Kyrie Irving, Markieff Morris to Mavs for DFS, Spence, 2029 1st and 2027 and 2029 2nds

[f l u r p]

I swear I was about to come to your forum and ask you about a Kyrie trade and this news drop.
Would you guys have done a Dindwidde for DFS trade straight up without a FRP because that's what I thought was gonna happend or switch one of those guys with Wood? I'm honestly scared for you guys. You are already a team that is assets strapped and you just traded away two of your four best players for a nutjob that's completly unpredicatble and injury prone and also under performed these last years in the playoffs. This is an all or nothing move and your season just became championship or bust. I always looked at it as a punt year for you until that knicks picked conveyed and you could make your all in move next off season to pair maybe Luka with a second star, but now that's over with that 29 FRP.

What makes this trade so risky is you have so little assets traded Dinwidde and DFS could lose Wood and Kyrie in the off season no team could handle that and would make you lose Luka in like 2 years. You are not a team that should have taken this risky and Kyrie has blown up all the teams he has been on and I can't see this ending in any other way. Either way GL as long as it's not against Denver.

Luke was gone anyway if we didn’t land a superstar. The risk is having Luka sit back and see the team do nothing and decide “nope”.

[Absinthe]

Dallas pretty much traded Porzingis for Kyrie and Bertans in a roundabout way. With DFS and some picks included, of course.

[SkyBill40]

Good luck, guys. I think you're going to need it because I don't think Kyrie's Krazy train stops there. It's going to chug right on and turn your team against itself.

I can't imagine Cuban trading away some great pieces for a three month rental in Irving, but I guess we'll all see what comes from it. And to think that he can say he'll stay, only to change his mind and renege on a verbal agreement to leave the team with nothing.

Yikes.

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[Darklight]

I dislike everything about Kyrie off the floor. He’s an idiot.

That being said, Cuban has finally put a second superstar on the same team. Hasn’t happened in true history of his ownership.

What we gave us is basically nothing in the big picture.

We’ll see how it works out.

Gave up nothing? Bro you gave up some of your most valueable players and that pick is a 29 FRP unprotected you can bet it's gonna be top 10 lol. There is bigger likely hood that Kyrie leaves and you aren't even sure if you wanna re-sign him lmao. This move is gonna be the nail in the coffin for the Luka era here in Mavs bet on it.

[arkuo]

I swear I was about to come to your forum and ask you about a Kyrie trade and this news drop.
Would you guys have done a Dindwidde for DFS trade straight up without a FRP because that's what I thought was gonna happend or switch one of those guys with Wood? I'm honestly scared for you guys. You are already a team that is assets strapped and you just traded away two of your four best players for a nutjob that's completly unpredicatble and injury prone and also under performed these last years in the playoffs. This is an all or nothing move and your season just became championship or bust. I always looked at it as a punt year for you until that knicks picked conveyed and you could make your all in move next off season to pair maybe Luka with a second star, but now that's over with that 29 FRP.

What makes this trade so risky is you have so little assets traded Dinwidde and DFS could lose Wood and Kyrie in the off season no team could handle that and would make you lose Luka in like 2 years. You are not a team that should have taken this risky and Kyrie has blown up all the teams he has been on and I can't see this ending in any other way. Either way GL as long as it's not against Denver.

Luke was gone anyway if we didn’t land a superstar. The risk is having Luka sit back and see the team do nothing and decide “nope”.

It's a smart trade.

If Kyrie walks, Dallas gets max cap sapce.

[Apz]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

[Mr B]

I dislike everything about Kyrie off the floor. He’s an idiot.

That being said, Cuban has finally put a second superstar on the same team. Hasn’t happened in true history of his ownership.

What we gave us is basically nothing in the big picture.

We’ll see how it works out.

Gave up nothing? Bro you gave up some of your most valueable players and that pick is a 29 FRP unprotected you can bet it's gonna be top 10 lol. There is bigger likely hood that Kyrie leaves and you aren't even sure if you wanna re-sign him lmao. This move is gonna be the nail in the coffin for the Luka era here in Mavs bet on it.

You realize even if that did happen (highly doubtful) that wouldn’t happen until 2027 right? Lots of moves to be made between now and then, so don’t get your hopes up yet.

[dirkules_41]

Good question... At least the made an high caliber move and not resign our mediocre guys every year.

If the Mavs swing for the fences and actually get Pascal Siakam, it would actually balance the roster out.

Siakam would be great. It you don’t think the need a big more than they need a SF/PF? Their rebounding and interior defense is still atrocious.

Yeah I also don't see how a 6'9 SF/PF would balance things out? We need a rim protecting big that can score some points and rebounds.

[arkuo]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

The current defense with Dinwiddie and DFS also made me want to puke.

If they did not make a move, Luka walking was an easy choice. They HAD to make this move considering all the other moves they passed up.

[f l u r p]

I dislike everything about Kyrie off the floor. He’s an idiot.

That being said, Cuban has finally put a second superstar on the same team. Hasn’t happened in true history of his ownership.

What we gave us is basically nothing in the big picture.

We’ll see how it works out.

Gave up nothing? Bro you gave up some of your most valueable players and that pick is a 29 FRP unprotected you can bet it's gonna be top 10 lol. There is bigger likely hood that Kyrie leaves and you aren't even sure if you wanna re-sign him lmao. This move is gonna be the nail in the coffin for the Luka era here in Mavs bet on it.

I stand by my opinion. DFS and Dinwiddie were role players. A FRP six years from now doesn’t even make be blink.

[dirkules_41]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

Well to be fair we got more than a star, this is a bonafide all-NBA calibre player. He comes with some asterisks but the price is far from high and we have the ability to extend his contract and he'll never be worthless as this very situation showed.

[dirkules_41]

Must say Im very dissapointed in the FO for doing the desperation move of all desperation moves. Now Wood need to get his full extension right away, cause there is no going back.

With Luka, Kyrie and Wood mavs will be the deadliest offense in nba. Defense will make us wanna puke. Since we cant get a star anymore because trading the 29 pick, its 8 years til we can try to trade for one again, use a 1st to get bogdan and noel for like bertans and powel(or mcgee), cause trading for irving is the all in of all all ins.

The current defense with Dinwiddie and DFS also made me want to puke.

If they did not make a move, Luka walking was an easy choice. They HAD to make this move considering all the other moves they passed up.

This.

[Apz]

Dallas pretty much traded Porzingis for Kyrie and Bertans in a roundabout way. With DFS and some picks included, of course.

Or extend it, mavs traded DSJ, DJ and those

[dirkules_41]

I dislike everything about Kyrie off the floor. He’s an idiot.

That being said, Cuban has finally put a second superstar on the same team. Hasn’t happened in true history of his ownership.

What we gave us is basically nothing in the big picture.

We’ll see how it works out.

Gave up nothing? Bro you gave up some of your most valueable players and that pick is a 29 FRP unprotected you can bet it's gonna be top 10 lol. There is bigger likely hood that Kyrie leaves and you aren't even sure if you wanna re-sign him lmao. This move is gonna be the nail in the coffin for the Luka era here in Mavs bet on it.

I stand by my opinion. DFS and Dinwiddie were role players. A FRP six years from now doesn’t even make be blink.

And this. As much as I liked Dinwiddie this team was godawful when Luka wasn't on the floor and going absolutely nowhere in terms of winning basketball.

[Forbes]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

[Absinthe]

Some weird reactions in this thread. This is effectively a rental and if they don’t resign Kyrie or if it doesn’t work out then the Mavs pretty much have max cap space to work with in the off season.

DFS is a solid player who has developed as much as he’s going to. He will play good defense and occasionally hit open shots but he’s a really good role player. Dinwiddie is good, but probably overpayed and doesn’t play a lick of defense.

I’m curious to see if Dallas can move Bertans or THJ. If they can move Bertans contract to Utah, for example, and attach a first round pick to get them to take on his salary to agree, does Dallas do that? They might as well go all in.

[dirkules_41]

This would have been run past Luka and they would've talked to Kyrie too. So there must be a clear understanding established that this is Lukas team and that they will extend Kyrie immediately - otherwise they wouldn't give up Spence and Picks.

Nothing is ever clear when it comes to Kyrie Irving.

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This is true however Luka as the Mavs Franchise (and owner of the Phoenix Sons) was definitely consulted here. And the media have been talking for days about Nikos and Kidds links with Kyrie, surely those three talked.

[SkyBill40]

In my 23 years as a Mavs fan, first time we had Top end Talent like this. I am excited to see how this second half of the season plays out. If Kyrie doesn’t work we now have a ton of capspace. And we lost two easily replaceable players and a 1st rd pick.

There is no way any Mavs fan should be upset unless they just wanted us to be on the treadmill forever. How else would we have even had flexibility to build around Luka. We would have realistically been waiting until 2024 when NOW we can start this off-season. Hopefully we can get Bertans out of here too this week which is probably impossible

Guess you've forgotten all about having Nash, Nowitzki, and Finley all at the same time? They were better than what you have now for sure.

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[kacey ring]

Good luck Mavs fans. Honestly hope this works out for you. Aside from the obvious concerns, defence might be an issue. I think you should move Wood and some 1sts for someone to shore up the defence. If you could get Turner that might be ideal.

Pacers just extended Turner, so Mavs aren’t getting him this year.

[arkuo]

I’m curious to see if Dallas can move Bertans or THJ. If they can move Bertans contract to Utah, for example, and attach a first round pick to get them to take on his salary to agree, does Dallas do that? They might as well go all in.

Not a lot of quality bigs in the market right now. Nurkic can be had, Jakob Poetl is a free agent. In the lines of those. Nothing fancy.