RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Pacers (Tuesd, 8:30PM EST)

[Maverick41]

Luka is one of the most undisciplined players in the NBA. How wildly his free throws fluctuate (and his weight) is maddening.

They’re going to have to stagger Kyrie and Luka’s minutes. I thought that this was going to be a problem and it is. It’s the only solution. You can’t turn Kyrie into a stand around shooter and Luka is clearly not going to give up ball handling duties.

Actually a solid chunk of the game, they are staggered. The minutes they play together, they play well and this is easily proven with their +/- stats. The minutes they play apart, it hasn't been good.

The problem is NOT offensive fit. It's the turnstile defense, ridiculously bad transition D (often due to complaining) and lack of rim protection.

[Archx]

Luka is one of the most undisciplined players in the NBA. How wildly his free throws fluctuate (and his weight) is maddening.

They’re going to have to stagger Kyrie and Luka’s minutes. I thought that this was going to be a problem and it is. It’s the only solution. You can’t turn Kyrie into a stand around shooter and Luka is clearly not going to give up ball handling duties.

Actually a solid chunk of the game, they are staggered. The minutes they play together, they play well and this is easily proven with their +/- stats. The minutes they play apart, it hasn't been good.

The problem is NOT offensive fit. It's the turnstile defense, ridiculously bad transition D (often due to complaining) and lack of rim protection.

Kidd can't figure out that Luka needs spacers with him on the floor, while Kyrie is great at run and gun+getting to the rim. Instead he is forcing Powell with Doncic who easily gets double teamed. On top of that, Powell plays no real defense at all.

Basically all the right guys for Doncic play with Kyrie at this point. Wood-Maxi-Green-THJ ...or Bullock to some extend. Luka gets Powell, Holiday and Bullock/THJ combo. While THJ sucks on defense and Bullock hasn't shined either. They do make some shots but doesn't help if they can't provide any paint protection.

Holiday is not a starter, i don't know who the hell came up with that idea. Dude literally just got picked up and apparently he's good to go in the starting 5?

This roster is a mess, led by a coach who shouldn't even coach a highschool team.

[arkuo]

Luka is one of the most undisciplined players in the NBA. How wildly his free throws fluctuate (and his weight) is maddening.

They’re going to have to stagger Kyrie and Luka’s minutes. I thought that this was going to be a problem and it is. It’s the only solution. You can’t turn Kyrie into a stand around shooter and Luka is clearly not going to give up ball handling duties.

Actually a solid chunk of the game, they are staggered. The minutes they play together, they play well and this is easily proven with their +/- stats. The minutes they play apart, it hasn't been good.

The problem is NOT offensive fit. It's the turnstile defense, ridiculously bad transition D (often due to complaining) and lack of rim protection.

When Kyrie was with Lebron, they started JR Smith, Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson. So ideally if Josh Green plays defense like JR Smith, then you need to go out and get a rebounder and screener like Tristan Thompson, not to mention Lebron himself who plays elite defense. So to translate that, you need two plus defenders OR one All NBA first team defensive player to compensate.

To get a real difference maker, objectively speaking you need to play the season out and assess where your team can be in the next 5 years with Kyrie and Luka. Ideally you keep Kyrie for another 4 years. Then use the cap space vacated by THJ, Powell, Wood and Bertans to get 1 or 2 plus defenders. One of those needs to be your starting center.

[kacey ring]

Warriors are playing with fire atm to give us some false hope.

This is so pathetic. We don't deserve to be the 6th seed in the west.

Damn, Blazers we’re up 23 and now Dubs are up 6. Wtf!

[Maverick41]

When Kyrie was with Lebron, they started JR Smith, Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson. So ideally if Josh Green plays defense like JR Smith, then you need to go out and get a rebounder and screener like Tristan Thompson, not to mention Lebron himself who plays elite defense. So to translate that, you need two plus defenders OR one All NBA first team defensive player to compensate.

Agreed and just to add to that, Luka needs to play better defense. He now has a great sidekick, no excuse for him to take so many plays off on D. He's the only guy that has big wing size on this roster and has shown good instincts when focused but the effort level just lapses too many times.

[arkuo]

When Kyrie was with Lebron, they started JR Smith, Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson. So ideally if Josh Green plays defense like JR Smith, then you need to go out and get a rebounder and screener like Tristan Thompson, not to mention Lebron himself who plays elite defense. So to translate that, you need two plus defenders OR one All NBA first team defensive player to compensate.

Agreed and just to add to that, Luka needs to play better defense. He now has a great sidekick, no excuse for him to take so many plays off on D. He's the only guy that has big wing size on this roster and has shown good instincts when focused but the effort level just lapses too many times.

It's those moments when he checks out on D that I want the Mavs to sign Dragic just so he can shout at Luka.

[Mavrelous]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

[arkuo]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

Yeah that guy is done. But unfortunately for him, I dont know a team that will also pay him $100M in the summer. So I dont know.

[Mavrelous]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

Yeah that guy is done. But unfortunately for him, I dont know a team that will also pay him $100M in the summer. So I dont know.

He wasn't treated fairly.

[arkuo]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

Yeah that guy is done. But unfortunately for him, I dont know a team that will also pay him $100M in the summer. So I dont know.

He wasn't treated fairly.

Unfortunately for him, yes. But it happens all time in the NBA. Dennis Smith's career was cut short because of Carlisle. But the latter still has a job now. You gotta learn how to play the politics of the game if you're not a star player.

[Ni Da Ye]

Irving was able to win with Luka resting.

Then everything went wrong since Luka's return.

The problem is not solely on Kidd or Luka.

It's simply Luka + Irving not working so far.

1+1<1 is the problem.

[Mavrelous]

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[arkuo]

If we're really splitting hair here, one good thing about this game is at least they got a shot up the final second. That's an improvement over the hot potato passing mess a couple of games ago.

[Darren]

It's quite clear that Powell should have no business playing with Maxi back. The Mavs needs to draw the opposite big away from the paint. And the Mavs need better post defense and rebounding. That being said, it's either Maxi or Wood starting. Green should start Otherwise, the Mavs is too small out that.

[Darren]

I don't get why the Mavs want to overpay Bullock and Powell while alienating Green and Wood.

[ozwizard8]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

Yeah that guy is done. But unfortunately for him, I dont know a team that will also pay him $100M in the summer. So I dont know.

Wood is basically poor men's Whiteside with no defense. Zero mental skills.

Wood was atrocious on defense. Even on offense he **** find ways to be #1 loser out there.
Anytime a game is tight, Wood is turning the ball over. His awareness is at all-time lows. On defense he is a worse defender than Kyrie-Luka. And unfortunately he plays Center...

No one is paying him $100m in the summer. Rockets couldn't find a trade for him a whole year. Then traded for some late 1st round pick and salary dump. No one thought Wood is good to have even at his $13m/year deal.

Now it became too obvious. Wood may not get a 4-year deal at all. And his rate at $13m/year did not produce much for any team. Dont expect it to go up to $25m/year. Atrocious defense, bad teammate/stat padder, terrible with every coach he works with.

[Absinthe]

Mavs fans better thank the heavens that they didn’t extend Wood. He is a fantastic offensive player who can’t play a lick of defense and can’t even set a screen properly. He had the lowest plus-minus on the team this past game. They should have shipped him out at the trade deadline but I doubt anyone was interested.

[ozwizard8]

I don't get why the Mavs want to overpay Bullock and Powell while alienating Green and Wood.

Wood obviously sucks on defense. Even on offense with TOs when the game is tight.

For his 8 year career, he hated every one of his coaches, he never had good chemistry with his teammates—career journeyman.

Seriously stop getting affected by couple made points, 3s. He gives up more. Worthless.

[arkuo]

Apparently Wood got subbed out and went straight to the locker room.

Yeah that guy is done. But unfortunately for him, I dont know a team that will also pay him $100M in the summer. So I dont know.

Wood is basically poor men's Whiteside with no defense. Zero mental skills.

Wood was atrocious on defense. Even on offense he **** find ways to be #1 loser out there.
Anytime a game is tight, Wood is turning the ball over. His awareness is at all-time lows. On defense he is a worse defender than Kyrie-Luka. And unfortunately he plays Center...

No one is paying him $100m in the summer. Rockets couldn't find a trade for him a whole year. Then traded for some late 1st round pick and salary dump. No one thought Wood is good to have even at his $13m/year deal.

Now it became too obvious. Wood may not get a 4-year deal at all. And his rate at $13m/year did not produce much for any team. Dont expect it to go up to $25m/year. Atrocious defense, bad teammate/stat padder, terrible with every coach he works with.

His agent seems to think he's worth Jerami Grant money. To which I would wish them good luck.

[ozwizard8]

Mavs fans better thank the heavens that they didn’t extend Wood. He is a fantastic offensive player who can’t play a lick of defense and can’t even set a screen properly. He had the lowest plus-minus on the team this past game. They should have shipped him out at the trade deadline but I doubt anyone was interested.

Wood had $26m/2 year deal. Supposedly a bargain deal for a center.

And no team wanted him. Mavs get him for almost free. I mean to offload dead salaries, we would probably give up unprotected 1st anyway. Houston also traded him to a divisional rival says a lot. It's like sending contaminated goods. A trojan.