing but he was kinda dissapointing.

It will be interesting to follow how much Cuban values players who get along together very well. Luka said it's good for the team that they are growing up together and i wonder if this will kinda hinder FO to trade certain players. And we all know by now how much Dinwiddie loves playing with these guys and apparently likes Dallas aswell.

Yeah. Nico split the KP contract into two. Which is the first step. Next step is he needs to turn one (if not both) of those into an asset. Right now Dinwiddie has some value as he made some noise in the regular season and in thr PHX series. Bertans has pretty much negative value right now.

I was just reading Mavs article about Nico and Mark both talking how they'll go after a center AFTER they re-sign Brunson. The author suggest Mitch Robinson or Mo Bamba would be the targets that FO should or will go after. I actually like Mitch but he's had some injury issues. I still have PTSD from KP when it comes to that And i'm honestly not sure about Bamba. He's very tall and could knock down 3's but Mitch to me feels like a good defender and rebounder.

Author did also say that moving Bertans will be hard due to his bad play, so i don't know what kind of trades they can make. It's almost certain at this point that picks will be involved.

[arkuo]

You're right i haven't even thought about that. Dinwiddie could possibly be another trading asset, he did raise his value a lot in the playoffs. I am more worried about Bertans though. I said before that he'll need to have strong showing but he was kinda dissapointing.

It will be interesting to follow how much Cuban values players who get along together very well. Luka said it's good for the team that they are growing up together and i wonder if this will kinda hinder FO to trade certain players. And we all know by now how much Dinwiddie loves playing with these guys and apparently likes Dallas aswell.

Yeah. Nico split the KP contract into two. Which is the first step. Next step is he needs to turn one (if not both) of those into an asset. Right now Dinwiddie has some value as he made some noise in the regular season and in thr PHX series. Bertans has pretty much negative value right now.

I was just reading Mavs article about Nico and Mark both talking how they'll go after a center AFTER they re-sign Brunson. The author suggest Mitch Robinson or Mo Bamba would be the targets that FO should or will go after. I actually like Mitch but he's had some injury issues. I still have PTSD from KP when it comes to that And i'm honestly not sure about Bamba. He's very tall and could knock down 3's but Mitch to me feels like a good defender and rebounder.

Author did also say that moving Bertans will be hard due to his bad play, so i don't know what kind of trades they can make. It's almost certain at this point that picks will be involved.

The less complicated choice is Mitchell Robinson because he is UFA. Although he might be looking for a bigger pay day than the Mavs can offer.

Bamba is RFA so a smaller offer means Orlando can match with Disney money. Which they make a ton of. Just my gut feel, but $6M for Bamba might be an easy match for Orlando. It has to be north of $10M for them to back off IMO.

[fuller4379]

The less complicated choice is Mitchell Robinson because he is UFA. Although he might be looking for a bigger pay day than the Mavs can offer.

Bamba is RFA so a smaller offer means Orlando can match with Disney money. Which they make a ton of. Just my gut feel, but $6M for Bamba might be an easy match for Orlando. It has to be north of $10M for them to back off IMO.

Since Bamba is a RFA, the Mavs might have to send back an asset if they want him. The Mavs are not big on the draft, and I could see them sending a future 1st round draft choice.

[Mavrelous]

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I think this removes Kicks from the pool of teams pursuing Brunson (the son that is).

[ejs78]

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I think this removes Kicks from the pool of teams pursuing Brunson (the son that is).

Why would it remove them?

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[Mavrelous]

No way he coaches his son.

[arkuo]

Interesting move by the Knicks. Since they do not have cap space, it needs to be via sign and trade. Cuban's stubborness and ego won't allow it. Maybe a compromise can be had. We'll see in a month after the NBA finals.

[arkuo]

There is nothing attractive from the knicks right now outside of RJ Barrett. Which the Knicks wont send out understandably. I dont know if a S&T would work with thr remaining pieces as the impact those would give would be lesser than Brunson contributions on court. Might as well sign Brunson to a large contract then trade him down the road. Most logical thing to do now.

[BeiBeau]

I like Robinson quite a bit. If JB really want to go to New York I'd take Robinson

[LAL1947]

Interesting move by the Knicks. Since they do not have cap space, it needs to be via sign and trade. Cuban's stubborness and ego won't allow it. Maybe a compromise can be had. We'll see in a month after the NBA finals.

It's a nice opportunity to try and get assets back for him.

I'd ask for Grimes or Quickley + Jericho Sims + Dallas 2023 pick + filler

Brunson / D Rose
Fournier / Quickley
Barrett / Reddish
Randle / Toppin
Robinson / Gibson / Noel

This isn't the final roster below... just listing out what you will have.

Luka / Dinwiddie / Burke
THJ / Grimes / Green
DFS / Bullock / Brown
Kleber / Bertans / Chriss
Powell / Sims / Bobito

[arkuo]

Interesting choice. I wonder if the Knicks will trade Kemba Walker + 11th pick for Jalen Brunson signed and traded.

There are a lot of possibilities with #11. And getting a pseudo lotto pick, Dallas can get a possible "2nd star" for Luka.

[arkuo]

Yeah come to think of it, I'd trade Brunson to the Knicks for their 11th pick in the draft. They pick for us in this case then they trade his rights for Brunson when its allowed by thr CBA.

There are a lot of good 6'6 to 6'7 wings in the latter part of the top 10. All seem to have defensive potential. If thr Knicks dont want a bidding war, they can pick for us and trade it for Brunson after the actual draft. Win-win for both teams IMO. Knicks and Rick Brunson get their point guard, Jalen gets his big contract, Dallas gets to find a possible Jaylen Brown clone in the draft.

[LAL1947]

Interesting choice. I wonder if the Knicks will trade Kemba Walker + 11th pick for Jalen Brunson signed and traded.

There are a lot of possibilities with #11. And getting a pseudo lotto pick, Dallas can get a possible "2nd star" for Luka.

Well, I didn't think Knicks would be willing to give up #11... but perhaps they might if Kemba is attached to it. Dallas should explore every possibility.

[41Dirk41]

I like Robinson quite a bit. If JB really want to go to New York I'd take Robinson

Brunson has 10x Robinson value.

[BeiBeau]

I like Robinson quite a bit. If JB really want to go to New York I'd take Robinson

Brunson has 10x Robinson value.

Yeah but JB is a UFA. JB is the one who holds the cards.

[41Dirk41]

I like Robinson quite a bit. If JB really want to go to New York I'd take Robinson

Brunson has 10x Robinson value.

Yeah but JB is a UFA. JB is the one who holds the cards.

Only few teams have cap space and all of them are lottery teams. No way Brunson will go there.
Mavs will resign him for sure. 100%.

After then anything can happens...

[dirkdiggler4177]

There are a lot of weird trade suggestions here, like Bertans for Derrick Favors. Why would they do that? Also, why would the Pistons trade for Brunson when they already got Cade Cunningham? By the way, Grant has only played 7 more games than KP the last two seasons.

There are not enough minutes between Hardaway, Spencer, Brunson, and Bullock in the backcourt. They need to move one of them. I would love it if we got a quality center for Brunson, but that is not happening. So let's see what happens.
I also think Bertans will be back in better shooting shape. If Kidd is able to run him at 12ppg 40% we will suddenly see his value go up.

I don't see a significant change in the team with all that said. Try to get a center like Mo Bamba or something and maybe do a trade, but I think they want to build this team slowly and not go for the homerun as they did with KP.

[41Dirk41]

There are a lot of weird trade suggestions here, like Bertans for Derrick Favors. Why would they do that? Also, why would the Pistons trade for Brunson when they already got Cade Cunningham? By the way, Grant has only played 7 more games than KP the last two seasons.

There are not enough minutes between Hardaway, Spencer, Brunson, and Bullock in the backcourt. They need to move one of them. I would love it if we got a quality center for Brunson, but that is not happening. So let's see what happens.
I also think Bertans will be back in better shooting shape. If Kidd is able to run him at 12ppg 40% we will suddenly see his value go up.

I don't see a significant change in the team with all that said. Try to get a center like Mo Bamba or something and maybe do a trade, but I think they want to build this team slowly and not go for the homerun as they did with KP.

Me too... I see Mavs resign Brunson, draft a wing and sign a C with the exception. No more.

They will wait the TDL for something good...

[HMFFL]

The Knicks want Brunson this free agency and have just signed his father.

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