Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread

[Mr B]

So what role does Grimes play? Does acquiring him mean they might now be looking to move Hardy or Green?

He plays the Green role, Hardy is the THJ role, though he sucked too many games.
Green should be gone IMO

Hoping they trade Green and Maxi,get the upgrades...then it's an awesome offseason

Am I right in saying that the Mavs have 2 FRP’s to trade? And if they do, what value do those picks really have in today’s NBA? Are 2 FRP’s/Green (or Hardy) enough to trade for a good wing? Or would the Mavs be better off using their assets in order to dump salary (like they just did with THJ)?

As for Maxi, I would keep an eye on the Knicks as a team that could show interest in him. They are about to lose Hartenstein to free agency and are said to be looking to dump Mitchell (I’m guessing for salary reasons). Maxi has history with Brunson and he’s fairly cheap.

[arkuo]

Vegas has good odds for Dallas to land one of KCP or Klay Thompson.

[Mr B]

Most importantly: THJ does not step one single second on the floor for the Mavs anymore
Secondly: got rid of his contact

Not to mention we don’t have to hear his dad running his mouth again either.

[Mr B]

I wanna see Nico make a big swing for someone like Jonathan Isaac.

Kleber + Green + '25 FRP

Isaac can be played on a minutes restriction since he will be sharing that PF spot with PJ anyway. Keep him healthy for a playoff run. Isaac can shut down anyone.

That’s not a terrible idea. Would Orlando do that though?

[Mr B]

Does Tobias Harris still make sense even with Grimes and DJJ back?

I would say yes because he’s a big wing that can score. I read the other day that Milwaukee will be looking to shake things up this off season. Is there a chance they make Middleton available? Would the Mavs have enough to trade for him?

[arkuo]

I wanna see Nico make a big swing for someone like Jonathan Isaac.

Kleber + Green + '25 FRP

Isaac can be played on a minutes restriction since he will be sharing that PF spot with PJ anyway. Keep him healthy for a playoff run. Isaac can shut down anyone.

That’s not a terrible idea. Would Orlando do that though?

The Orlando situation with Isaac is interesting because he comes off the bench there too with Wagner and Banchero taking both forward spots. If they decide to move to another direction, I think we can be players for Isaac. The guy is great on defense.

[Mavrelous]

Remember the Luka 60/20/10 game? It was the Quentin Grimes games until those crazy last 30 seconds of regulation.

[Mr B]

I wanna see Nico make a big swing for someone like Jonathan Isaac.

Kleber + Green + '25 FRP

Isaac can be played on a minutes restriction since he will be sharing that PF spot with PJ anyway. Keep him healthy for a playoff run. Isaac can shut down anyone.

That’s not a terrible idea. Would Orlando do that though?

The Orlando situation with Isaac is interesting because he comes off the bench there too with Wagner and Banchero taking both forward spots. If they decide to move to another direction, I think we can be players for Isaac. The guy is great on defense.

Yea and we actually have seen cases where a player who’s injury prone when they’re young become less injury prone as they get a little older (bone development I guess?). Kurt Thomas and Jabari Parker are two examples. Isaac will be 27 just after the season starts, maybe he’s entering that part of his life? I’d be all over it though if Orlando made him available in a trade.

[Archx]

He plays the Green role, Hardy is the THJ role, though he sucked too many games.
Green should be gone IMO

Hoping they trade Green and Maxi,get the upgrades...then it's an awesome offseason

Am I right in saying that the Mavs have 2 FRP’s to trade? And if they do, what value do those picks really have in today’s NBA? Are 2 FRP’s/Green (or Hardy) enough to trade for a good wing? Or would the Mavs be better off using their assets in order to dump salary (like they just did with THJ)?

As for Maxi, I would keep an eye on the Knicks as a team that could show interest in him. They are about to lose Hartenstein to free agency and are said to be looking to dump Mitchell (I’m guessing for salary reasons). Maxi has history with Brunson and he’s fairly cheap.

They can trade 25 1st and 31 1st.

TLDR, best offer Mavs can still make this offseason is a package of Hardy, Green +25/31 picks. Since we know that Nico wants the core to stay together. Any other trade involving Maxi would basically be dumping his salary.

[Archx]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

[joesha1698]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

Maxi + Green are due like 25 million and some change. Green with like 3 years left and Maxi with 2. I'm not sure about the salary cap situation but I thought a sign and trade wouldn't affect our mid level exception b/c were trading contracts for contracts? Maybe someone in the know can explain.

Anyways, I would probably accept Klay Thompson at "34 years" over Maxi and Josh Green. If his experience and shooting can help us win 1 or 2 rings, it's worth the trade. That 3rd year, (depending on his health) he can be moved. You just have to keep the deal to the salary your giving up. Right around 75 mi/3 years. (what draymon is getting at 34 years old)

[joesha1698]

Side note: Josh Green's and Maxi's contract is not bad at all. Josh Green at 12-14 for the next 3 seasons is a good deal for a team. He's a 3 and D guy that is young. If a good coach can help him straighten out his bad decisions at times and just be a more discipline player, your getting a steal. Plus, Maxi is a good floor spacer in limited minutes - and will be an expiring deal the next season - setting the right team up to use him as just that in a bigger trade. For a team like Denver (potentially losing KCP) they would be unwise not to consider a trade for a Josh Green, imo.

I actually think Josh Green + Maxi and a 1st round pick is like the perfect mix to grab a veteran player. You get the young guy, the soon to be expiring / role player in maxi, and you get a future pick. I think we can leverage this well for a team that is looking for a replacement at SG/expiring contract/ and a 1st round pick.

[arkuo]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

Maxi + Green are due like 25 million and some change. Green with like 3 years left and Maxi with 2. I'm not sure about the salary cap situation but I thought a sign and trade wouldn't affect our mid level exception b/c were trading contracts for contracts? Maybe someone in the know can explain.

Anyways, I would probably accept Klay Thompson at "34 years" over Maxi and Josh Green. If his experience and shooting can help us win 1 or 2 rings, it's worth the trade. That 3rd year, (depending on his health) he can be moved. You just have to keep the deal to the salary your giving up. Right around 75 mi/3 years. (what draymon is getting at 34 years old)

Who would be better for the Mavs at this point, Klay or Jerami Grant?

[joesha1698]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

Maxi + Green are due like 25 million and some change. Green with like 3 years left and Maxi with 2. I'm not sure about the salary cap situation but I thought a sign and trade wouldn't affect our mid level exception b/c were trading contracts for contracts? Maybe someone in the know can explain.

Anyways, I would probably accept Klay Thompson at "34 years" over Maxi and Josh Green. If his experience and shooting can help us win 1 or 2 rings, it's worth the trade. That 3rd year, (depending on his health) he can be moved. You just have to keep the deal to the salary your giving up. Right around 75 mi/3 years. (what draymon is getting at 34 years old)

Who would be better for the Mavs at this point, Klay or Jerami Grant?

I probably would take the younger player in Grant. He'll be 34 at the end of his contract. Grant is also the better-all-around player at this point when you include his age, shooting, and scoring ability, defense.

[BeiBeau]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

If Klay is gonna come in a shoot 40% of the bench on a **** you contract then I’m happy with it. Send Maxi to GS in a sign and trade?

But if it’s Klay instead of DJJ I think I’m unhappy. I think no matter what Klay should come off the bench. Grimes or Green should start over him.

[Archx]

If Stein is reporting it, Nico is 100% chasing Klay. But i don't know how he'll resign DJJ, who i think would be more important than a washed up Klay.

[Stein] League sources tell The Stein Line that the Dallas Mavericks, with some newfound financial flexibility after securing the Tim Hardaway Jr.-to-Detroit trade … are another team intent on exploring the feasibility of signing Thompson once he makes it to free agency.

If Klay is gonna come in a shoot 40% of the bench on a **** you contract then I’m happy with it. Send Maxi to GS in a sign and trade?

But if it’s Klay instead of DJJ I think I’m unhappy. I think no matter what Klay should come off the bench. Grimes or Green should start over him.

Yep, not signing DJJ for Klay would be very dumb but i'm sure Nico knows that. I have no clue how much money Klay actually wants but i also know GSW are in a very tough financial situation. They can't retain all their core players anymore.

[41Dirk41]

Klay looked like gassed this season...

[Archx]

Here is the updated cap situation after the trade.

Mavs can use a combination of these two exceptions to that total for two FA
- Up to 12.9M using the Full MLE (4 years max)
- Up to 4.6M using BAE (2 years max)

[BeiBeau]

Here is the updated cap situation after the trade.

Mavs can use a combination of these two exceptions to that total for two FA
- Up to 12.9M using the Full MLE (4 years max)
- Up to 4.6M using BAE (2 years max)

I don’t think DJJ taking slightly less that then full MLE is out of the question. Something similar to what Divincenzo got last offseason but accounting for the cap increase. So like 4/50. If we do that and turn Powell into a minimum we would have the full BAE as well. But even without the full BAE we might be able to get a solid player on a 2 year 8 million dollar deal.

[Archx]

Here is the updated cap situation after the trade.

Mavs can use a combination of these two exceptions to that total for two FA
- Up to 12.9M using the Full MLE (4 years max)
- Up to 4.6M using BAE (2 years max)

I don’t think DJJ taking slightly less that then full MLE is out of the question. Something similar to what Divincenzo got last offseason but accounting for the cap increase. So like 4/50. If we do that and turn Powell into a minimum we would have the full BAE as well. But even without the full BAE we might be able to get a solid player on a 2 year 8 million dollar deal.

Yeah, BAE contracts are usually reserved to sign that 10th or 11th roster spot, end of the bench player. It's hard to get any quality with that offer. Depends on years played in the league, that's slightly more than some vet min players usually get at the end of the free agency. You need to be a bit lucky...

MLE is a different story, you can potentially sign a really solid role player but in Mavs case, we basically know it's going to be DJJ.