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RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST)

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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#81 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:05 am

Another ugly win, better than a loss anyway……
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#82 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:28 am

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SOUNDCHASER wrote:Wood is great on defense the guy has 2.3 blocks per game since he was inserted in the starting rotation and that is top 4 I think in the league. Man does Powell take a lot of hits to the face. It must be like the other teams are betting with each other to see who hits him in the face the most this year and there is a lot of money going to the winner.


He gets blocks because of his length,Just like Luka gets steals cause he can read the game...that doesn't make either a good defender


So neither use your size or brains make u a great defender... I just got to ask, what in your mind makes a good defender? ESPN studios? Youtube video opinions?


If you use your size and your brain to your advantage Just when you "feel" like it, you're not a good defender...i never Said they aren't capable of playing defence,they can when they want to,it's Just that they Both seem to fall asleep,Loose Focus ,on D a lot

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2023/01/dallas-mavericks-trade-nba/
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#83 » by Bob8 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:48 am

Mavs should play a lot faster without Luka. Dinwiddie tries to play the same pace, but he's not Luka and consequently offrtg falls off the cliff, when Luka sits.

Btw. Mavs are 6.5 points better in 100 possessions without Dinwiddie. It might be unpopular idea, but trading him should be an option too, especially since his value is up this season.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#84 » by Archx » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:14 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:If you use your size and your brain to your advantage Just when you "feel" like it, you're not a good defender...i never Said they aren't capable of playing defence,they can when they want to,it's Just that they Both seem to fall asleep,Loose Focus ,on D a lot

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2023/01/dallas-mavericks-trade-nba/


If you think that Luka and Wood are problem on defense, then you'd be shocked if i go further down the rabbit hole.

Bob8 wrote:Mavs should play a lot faster without Luka. Dinwiddie tries to play the same pace, but he's not Luka and consequently offrtg falls off the cliff, when Luka sits.

Btw. Mavs are 6.5 points better in 100 possessions without Dinwiddie. It might be unpopular idea, but trading him should be an option too, especially since his value is up this season.


Mostly agree but i do think that Spencer is very valuable to this team. And i also believe that he could be the best 6th man in the league if he accepted this role. Problem is, Mavs right now have no one who is even close to replacing him in the starting lineup.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#85 » by Bob8 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:31 pm

Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:If you use your size and your brain to your advantage Just when you "feel" like it, you're not a good defender...i never Said they aren't capable of playing defence,they can when they want to,it's Just that they Both seem to fall asleep,Loose Focus ,on D a lot

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2023/01/dallas-mavericks-trade-nba/


If you think that Luka and Wood are problem on defense, then you'd be shocked if i go further down the rabbit hole.

Bob8 wrote:Mavs should play a lot faster without Luka. Dinwiddie tries to play the same pace, but he's not Luka and consequently offrtg falls off the cliff, when Luka sits.

Btw. Mavs are 6.5 points better in 100 possessions without Dinwiddie. It might be unpopular idea, but trading him should be an option too, especially since his value is up this season.


Mostly agree but i do think that Spencer is very valuable to this team. And i also believe that he could be the best 6th man in the league if he accepted this role. Problem is, Mavs right now have no one who is even close to replacing him in the starting lineup.


I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#86 » by Archx » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:46 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:If you use your size and your brain to your advantage Just when you "feel" like it, you're not a good defender...i never Said they aren't capable of playing defence,they can when they want to,it's Just that they Both seem to fall asleep,Loose Focus ,on D a lot

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2023/01/dallas-mavericks-trade-nba/


If you think that Luka and Wood are problem on defense, then you'd be shocked if i go further down the rabbit hole.

Bob8 wrote:Mavs should play a lot faster without Luka. Dinwiddie tries to play the same pace, but he's not Luka and consequently offrtg falls off the cliff, when Luka sits.

Btw. Mavs are 6.5 points better in 100 possessions without Dinwiddie. It might be unpopular idea, but trading him should be an option too, especially since his value is up this season.


Mostly agree but i do think that Spencer is very valuable to this team. And i also believe that he could be the best 6th man in the league if he accepted this role. Problem is, Mavs right now have no one who is even close to replacing him in the starting lineup.


I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.


All of that is true but Dinwiddie is still far more reliable than THJ or Bullock. If you can get an absolute star for him, you do it, but trading him "just because" would be a mistake in my opinion. Like i said, Mavs don't have to play them together, he could be a perfect 6th guy and he actually was when Brunson was still there. Teams need guys like him and he has proven that he can do damage without Luka. I also like his contract for what he brings to the team.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#87 » by daoneandonly » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:52 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:If you use your size and your brain to your advantage Just when you "feel" like it, you're not a good defender...i never Said they aren't capable of playing defence,they can when they want to,it's Just that they Both seem to fall asleep,Loose Focus ,on D a lot

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2023/01/dallas-mavericks-trade-nba/


If you think that Luka and Wood are problem on defense, then you'd be shocked if i go further down the rabbit hole.

Bob8 wrote:Mavs should play a lot faster without Luka. Dinwiddie tries to play the same pace, but he's not Luka and consequently offrtg falls off the cliff, when Luka sits.

Btw. Mavs are 6.5 points better in 100 possessions without Dinwiddie. It might be unpopular idea, but trading him should be an option too, especially since his value is up this season.


Mostly agree but i do think that Spencer is very valuable to this team. And i also believe that he could be the best 6th man in the league if he accepted this role. Problem is, Mavs right now have no one who is even close to replacing him in the starting lineup.


I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.


Remmeber when Bob said this about Brunson over and over everyone? Now, its the biggest loss in NBA history we don't have him and he was such a great piece here. Guess Spence will get the same feedback after he's gone.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#88 » by Bob8 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:55 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
If you think that Luka and Wood are problem on defense, then you'd be shocked if i go further down the rabbit hole.



Mostly agree but i do think that Spencer is very valuable to this team. And i also believe that he could be the best 6th man in the league if he accepted this role. Problem is, Mavs right now have no one who is even close to replacing him in the starting lineup.


I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.


All of that is true but Dinwiddie is still far more reliable than THJ or Bullock. If you can get an absolute star for him, you do it, but trading him "just because" would be a mistake in my opinion. Like i said, Mavs don't have to play them together, he could be a perfect 6th guy and he actually was when Brunson was still there. Teams need guys like him and he has proven that he can do damage without Luka. I also like his contract for what he brings to the team.


I'm just realistic. I would be ecstatic, if we could get anything for THJ, Bullock, Frank, Powell, Pinson, McGee, Brunson...and keep DFS, Green and Dinwiddie, but unfortunately we can't. Someone will have to go and even that won't probably bring much back. If someone is prepared to give something interesting back for Dinwiddie, Mavs should consider it. Advanced stats don't lie, Dinwiddie is not giving Mavs enough to be untouchable.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#89 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:04 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.


All of that is true but Dinwiddie is still far more reliable than THJ or Bullock. If you can get an absolute star for him, you do it, but trading him "just because" would be a mistake in my opinion. Like i said, Mavs don't have to play them together, he could be a perfect 6th guy and he actually was when Brunson was still there. Teams need guys like him and he has proven that he can do damage without Luka. I also like his contract for what he brings to the team.


I'm just realistic. I would be ecstatic, if we could get anything for THJ, Bullock, Frank, Powell, Pinson, McGee, Brunson...and keep DFS, Green and Dinwiddie, but unfortunately we can't. Someone will have to go and even that won't probably bring much back. If someone is prepared to give something interesting back for Dinwiddie, Mavs should consider it. Advanced stats don't lie, Dinwiddie is not giving Mavs enough to be untouchable.

I mostly agree, whilst I wouldn't want to give up Dinwiddie the question is what could we get in return. He's valuable and a great player to have but if he can be part of a trade for a franchise altering player I think, I agree, one has to consider it.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#90 » by arkuo » Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:19 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I don't believe Mavs can do much in this season, so you can't lose much anyway. If someone really likes him and is prepared to give something interesting back, I would trade him and put Green in the starting lineup. There're only few players that other teams might want and 1 of them is Dinwiddie.

Dinwiddie is not good enough Pg and is a very bad defender, his best skill is being iso scorer, which you really don't need, if you already have Luka.


All of that is true but Dinwiddie is still far more reliable than THJ or Bullock. If you can get an absolute star for him, you do it, but trading him "just because" would be a mistake in my opinion. Like i said, Mavs don't have to play them together, he could be a perfect 6th guy and he actually was when Brunson was still there. Teams need guys like him and he has proven that he can do damage without Luka. I also like his contract for what he brings to the team.


I'm just realistic. I would be ecstatic, if we could get anything for THJ, Bullock, Frank, Powell, Pinson, McGee, Brunson...and keep DFS, Green and Dinwiddie, but unfortunately we can't. Someone will have to go and even that won't probably bring much back. If someone is prepared to give something interesting back for Dinwiddie, Mavs should consider it. Advanced stats don't lie, Dinwiddie is not giving Mavs enough to be untouchable.



There is a higher chance Toronto become sellers in the next week over the Jazz. And if they do, one if not all of Siakam, OG and Vanvleet will be available. If the Mavs can trade picks by then, I think they need to take a look at that angle over waiting for a big name free agent to sign voluntarily.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pistons (Mond. 8:30PM EST) 

Post#91 » by Apz » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:58 am

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
All of that is true but Dinwiddie is still far more reliable than THJ or Bullock. If you can get an absolute star for him, you do it, but trading him "just because" would be a mistake in my opinion. Like i said, Mavs don't have to play them together, he could be a perfect 6th guy and he actually was when Brunson was still there. Teams need guys like him and he has proven that he can do damage without Luka. I also like his contract for what he brings to the team.


I'm just realistic. I would be ecstatic, if we could get anything for THJ, Bullock, Frank, Powell, Pinson, McGee, Brunson...and keep DFS, Green and Dinwiddie, but unfortunately we can't. Someone will have to go and even that won't probably bring much back. If someone is prepared to give something interesting back for Dinwiddie, Mavs should consider it. Advanced stats don't lie, Dinwiddie is not giving Mavs enough to be untouchable.



There is a higher chance Toronto become sellers in the next week over the Jazz. And if they do, one if not all of Siakam, OG and Vanvleet will be available. If the Mavs can trade picks by then, I think they need to take a look at that angle over waiting for a big name free agent to sign voluntarily.


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