Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[MassimoPayne]

I think we only make minor moves and see what happens and wait till a nervous wannabe contender overpays for PJ or DG.

[daoneandonly]

I think it's too pricey for Cha. Three FRP for an aging always injured AD wouldn't be a wise move for them. No Brainer for Dallas

Yeah I think so too. Probably needs to take out the 27 CHA FRP to make it even realistically.

I know Nico won't do this trade but it's my preferred direction of the team.

don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def

Just wait until I win the lottery, then I'll be happy and live a better life. Nice thought right?

AD play a full season is all that needs to be said, it's never happened, it never will happen. He doesnt care enough to fight through injuries.

[daoneandonly]

don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def

Mavs fans feel AD is Otto Porter Jr. because a lot have a crush on Luka. So the trade feels like a breakup especially for the emotionally invested ones. It will pass eventually. Like any breakup, it needs time.

Pacers fans would feel the same if they traded Haliburton, Suns fans would be in the same boat if they traded Booker. Just fans being fans.

I know luka will always be in Mavs hero and trade away Luka is Nico fault, but there's not fault on AD. I am Irving fans but I also break my heart when Luka was traded, I cannot forgive Nico, but it is time to move on

Except AD does deserve fault for all the games he misses. Surely eh can do something to better condition his body and even play through some of the injuries that have sidelined him for game after game after game over his career. The dude is weak mentally and physically. Not to mention him not wanting to play center where it would benefit his teams most. He's selfish.

[Teffer10]

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.

Why wait 4 or 5 years to start the rebuild process when our BEST asset is 18 yo?

People need to look at our roster and see that we are not a Kyrie away from being a champion.
We are a star veteran piece besides Kyrie away from being a champion, and in order to get that star veteran, it will take every future asset we have to acquire one.
That I do not want to see this team do.

I mean seriously people, does anyone on this board think we have anywhere close to a roster that can compete with OKC for a championship?

Trade every player over 27 with the exception of Kyrie unless he opts out and then try to do some type of deal that yields us young assets if he doesn't want to be on a team that is trying to rebuild.

[daoneandonly]

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.

Why wait 4 or 5 years to start the rebuild process when our BEST asset is 18 yo?

People need to look at our roster and see that we are not a Kyrie away from being a champion.
We are a star veteran piece besides Kyrie away from being a champion, and in order to get that star veteran, it will take every future asset we have to acquire one.
That I do not want to see this team do.

I mean seriously people, does anyone on this board think we have anywhere close to a roster that can compete with OKC for a championship?

Trade every player over 27 with the exception of Kyrie unless he opts out and then try to do some type of deal that yields us young assets if he doesn't want to be on a team that is trying to rebuild.

Yes. The keepers are Flagg, PJ, Lively, Kyrie, and Christie. I'd like to keep Naji as well unless its an offer too good to pass up. The team should actively be trying to trade AD, and only trade Gaff if there's another deal for a backup 5 lined up.

But please get off of AD, Klay, Martin, and Hardy.

[Mr B]

Stein is reporting that Sweeney is no longer a candidate for the Suns.

That is great news for the Mavs and Cooper Flagg.

[arkuo]

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.

Why wait 4 or 5 years to start the rebuild process when our BEST asset is 18 yo?

People need to look at our roster and see that we are not a Kyrie away from being a champion.
We are a star veteran piece besides Kyrie away from being a champion, and in order to get that star veteran, it will take every future asset we have to acquire one.
That I do not want to see this team do.

I mean seriously people, does anyone on this board think we have anywhere close to a roster that can compete with OKC for a championship?

Trade every player over 27 with the exception of Kyrie unless he opts out and then try to do some type of deal that yields us young assets if he doesn't want to be on a team that is trying to rebuild.

I mean sure. But as a betting man, I'm not taking bets on Nico leaving in the summer no matter how many people want it to happen. Fire Nico has been mentioned everyday since the trade. Nothing I can say that hasn't been said online. I just don't see it happening. Lebron probably has a higher chance of signing with Dallas rather than Nico leaving. But of course if you want to create trade scenarios noting Nico's departure then that's fine.

[arkuo]

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.

Why wait 4 or 5 years to start the rebuild process when our BEST asset is 18 yo?

People need to look at our roster and see that we are not a Kyrie away from being a champion.
We are a star veteran piece besides Kyrie away from being a champion, and in order to get that star veteran, it will take every future asset we have to acquire one.
That I do not want to see this team do.

I mean seriously people, does anyone on this board think we have anywhere close to a roster that can compete with OKC for a championship?

Trade every player over 27 with the exception of Kyrie unless he opts out and then try to do some type of deal that yields us young assets if he doesn't want to be on a team that is trying to rebuild.

Yes. The keepers are Flagg, PJ, Lively, Kyrie, and Christie. I'd like to keep Naji as well unless its an offer too good to pass up. The team should actively be trying to trade AD, and only trade Gaff if there's another deal for a backup 5 lined up.

But please get off of AD, Klay, Martin, and Hardy.

They should. But they won't.

Klay has a higher chance of getting traded having a contract that's built that way. You can combine contracts with his as he's not earning the max.

[Mr B]

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.

Why wait 4 or 5 years to start the rebuild process when our BEST asset is 18 yo?

People need to look at our roster and see that we are not a Kyrie away from being a champion.
We are a star veteran piece besides Kyrie away from being a champion, and in order to get that star veteran, it will take every future asset we have to acquire one.
That I do not want to see this team do.

I mean seriously people, does anyone on this board think we have anywhere close to a roster that can compete with OKC for a championship?

Trade every player over 27 with the exception of Kyrie unless he opts out and then try to do some type of deal that yields us young assets if he doesn't want to be on a team that is trying to rebuild.

I mean sure. But as a betting man, I'm not taking bets on Nico leaving in the summer no matter how many people want it to happen. Fire Nico has been mentioned everyday since the trade. Nothing I can say that hasn't been said online. I just don't see it happening. Lebron probably has a higher chance of signing with Dallas rather than Nico leaving. But of course if you want to create trade scenarios noting Nico's departure then that's fine.

I’ve been saying this since the trade. Nico isn’t going anywhere. The owners trust him (regardless of what some fans think) and they have a plan in place for a new arena that they are clearly not going to divert from. They are moving into a new arena in 2032. I expect Nico and the current ownership group to be around for at least 1 year past that before they sell the team and we start over with a new ownership group and GM.

Cooper Flagg should be entering his prime by then. Whoever the new billionaire owners are at that point will have a top 5 player to build around (fingers crossed).

[arkuo]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

[fuller4379]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Kevin Durant is fool's gold. The Suns traded Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, four unprotected first rounder picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and a 2028 pick swap for him. This was one of the big reasons for the Suns downfall in the last few years. I would prefer going for someone younger than him.

[arkuo]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Kevin Durant is fool's gold. The Suns traded Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, four unprotected first rounder picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and a 2028 pick swap for him. This was one of the big reasons for the Suns downfall in the last few years. I would prefer going for someone younger than him.

I agree. I just think Nico has tendencies to go with this direction. Which I don't like. KD is an expiring so you don't have to keep him long. I kinda see the point with shedding contracts. But I dont like the fit.

If it came down to KD vs Herb Jones, who do you guys want?

[Michaellam1987]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

To match the salary, Sengun is likely in the deal, packing with another player, such Brooks, together with return of some of PHX’s picks

[Mr B]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

I hope this is a multi team deal where the Mavs can also shed salary. Not sure how that would be possible but it would be great for the Mavs.

[Mr B]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Kevin Durant is fool's gold. The Suns traded Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, four unprotected first rounder picks (2023, 2025, 2027 and 2029) and a 2028 pick swap for him. This was one of the big reasons for the Suns downfall in the last few years. I would prefer going for someone younger than him.

I agree. I just think Nico has tendencies to go with this direction. Which I don't like. KD is an expiring so you don't have to keep him long. I kinda see the point with shedding contracts. But I dont like the fit.

If it came down to KD vs Herb Jones, who do you guys want?

Regardless of what people think about him KD actually would fit a need (scorer) more than Herb Jones would. KD is also clearly the better offensive player (by far). KD isn’t going to give you much defense though. If Nico wasn’t lying about why he traded Luka then there is zero reason he should have interest in KD. He’s just as bad as Luka on defense and Luka is a better offensive player.

With that said as much as the Mavs need offense I’d kind of like to see them attack the league with a glut of defensive wings. PJ/Flagg/Herb/Naji with Lively and AD behind them and Kyrie and whoever else they bring in as PG seems pretty formidable to me.

[Mr B]

So what happens if Nico actually surprises us and trades AD and keeps PJ and Gafford? Won’t ever happen I know, but if it did…

[ACMFFL]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Yeah, I think this is still mr. Harrison #1 plan for this summer.
Something like:
CHI: Martin + Hardy + #29
DAL: Durant + Lonzo
PHX: Klay + PJ + Gaff + Naji + 2029 LAL 1st

Davis / Lively / Powell
Durant / min vet
Flagg / Christie
Ball / Exum
Irving / Paul or Tyus / Williams

Honestly I hate it. I get that Flagg could improve even more playing in a winning context next to HOFer such as KD/AD/Kai/CP3, but I still think this isn't the direction we should take.
On paper that's a legit title contender, a tiny part of me is a bit intrigued, but AD/KD/Kai health scare the s*** out of me, they aren't reliable at all, I'm super nervous entering the season with that fragile big3.

At least it's still a much better plan than trading Flagg+ for Giannis or any other superstar not named Wemby/Shai.
Give me KD over Giannis every day of the week and twice on sunday, Durant gives them a better shot at the title than Giannis considering fit and how much expensive the Greek will be.

[ACMFFL]

So what happens if Nico actually surprises us and trades AD and keeps PJ and Gafford? Won’t ever happen I know, but if it did…

Oh please, that's my dream scenario.
It's the best way to win back trust in Dallas.

[arkuo]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Yeah, I think this is still mr. Harrison #1 plan for this summer.
Something like:
CHI: Martin + Hardy + #29
DAL: Durant + Lonzo
PHX: Klay + PJ + Gaff + Naji + 2029 LAL 1st

Davis / Lively / Powell
Durant / min vet
Flagg / Christie
Ball / Exum
Irving / Paul or Tyus / Williams

Honestly I hate it. I get that Flagg could improve even more playing in a winning context next to HOFer such as KD/AD/Kai/CP3, but I still think this isn't the direction we should take.
On paper that's a legit title contender, a tiny part of me is a bit intrigued, but AD/KD/Kai health scare the s*** out of me, they aren't reliable at all, I'm super nervous entering the season with that fragile big3.

At least it's still a much better plan than trading Flagg+ for Giannis or any other superstar not named Wemby/Shai.
Give me KD over Giannis every day of the week and twice on sunday, Durant gives them a better shot at the title than Giannis considering fit and how much expensive the Greek will be.

The thing with Durant that a lot of fans fail to see is he is an expiring contract. You use him for next year when you do not have a secondary playmaker, and you use him specifically for half the year when Kyrie is out. He is still an expiring deal which means, you open up your salary cap to sign guys like Lu Dort, Herb Jones, Norm Powell, Mikal Bridges, Coby White, Austin Reaves if their teams can't afford them. Durant is a $54M expiring deal. A lot of fans are just looking at the now. Durant/ AD/ Kyrie / Flagg can compete with OKC. And if it doesn't work, let Durant's deal expire and sign one of those guys above, like Austin Reaves for example. There is very little downside IMO. You are going to lose PJ and Gaff anyway if they demand market value for their new contracts.

[Mr B]

ESPN is reporting that PHX is prioritizing a center in a KD trade.

I have a gut feel that Nico is on these trade talks for Gaff and PJ. KD is an expiring so his time will run out with his contract in Dallas. KD does trump anyone you can get for Gaff right now, objectively speaking. And it brings you under the cap (?) after.

If it does come to fruition, AD better play center.

Yeah, I think this is still mr. Harrison #1 plan for this summer.
Something like:
CHI: Martin + Hardy + #29
DAL: Durant + Lonzo
PHX: Klay + PJ + Gaff + Naji + 2029 LAL 1st

Davis / Lively / Powell
Durant / min vet
Flagg / Christie
Ball / Exum
Irving / Paul or Tyus / Williams

Honestly I hate it. I get that Flagg could improve even more playing in a winning context next to HOFer such as KD/AD/Kai/CP3, but I still think this isn't the direction we should take.
On paper that's a legit title contender, a tiny part of me is a bit intrigued, but AD/KD/Kai health scare the s*** out of me, they aren't reliable at all, I'm super nervous entering the season with that fragile big3.

At least it's still a much better plan than trading Flagg+ for Giannis or any other superstar not named Wemby/Shai.
Give me KD over Giannis every day of the week and twice on sunday, Durant gives them a better shot at the title than Giannis considering fit and how much expensive the Greek will be.

Maybe I’m just being optimistic but I’m thinking if worst case scenario happens and the wheels fall off all the old guys they would still have a pretty formidable group of young guys that would get a ton of minutes in Lively/Flagg/Christie/Williams/Edwards/OMax/Kai Jones, assuming they bring Edwards and Jones back.