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Post#81 » by SOUNDCHASER » Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:49 pm

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SOUNDCHASER wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066248/jared-harper still available and reminds me of Trey with great 3 point game and only 2 years in the league so low mileage.


Very funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

You don't like Schroeder but suggest a guy who played 16 TOTAL NBA games in his first 3seasons :lol: :lol: :lol:



Yeah he is about what we have left to pick from and I might rather get him than DS who I really do not want. Actually I would not sign anyone else at those kind of positions unless we add another back up at center like Whiteside or Cousins because McGee is already 34 and could get slowed by an injury and another center would help. You have to go deeper with your bigs to have a shot at the ring. McGee is our only true center and without another true center the chances of going deep in the PO's crash when you have to play a team like MIN or even GSW if they integrate Wiseman

I am for developing our youth to see what we have because it may get another team interested in them enough to be willing to trade a proven vet for a youngster who shows something come the TDL. Levert will be wanting a new contract and he may be interested in coming here to play with his old buddy Dinwiddie.
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Re: Mavericks Considering Adding Veteran Ballhandler To Roster 

Post#82 » by Bob8 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:56 pm

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ejs78 wrote:If Dallas wasn't on the his list of teams none of this matters.

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If Dallas made him a priority he would've been here, he signed for 2.6m in September, FA started July, it's not like he had a boatload of opportunities.
I wonder why he didn't have a boat load of opportunities

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I wonder how we didn't sign someone really good for vet minimum? :roll:
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Post#83 » by ejs78 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 10:22 pm

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If Dallas made him a priority he would've been here, he signed for 2.6m in September, FA started July, it's not like he had a boatload of opportunities.
I wonder why he didn't have a boat load of opportunities

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I wonder how we didn't sign someone really good for vet minimum? :roll:
Its shocking right???

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ejs78 wrote:I wonder why he didn't have a boat load of opportunities

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I wonder how we didn't sign someone really good for vet minimum? :roll:
Its shocking right???

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Not exactly shocking but funny for sure. We wanted stars before, now we would be satisfied with vet minimum Pg, but can't get one. But hey, we have got 34 years old, carrier backup C for 17 mio and promised him the starting position. I believe things look very bright for the future.

I can't wait to hear about Luka having the ball too much. :D
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Post#85 » by ejs78 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:52 pm

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I wonder how we didn't sign someone really good for vet minimum? :roll:
Its shocking right???

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Not exactly shocking but funny for sure. We wanted stars before, now we would be satisfied with vet minimum Pg, but can't get one. But hey, we have got 34 years old, carrier backup C for 17 mio and promised him the starting position. I believe things look very bright for the future.

I can't wait to hear about Luka having the ball too much. :D
The sky is falling.

Schroder was clearly the missing piece

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ejs78 wrote:Its shocking right???

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Not exactly shocking but funny for sure. We wanted stars before, now we would be satisfied with vet minimum Pg, but can't get one. But hey, we have got 34 years old, carrier backup C for 17 mio and promised him the starting position. I believe things look very bright for the future.

I can't wait to hear about Luka having the ball too much. :D
The sky is falling.

Schroder was clearly the missing piece

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We will win the title, McGee and Wood were missing pieces and Brunson was negative player, thanks god that he's not Maverick anymore.
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Post#87 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:09 am

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Not exactly shocking but funny for sure. We wanted stars before, now we would be satisfied with vet minimum Pg, but can't get one. But hey, we have got 34 years old, carrier backup C for 17 mio and promised him the starting position. I believe things look very bright for the future.

I can't wait to hear about Luka having the ball too much. :D
The sky is falling.

Schroder was clearly the missing piece

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We will win the title, McGee and Wood were missing pieces and Brunson was negative player, thanks god that he's not Maverick anymore.
What over the past 2 years has Schroder done to impress you?

Also please quote me on where I said the Mavs are winning title


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Post#88 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:23 am

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ejs78 wrote:The sky is falling.

Schroder was clearly the missing piece

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We will win the title, McGee and Wood were missing pieces and Brunson was negative player, thanks god that he's not Maverick anymore.
What over the past 2 years has Schroder done to impress you?

Also please quote me on where I said the Mavs are winning title

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It's vet minimum. You're not getting no one impressive for vet minimum. I'm sure that Dragic or Schroeder are better than 1/3 of Mavs roster. You can't expect from Luka and Dinwiddie to play all games, and you for sure don't want nobody else to run the point. I'm not sure that they're even capable to bring the ball over the half-court line.

But hey maybe I'm wrong and Pinson, Ntilikina and Green will have breakthrough year. :o :lol:
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Re: Mavericks Considering Adding Veteran Ballhandler To Roster 

Post#89 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:30 am

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SOUNDCHASER wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066248/jared-harper still available and reminds me of Trey with great 3 point game and only 2 years in the league so low mileage.


Very funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

You don't like Schroeder but suggest a guy who played 16 TOTAL NBA games in his first 3seasons :lol: :lol: :lol:



Yeah he is about what we have left to pick from and I might rather get him than DS who I really do not want. Actually I would not sign anyone else at those kind of positions unless we add another back up at center like Whiteside or Cousins because McGee is already 34 and could get slowed by an injury and another center would help. You have to go deeper with your bigs to have a shot at the ring. McGee is our only true center and without another true center the chances of going deep in the PO's crash when you have to play a team like MIN or even GSW if they integrate Wiseman

I am for developing our youth to see what we have because it may get another team interested in them enough to be willing to trade a proven vet for a youngster who shows something come the TDL. Levert will be wanting a new contract and he may be interested in coming here to play with his old buddy Dinwiddie.


Another big? Are you serious? Last year we maked the WCF and this year we added Wood+McGee (ok not a good sign at that price).
GSW won the title with only Green and Looney at C and they are PF or maybe SF.

They only Cs who makes impact in PO are Embiid and Jokic. We don't need more bigs for sure.

I will try with Mike James, vet PG with a lot of talents but 0 defensive skills and little headcase.
In RS he can lead the team for sure.
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Post#90 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:34 am

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
We will win the title, McGee and Wood were missing pieces and Brunson was negative player, thanks god that he's not Maverick anymore.
What over the past 2 years has Schroder done to impress you?

Also please quote me on where I said the Mavs are winning title

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It's vet minimum. You're not getting no one impressive for vet minimum. I'm sure that Dragic or Schroeder are better than 1/3 of Mavs roster. You can't expect from Luka and Dinwiddie to play all games, and you for sure don't want nobody else to run the point. I'm not sure that they're even capable to bring the ball over the half-court line.

But hey maybe I'm wrong and Pinson, Ntilikina and Green will have breakthrough year. :o :lol:


Pinson and Frank are barely trash... But we have to hope for a breakout season by Green otherwise he will be another Justin Anderson.
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Post#91 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:58 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
We will win the title, McGee and Wood were missing pieces and Brunson was negative player, thanks god that he's not Maverick anymore.
What over the past 2 years has Schroder done to impress you?

Also please quote me on where I said the Mavs are winning title

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It's vet minimum. You're not getting no one impressive for vet minimum. I'm sure that Dragic or Schroeder are better than 1/3 of Mavs roster. You can't expect from Luka and Dinwiddie to play all games, and you for sure don't want nobody else to run the point. I'm not sure that they're even capable to bring the ball over the half-court line.

But hey maybe I'm wrong and Pinson, Ntilikina and Green will have breakthrough year. :o :lol:



Let go over these great Schroder accomplishments the last 2 years while Bob tries to find the quote of me saying the Mavs are going to win the title:

Schroder:
Turns down 80 million from the Lakers
FA 2021 he was one of the last big name FA to sign which happened in August w/ Boston for about 6 mil
Boston realizes he's a cancer, trades him for Theis, and the Cs go on a rampage to the finals after dumping him (They wanted THEIS over him :lol: )
FA 2022 he again is on of the last big name FA to sign, but this time in Sept for a vet min which is half of what he got in 2021

I dont know Bob I think I'm going to go with all the GMs in the league knowing more about Schroder than you based off seeing whats happened and him only getting 1 year deals. I think I am also going go with HOFer Kidd who coached him in LA and HOFer Dirk who played with him on the Germany team over you. Its crazy I know :crazy:

There is no argument that hes more talented than guys like Pinson, but guys like Pinson are 100% better locker room guys and this is why Schroder for the last 2 years has had a hard time finding a job. Not sure if you've noticed but Kidd likes to focus on defense in which Schroder and Dragic play ZERO.
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Post#92 » by Archx » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:39 pm

A lot of people here are completely missing the point. You can add 100 amazing 3&D wings, slashers or pure defensive players, or you can add 100 same PF's, SG's etc.. You can even build up the best locker room chemistry there is but you will still fail when you run out of players who can actually create something for all those other guys.

I see some of you still don't understand the concept of how Mavs roster is built. When playoffs arrived, it was clear as a day why Mavs traded for Dinwiddie. Even if some of us didn't like the overall outcome of the trade, it still proved to be a decent move to give Brunson and Doncic some stress relief on the pure playmaking position. And even though Brunson was never a great playmaker, he still was valuable as a 2nd option to Doncic with Spencer backing them up.

But now, Mavs have no playmakers left outside of Doncic and maybe Dinwiddie or a guy who is on a 2way contract Dorsey. The only other person able to do something with the ball on this roster is THJ but we also all know he can never be fully trusted.

Like Bob said, what happens if Luka or Dinwiddie get injured? What happens if even one of them misses 15-20 games? Who is the next best guy to handle playmaking duties? Frank, Green, Pinson? :lol:
This is the main reason why Dragic or Schroeder would help a lot. This is also why all top teams have multiple guards or even wings that can create for themselves or others. Mavs have ZERO of that type of players on wing and SG positions.
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Post#93 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:43 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:What over the past 2 years has Schroder done to impress you?

Also please quote me on where I said the Mavs are winning title

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It's vet minimum. You're not getting no one impressive for vet minimum. I'm sure that Dragic or Schroeder are better than 1/3 of Mavs roster. You can't expect from Luka and Dinwiddie to play all games, and you for sure don't want nobody else to run the point. I'm not sure that they're even capable to bring the ball over the half-court line.

But hey maybe I'm wrong and Pinson, Ntilikina and Green will have breakthrough year. :o :lol:



Let go over these great Schroder accomplishments the last 2 years while Bob tries to find the quote of me saying the Mavs are going to win the title:

Schroder:
Turns down 80 million from the Lakers
FA 2021 he was one of the last big name FA to sign which happened in August w/ Boston for about 6 mil
Boston realizes he's a cancer, trades him for Theis, and the Cs go on a rampage to the finals after dumping him (They wanted THEIS over him :lol: )
FA 2022 he again is on of the last big name FA to sign, but this time in Sept for a vet min which is half of what he got in 2021

I dont know Bob I think I'm going to go with all the GMs in the league knowing more about Schroder than you based off seeing whats happened and him only getting 1 year deals. I think I am also going go with HOFer Kidd who coached him in LA and HOFer Dirk who played with him on the Germany team over you. Its crazy I know :crazy:

There is no argument that hes more talented than guys like Pinson, but guys like Pinson are 100% better locker room guys and this is why Schroder for the last 2 years has had a hard time finding a job. Not sure if you've noticed but Kidd likes to focus on defense in which Schroder and Dragic play ZERO.


Maybe you should try to find the quote, where I praised Dennis. ;)

Giving roster spot for a cheerleader is totally wrong concept for me. Ntilikina might be better defender, but that won't help Mavs, when Luka or/and Dinwiddie will be out. I believe Dragic/Schroeder would be much more useful in that situation. And we're talking about vet minimum 1 year deal, so no risk whatsoever. Giving 17 mio guaranteed deal to 34 years old player is much riskier deal.
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Post#94 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:05 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
It's vet minimum. You're not getting no one impressive for vet minimum. I'm sure that Dragic or Schroeder are better than 1/3 of Mavs roster. You can't expect from Luka and Dinwiddie to play all games, and you for sure don't want nobody else to run the point. I'm not sure that they're even capable to bring the ball over the half-court line.

But hey maybe I'm wrong and Pinson, Ntilikina and Green will have breakthrough year. :o :lol:



Let go over these great Schroder accomplishments the last 2 years while Bob tries to find the quote of me saying the Mavs are going to win the title:

Schroder:
Turns down 80 million from the Lakers
FA 2021 he was one of the last big name FA to sign which happened in August w/ Boston for about 6 mil
Boston realizes he's a cancer, trades him for Theis, and the Cs go on a rampage to the finals after dumping him (They wanted THEIS over him :lol: )
FA 2022 he again is on of the last big name FA to sign, but this time in Sept for a vet min which is half of what he got in 2021

I dont know Bob I think I'm going to go with all the GMs in the league knowing more about Schroder than you based off seeing whats happened and him only getting 1 year deals. I think I am also going go with HOFer Kidd who coached him in LA and HOFer Dirk who played with him on the Germany team over you. Its crazy I know :crazy:

There is no argument that hes more talented than guys like Pinson, but guys like Pinson are 100% better locker room guys and this is why Schroder for the last 2 years has had a hard time finding a job. Not sure if you've noticed but Kidd likes to focus on defense in which Schroder and Dragic play ZERO.


Maybe you should try to find the quote, where I praised Dennis. ;)

Giving roster spot for a cheerleader is totally wrong concept for me. Ntilikina might be better defender, but that won't help Mavs, when Luka or/and Dinwiddie will be out. I believe Dragic/Schroeder would be much more useful in that situation. And we're talking about vet minimum 1 year deal, so no risk whatsoever. Giving 17 mio guaranteed deal to 34 years old player is much riskier deal.


You keep going back to its a 1 year vet minimum deal with no risk yet nearly the entire league doesnt want to take the risk LOL. Its weird you dont see any teams win a title with players who are a cancer amirite? This is why Mcgee got the deal he did and why Schroder got the deal he did. Again ill go with brain trust of the entire NBA over yours :lol:
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Post#95 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:11 pm

Archx wrote:A lot of people here are completely missing the point. You can add 100 amazing 3&D wings, slashers or pure defensive players, or you can add 100 same PF's, SG's etc.. You can even build up the best locker room chemistry there is but you will still fail when you run out of players who can actually create something for all those other guys.

I see some of you still don't understand the concept of how Mavs roster is built. When playoffs arrived, it was clear as a day why Mavs traded for Dinwiddie. Even if some of us didn't like the overall outcome of the trade, it still proved to be a decent move to give Brunson and Doncic some stress relief on the pure playmaking position. And even though Brunson was never a great playmaker, he still was valuable as a 2nd option to Doncic with Spencer backing them up.

But now, Mavs have no playmakers left outside of Doncic and maybe Dinwiddie or a guy who is on a 2way contract Dorsey. The only other person able to do something with the ball on this roster is THJ but we also all know he can never be fully trusted.

Like Bob said, what happens if Luka or Dinwiddie get injured? What happens if even one of them misses 15-20 games? Who is the next best guy to handle playmaking duties? Frank, Green, Pinson? :lol:
This is the main reason why Dragic or Schroeder would help a lot. This is also why all top teams have multiple guards or even wings that can create for themselves or others. Mavs have ZERO of that type of players on wing and SG positions.



Not saying they don't need another ball handler. Whatever the roster is to start the season doesnt mean its the one they will finish the season with. Much rather take time to find the right piece over ramming a square peg into a round hole.
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Post#96 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:18 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:

Let go over these great Schroder accomplishments the last 2 years while Bob tries to find the quote of me saying the Mavs are going to win the title:

Schroder:
Turns down 80 million from the Lakers
FA 2021 he was one of the last big name FA to sign which happened in August w/ Boston for about 6 mil
Boston realizes he's a cancer, trades him for Theis, and the Cs go on a rampage to the finals after dumping him (They wanted THEIS over him :lol: )
FA 2022 he again is on of the last big name FA to sign, but this time in Sept for a vet min which is half of what he got in 2021

I dont know Bob I think I'm going to go with all the GMs in the league knowing more about Schroder than you based off seeing whats happened and him only getting 1 year deals. I think I am also going go with HOFer Kidd who coached him in LA and HOFer Dirk who played with him on the Germany team over you. Its crazy I know :crazy:

There is no argument that hes more talented than guys like Pinson, but guys like Pinson are 100% better locker room guys and this is why Schroder for the last 2 years has had a hard time finding a job. Not sure if you've noticed but Kidd likes to focus on defense in which Schroder and Dragic play ZERO.


Maybe you should try to find the quote, where I praised Dennis. ;)

Giving roster spot for a cheerleader is totally wrong concept for me. Ntilikina might be better defender, but that won't help Mavs, when Luka or/and Dinwiddie will be out. I believe Dragic/Schroeder would be much more useful in that situation. And we're talking about vet minimum 1 year deal, so no risk whatsoever. Giving 17 mio guaranteed deal to 34 years old player is much riskier deal.


You keep going back to its a 1 year vet minimum deal with no risk yet nearly the entire league doesnt want to take the risk LOL. Its weird you dont see any teams win a title with players who are a cancer amirite? This is why Mcgee got the deal he did and why Schroder got the deal he did. Again ill go with brain trust of the entire NBA over yours :lol:


Both Dragic and Schroeder got the deal, didn't they? ;) I wonder how likely is that Pinson and Ntilikina could get the deal outside Mavs?
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Post#97 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:29 pm

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ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Maybe you should try to find the quote, where I praised Dennis. ;)

Giving roster spot for a cheerleader is totally wrong concept for me. Ntilikina might be better defender, but that won't help Mavs, when Luka or/and Dinwiddie will be out. I believe Dragic/Schroeder would be much more useful in that situation. And we're talking about vet minimum 1 year deal, so no risk whatsoever. Giving 17 mio guaranteed deal to 34 years old player is much riskier deal.


You keep going back to its a 1 year vet minimum deal with no risk yet nearly the entire league doesnt want to take the risk LOL. Its weird you dont see any teams win a title with players who are a cancer amirite? This is why Mcgee got the deal he did and why Schroder got the deal he did. Again ill go with brain trust of the entire NBA over yours :lol:


Both Dragic and Schroeder got the deal, didn't they? ;) I wonder how likely is that Pinson and Ntilikina could get the deal outside Mavs?


Yeah they both got deals with teams who have lower projected win totals than Dallas :) I really dont think you understand the chemistry portion of team building at all. Might just want to stick with EuroBasket my friend.
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Post#98 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:33 pm

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You keep going back to its a 1 year vet minimum deal with no risk yet nearly the entire league doesnt want to take the risk LOL. Its weird you dont see any teams win a title with players who are a cancer amirite? This is why Mcgee got the deal he did and why Schroder got the deal he did. Again ill go with brain trust of the entire NBA over yours :lol:


Both Dragic and Schroeder got the deal, didn't they? ;) I wonder how likely is that Pinson and Ntilikina could get the deal outside Mavs?


Yeah they both got deals with teams who have lower projected win totals than Dallas :) I really dont think you understand the chemistry portion of team building at all. Might just want to stick with EuroBasket my friend.


You mean the chemistry that Kidd is building with his friends? ;)
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Post#99 » by ejs78 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:37 pm

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ejs78 wrote:
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Both Dragic and Schroeder got the deal, didn't they? ;) I wonder how likely is that Pinson and Ntilikina could get the deal outside Mavs?


Yeah they both got deals with teams who have lower projected win totals than Dallas :) I really dont think you understand the chemistry portion of team building at all. Might just want to stick with EuroBasket my friend.


You mean the chemistry that Kidd is building with his friends? ;)


THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!
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Post#100 » by Bob8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:40 pm

ejs78 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:[list=][/list]
ejs78 wrote:
Yeah they both got deals with teams who have lower projected win totals than Dallas :) I really dont think you understand the chemistry portion of team building at all. Might just want to stick with EuroBasket my friend.


You mean the chemistry that Kidd is building with his friends? ;)


THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!


On Kidd's friends? :D

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