Mark Cuban must go!

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[BeiBeau]

1. And he didn't pay that for 11 straight year after 2011. He went cheap, i don't blame him. But that's it.

2. And we are not a legit contender, it's the result of 10+ years of bad moves. His fault.

3./4. This is a huge huge huge contradiction.

You’re the one with a contradiction. Being upset about sign dudes to contracts that are to big and then being mad when we let Jalen walk because his contract is to big.

Brunson is not worth 25 million dollars on the Dallas Mavericks. Full stop. He just isn’t that contract would have negative value here.

Sorry man but you are so confused, i don't care too much about money. I don't pay, Cuban do.
I just answered to people who are happy for some signs that we have only overpaid FA. That's it.

Nobody thinks that Brunson worths that money but he was one of the few assets we have and we lost him for nothing (i still hope in a S&T with a 3th team or something else). It's a bad move for sure.

You don't want resign player for big money and then justify Cuban's cheap because we have not just resigned players with big contract. That's fun. Very fun.

Let me spell this out for you because you’re the one confused buddy.

Saying offering Brunson 26 million dollars is a over pay and that money can be better spent elsewhere. And also saying that it is impossible to go over the luxury tax unless you sign your players to big time extensions are not mutually exclusive statements.

Dallas offered Brunson what he was worth. Which would’ve cost them 100 million dollars this season. That’s not being cheap.

I get that you’re a cry baby because they didn’t trade him mid season but like it or not that was probably the right decision at the time. Get over it dude. Yeah they had a good player get priced out for another team. It happens. For a dude who barely even wanted him you complain about it a ton.

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[41Dirk41]

You’re the one with a contradiction. Being upset about sign dudes to contracts that are to big and then being mad when we let Jalen walk because his contract is to big.

Brunson is not worth 25 million dollars on the Dallas Mavericks. Full stop. He just isn’t that contract would have negative value here.

Sorry man but you are so confused, i don't care too much about money. I don't pay, Cuban do.
I just answered to people who are happy for some signs that we have only overpaid FA. That's it.

Nobody thinks that Brunson worths that money but he was one of the few assets we have and we lost him for nothing (i still hope in a S&T with a 3th team or something else). It's a bad move for sure.

You don't want resign player for big money and then justify Cuban's cheap because we have not just resigned players with big contract. That's fun. Very fun.

Let me spell this out for you because you’re the one confused buddy.

Saying offering Brunson 26 million dollars is a over pay and that money can be better spent elsewhere. And also saying that it is impossible to go over the luxury tax unless you sign your players to big time extensions are not mutually exclusive statements.

Dallas offered Brunson what he was worth. Which would’ve cost them 100 million dollars this season. That’s not being cheap.

I get that you’re a cry baby because they didn’t trade him mid season but like it or not that was probably the right decision at the time. Get over it dude. Yeah they had a good player get priced out for another team. It happens. For a dude who barely even wanted him you complain about it a ton.

What are you saying???
You can't spend those money elsewhere, we are capped out

I'm embarassing for you... Take a rest. Trust me.

[BeiBeau]

Sorry man but you are so confused, i don't care too much about money. I don't pay, Cuban do.
I just answered to people who are happy for some signs that we have only overpaid FA. That's it.

Nobody thinks that Brunson worths that money but he was one of the few assets we have and we lost him for nothing (i still hope in a S&T with a 3th team or something else). It's a bad move for sure.

You don't want resign player for big money and then justify Cuban's cheap because we have not just resigned players with big contract. That's fun. Very fun.

Let me spell this out for you because you’re the one confused buddy.

Saying offering Brunson 26 million dollars is a over pay and that money can be better spent elsewhere. And also saying that it is impossible to go over the luxury tax unless you sign your players to big time extensions are not mutually exclusive statements.

Dallas offered Brunson what he was worth. Which would’ve cost them 100 million dollars this season. That’s not being cheap.

I get that you’re a cry baby because they didn’t trade him mid season but like it or not that was probably the right decision at the time. Get over it dude. Yeah they had a good player get priced out for another team. It happens. For a dude who barely even wanted him you complain about it a ton.

What are you saying???
You can't spend those money elsewhere, we are capped out

I'm embarassing for you... Take a rest. Trust me.

Ahhhh. Now I understand where you’re confused. Sometimes it’s hard because, you know, you don’t know much.

So you’re are correct that Dallas can’t spend that money now. Get yourself a cookie for at least getting that correct. However, in 2 years, when our bad money starts coming off and the cap goes up more, we will have money to sign better players who fit better with Luka. Probably even a max spot. Jalen wasn’t ever going to be our number 2. But if we have max cap space we could get our number 2.

If we had Jalen Brunson locked in for more money then he’s worth we couldn’t do that and if he’s over paid it would cost to dump him.

You’re just short sighted bud. Think bigger, Luka is only 23 and signed for 5 more years.

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If someone says Cuban needs to go they need to look at what he just accomplished with this team last year and realize we just went to the WCF.

Western conference will probably be historically strong this season. There is almost no weak teams. Even Portland made some surprising moves and are back in the playoff hunt. NOLA getting back Zion, LAC probably title favorites with their stacked roster then you still have Suns and even T'Wolves.. I expect even KIngs to be better than last year...Mavs lucked into Wood that's about it.

I dont care if it is luck or being good I care that we build a team with less weakness around Luka. That is what matters

I see what they have added and who they failed to resign and if I could change anything there is nothing I would change at all.

1. We have Luka and there is only one. The team around him has to be a fit for how he plays. The 4 players we added tell you what kind of players we needed and they went out and got them. If you ask me the Mavs wanted to put on a show to pretend that they wanted to keep Brunson. In reality I doubt they wanted to pay him what he got or even really were sincere in what they offered him because that would have been a massive financial **** up.

I do not care what the rest of the league does I care about how we build a team around LUKA who is arguably going to be considered the greatest basketball player of all time.

FRONTCOURT 4/5 We had a crap situation at center and we used a SF at PF last season now we have a near all star in Woods a 20-10 guy at PF plus McGee and Bingham offer us a way to match up with any team in the league with defensive postures under the rim that most teams will fail to attack successfully. We could likely use Woods at SF with McGee at center and Bingham at PF since Bingham hits 41.5% of his 3 pointers and he blocks 4.4 shots per game on a 36 minutes per game basis. With both McGee and Bingham under the basket that part of the court is denied to them. IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 4/5.

SF last years starting PF and SF are now both splitting time at SF that is solid and so IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 3

SG We get back our teams second leading scorer from injury with THJ returning to the lineup plus we add a highly regarded rookie in Jaden Hardy plus DinWiddie is going to play here a lot as well because as the 2nd team PG he is not going to get a lot of minutes backing up LUKA. The IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 2.

PG the position we have to worry about because Brunson left is in good hands because of this guy we have on our team. You may have heard of him his name is LUKA. He is a monster player that will step his game up again this next year. DinWiddie as the backup is a far better player than Brunson because he plays more effective as a 2 way player that scores and defends the other team well enough to keep from being that guy who makes the other team salivate because they know they are about to eat someone's lunch since Brunson was only 6'1" and most of the time they can just shoot over him very easily.

When Din is not in the game we have other guys that can score and dish the ball. Hardy and Ntilikina are both spoken of as PG's and what if you play them both at the same time.

Results are guaranteed to improve so IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE PG.

Where on this team do we fail to improve the team over last seasons team? There is no position that has failed to be sufficiently upgraded and anyone that says we failed to address an issue that resulted in our team being weaker at any one position they are lying to you. The facts are the facts and **** the rest of the WC. We can beat GSW with this team if we get decent play from the talent on this team.

If Hardy and Bingham develop fast enough so that they can play in the play offs this year we will be the top contender in the league and **** everyone's feelings. Let them cry and whine we are going to stomp a mud hole in the rest of the league and rip out the hearts of our opponents to leave a trail of tears.

[41Dirk41]

Let me spell this out for you because you’re the one confused buddy.

Saying offering Brunson 26 million dollars is a over pay and that money can be better spent elsewhere. And also saying that it is impossible to go over the luxury tax unless you sign your players to big time extensions are not mutually exclusive statements.

Dallas offered Brunson what he was worth. Which would’ve cost them 100 million dollars this season. That’s not being cheap.

I get that you’re a cry baby because they didn’t trade him mid season but like it or not that was probably the right decision at the time. Get over it dude. Yeah they had a good player get priced out for another team. It happens. For a dude who barely even wanted him you complain about it a ton.

What are you saying???
You can't spend those money elsewhere, we are capped out

I'm embarassing for you... Take a rest. Trust me.

Ahhhh. Now I understand where you’re confused. Sometimes it’s hard because, you know, you don’t know much.

So you’re are correct that Dallas can’t spend that money now. Get yourself a cookie for at least getting that correct. However, in 2 years, when our bad money starts coming off and the cap goes up more, we will have money to sign better players who fit better with Luka. Probably even a max spot. Jalen wasn’t ever going to be our number 2. But if we have max cap space we could get our number 2.

If we had Jalen Brunson locked in for more money then he’s worth we couldn’t do that and if he’s over paid it would cost to dump him.

You’re just short sighted bud. Think bigger, Luka is only 23 and signed for 5 more years.

In 2 years??? :Hahahahahahaha
Is this all a plan for winning in 2 years???
You can't be serious. No way.

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Because they have expiring contracts we can trade Powell and Kleeber to create a deal with over 20 million dollars in talent coming back. Maybe 23 million$$$ worth.

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If someone says Cuban needs to go they need to look at what he just accomplished with this team last year and realize we just went to the WCF.

Western conference will probably be historically strong this season. There is almost no weak teams. Even Portland made some surprising moves and are back in the playoff hunt. NOLA getting back Zion, LAC probably title favorites with their stacked roster then you still have Suns and even T'Wolves.. I expect even KIngs to be better than last year...Mavs lucked into Wood that's about it.

I dont care if it is luck or being good I care that we build a team with less weakness around Luka. That is what matters

I see what they have added and who they failed to resign and if I could change anything there is nothing I would change at all.

1. We have Luka and there is only one. The team around him has to be a fit for how he plays. The 4 players we added tell you what kind of players we needed and they went out and got them. If you ask me the Mavs wanted to put on a show to pretend that they wanted to keep Brunson. In reality I doubt they wanted to pay him what he got or even really were sincere in what they offered him because that would have been a massive financial **** up.

I do not care what the rest of the league does I care about how we build a team around LUKA who is arguably going to be considered the greatest basketball player of all time.

FRONTCOURT 4/5 We had a crap situation at center and we used a SF at PF last season now we have a near all star in Woods a 20-10 guy at PF plus McGee and Bingham offer us a way to match up with any team in the league with defensive postures under the rim that most teams will fail to attack successfully. We could likely use Woods at SF with McGee at center and Bingham at PF since Bingham hits 41.5% of his 3 pointers and he blocks 4.4 shots per game on a 36 minutes per game basis. With both McGee and Bingham under the basket that part of the court is denied to them. IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 4/5.

SF last years starting PF and SF are now both splitting time at SF that is solid and so IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 3

SG We get back our teams second leading scorer from injury with THJ returning to the lineup plus we add a highly regarded rookie in Jaden Hardy plus DinWiddie is going to play here a lot as well because as the 2nd team PG he is not going to get a lot of minutes backing up LUKA. The IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE 2.

PG the position we have to worry about because Brunson left is in good hands because of this guy we have on our team. You may have heard of him his name is LUKA. He is a monster player that will step his game up again this next year. DinWiddie as the backup is a far better player than Brunson because he plays more effective as a 2 way player that scores and defends the other team well enough to keep from being that guy who makes the other team salivate because they know they are about to eat someone's lunch since Brunson was only 6'1" and most of the time they can just shoot over him very easily.

When Din is not in the game we have other guys that can score and dish the ball. Hardy and Ntilikina are both spoken of as PG's and what if you play them both at the same time.

Results are guaranteed to improve so IMPROVEMENT IS OBVIOUS AT THE PG.

Where on this team do we fail to improve the team over last seasons team? There is no position that has failed to be sufficiently upgraded and anyone that says we failed to address an issue that resulted in our team being weaker at any one position they are lying to you. The facts are the facts and **** the rest of the WC. We can beat GSW with this team if we get decent play from the talent on this team.

If Hardy and Bingham develop fast enough so that they can play in the play offs this year we will be the top contender in the league and **** everyone's feelings. Let them cry and whine we are going to stomp a mud hole in the rest of the league and rip out the hearts of our opponents to leave a trail of tears.

Mavs have one proper playmaker and another so-so playmaker in Dinwiddie... That's it. You want to rely on Frank and rookies to bring this team to another level? Good luck with that

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Rookies do not get onto teams overnight and instantly they must prove themselves and earn playing time.

That is why a lot of them never make it and that is what you always do if you understand the process of building a team.

Patience grasshopper there must be lots of proving and testing first before the rookies can play in a game. First they must have success in summer league and then training camp.

If the coaches are impressed because of superior abilities that they notice being displayed then they slowly work them in and see what they can do in games.

Next they increase playing time as results continue to be satisfactory. Rookies win playing time when they outplay the veterans.

Hardy and Bingham will earn their playing time the old fashioned way by outplaying their team mates and making the team better as they win more time on the court. Both rookies have several veterans ahead of them that they would need to unseat.

At the 4/5 we have Woods and Mcgee as the starters followed by Kleeber and Powell.

Then you have the new kid on the block Marcus Bingham jr. So he has no competition to beat him out for minutes behind Woods and McGee because Powell and Kleeber are crap as centers and in fact they are not centers they are power forwards that play out of position because the team was badly constructed and it appears new management believes in using real centers now.

That is why they signed McGee and that is why Bingham is going to play because he is the only other real center on the team. It also helps his case that he is a superior talent because his defense is great and he shoots 3 pointers at 41.5%

At the guard position Hardy is already looked at as being a top tier talent that was rated super high, in fact, Hardy was once rated as the 2nd best prospect coming out of high school and only fell into our lap because of extremely stupid people that should be exposed for not having any skill at evaluating talent.

Now that being the case he still has to upset the apple cart by showing he can do better in games and take every opportunity to demonstrate his ability to score and pass etc..

When these 2 do demonstrate what they can do and do so with authority then what would you have the mavs do trade them or play them?

Till they do demonstrate that they can be game changers to prove that they deserve to play ahead of veterans they have a long road to travel and we have existing depth with many players that also seek to earn playing time.

The process plays out every year and some make it and some fail to step up their game. Teams take players on and if they fail to earn time then they evaluate their progress and make a decision to either give them more time or not and cut them.

I have faith in the new management to do things better. If that has happened we will know soon enough but even if we must take time to reward these guys with a larger role they will have to earn that time.

They are enjoying the high opinion of the coaching staff and the rest of the league so they will be given their shot. |They were chosen for a reason and if they pass the test of time they will earn a spot on the team.

As for what the mavs need I am sure we will make moves to improve our odds at winning and those moves will likely entail using the expiring contracts of Powell and Kleeber because those contracts have value in trades when certain situations exist that always seem to exist in cycles.

For that reason I anticipate the future trade of at least Powell because I know how valuable that contract is for getting another younger player. In combination with Kleeber's contract that value is even larger and more capable of getting us a a more useful player or 2 through trade.

Given that is the case you will likely see Bingham offered a faster path to playing because of the great need to replace Powell and Kleeber so that they can use those contracts in a trade because they are obviously going to be a trade chip.

So it is not wishful thinking that makes me state that Bingham is going to be playing sooner than later it is an understanding of the nature of contracts.

[Dmavs12]

We added about 27 PPG at the center position by adding Wood and Mcgee and no telling how many we get from Bingham when he develops.

Personally speaking Bingham may be the best center on the team when he is developed and he is fast and shoots well enough plus blocks a lot of shots. He reminds me of Kevin Garnett and his motor looks very similar for a 7' player that can probably guard 3 through 5 unlike the slow footed bigs we have used in the past. All three are strong enough to provide us with better defense and offense than we have had from the front court since Dirk and Tyson were here.

Nico inherited a situation and he made lemonade out of the lemons.

So far he gets an A from me. I was mad we lost Brunson for nothing but what could we do after they gambled and lost. Brunson broke out in the play offs when Luka was hurt and that is Luka's fault so you should blame him. Had he not broken out we would have him on the team but when a guy scores 40+ points in the PO your exposed when he does it right before he enters free agency and I cannot blame him for wanting to get paid a lot, Now you have to deal with stupid money driving up his offers and you never chase stupid money.

The mistake was not getting the extension done and if you failed to do that you trade that player every single time that is the only thing you can do but in hindsight we would not have won 2 rounds of the play offs if we had traded Brunson at the TDL so that is the good thing that we got as a result of keeping him, a trip to the WCF. Now we know what our team can do.

Do you honestly think Brunson is worth what he is getting? I do not think he is the 2nd best player on our team either he is a lucky guy who got hot and took advantage of the situation. Dinwiddie is a good player that could perform well but I agree Brunson knows the offense better, still Brunson also played **** defense so he gave back a lot of what he made happen on the other end of the court.

The truth is defense wins rings and now we have a legit contender because of the bigs we have.

DFS signed at bargain money so we kept defense and added to it. Bullock is capable as a 2 and plays defense as well as hits 3's you have Luka at the 1 and with DFS and Bullock at 1 through 3 with Wood at PF and McGee at center you have a defensive juggernaut that can dominate teams and hold them under 90 PPG consistently.

If Hardy and Bingham develop we are set to benefit greatly. They add to that rotation to give us 7 top tier players and you still have THJ, Dinwiddie and it sounds like Dragic will be here as well in the near future. That is 10 without even counting the two bigs we used last year Kleeber and Powell or the scrubs: Green, Frank and Pinson.

If they plan to stretch wave the scrubs and or trade them to add other talents they can do that and we will minimize the damage created from losing Brunson.

As I see it we benefit from losing Brunson because we are forced to play a defender at the 2 now. Adding Wood means you can play DFS at SF now and use an athletic 6'10" guy play at PF/ C

Well said.

[Bob8]

If undrafted player and a second rounder become starters than Mavs had one of the best off-season ever. Probability for that is less than 1%.

[jpengland]

I remember when these boards were proclaiming Tyrrell Terry as immediately good as Seth Curry

[41Dirk41]

If undrafted player and a second rounder become starters than Mavs had one of the best off-season ever. Probability for that is less than 1%.

I love soundchaser optimism, his posts make me in a good mood.

[Bob8]

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/7/5/23192230/how-to-cope-dallas-mavericks-losing-jalen-brunson

[41Dirk41]

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/7/5/23192230/how-to-cope-dallas-mavericks-losing-jalen-brunson

[Bob8]

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/7/5/23192230/how-to-cope-dallas-mavericks-losing-jalen-brunson

I would add, pretend that 2025 is around the corner and Mavs will do all the right moves then.

[Mavrelous]

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/7/5/23192230/how-to-cope-dallas-mavericks-losing-jalen-brunson

BTW I don't think Brunson is widely overpaid, he's easily 20/yr player, so 26 isn't that far off, but I also don't buy the 55/4 story, I think his father put it out as a preparation for the Knicks takeover.