Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread

[HMFFL]

This is getting scary now. Looks like Mavs getting close to signing Klay. But then it would be incredibly difficult to resign DJJ. I don't like this.

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Klay would be a great addition. I know there are many here that have a different opinion, but I don't need many negatives by adding Klay.

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[arkuo]

Someone correct me if Im wrong. Klay would have to be a S&T right?

If that's the case, I'd personally prefer Jerami Grant due to age, athleticism. Portland may want those 2 first round picks though. But he's 6'9 and shoots 46% on corner threes. No slouch at shooting either. Klay is a bigger name. Gotta give him that. If you can get Klay for cheap then yes by all means, I'm in too.

[GermanFan120]

DJJ >>>>>> Klay

[Maverick41]

Something of note is that Klay was awesome last year in the games he played off the bench. He averaged 20/3/3 on 43%, from 3 in 27 minutes.

THJ also averaged 27 minutes last year and averaged 14/3/2 on 35% from 3.

I see why some people may not prefer Klay over some other options (me included) but his shooting prowess could really take our offense to the next level.

[GermanFan120]

Something of note is that Klay was awesome last year in the games he played off the bench. He averaged 20/3/3 on 43%, from 3 in 27 minutes.

THJ also averaged 27 minutes last year and averaged 14/3/2 on 35% from 3.

I see why some people may not prefer Klay over some other options (me included) but his shooting prowess could really take our offense to the next level.

Klay's problem at this point is not his capabilities. But his ego.

Hard no thanks.

[Archx]

Someone correct me if Im wrong. Klay would have to be a S&T right?

If that's the case, I'd personally prefer Jerami Grant due to age, athleticism. Portland may want those 2 first round picks though. But he's 6'9 and shoots 46% on corner threes. No slouch at shooting either. Klay is a bigger name. Gotta give him that. If you can get Klay for cheap then yes by all means, I'm in too.

They can straight sign him into MLE but i'm sure he's fishing for a bigger contract. Or maybe he just wants more years than GSW is offering. But then resigning DJJ will be next to impossible.

Another option is S&T and Mavs keep MLE for DJJ. Via S&T then Green is 100% gone.

On the other hand, i have no clue what's GSW current financial situation, if they're above 2nd apron after resigning Klay, they can't do S&T, so Mavs would have to use MLE on him.

[Mavrelous]

Klay can still shoot with the best of them, he can't create the little separation he used to create (irrelevant for the Mavs), but he also can't defend anymore.
He's still a very smart player, but he'll cost to come, my guess is S&T with Green going to either GS or 3rd team.
I don't see a scenario where Mavs tagert more than 1 of DJJ, KCP and Klay, and my preference is KCP TBH...

[Mavrelous]

Someone correct me if Im wrong. Klay would have to be a S&T right?

If that's the case, I'd personally prefer Jerami Grant due to age, athleticism. Portland may want those 2 first round picks though. But he's 6'9 and shoots 46% on corner threes. No slouch at shooting either. Klay is a bigger name. Gotta give him that. If you can get Klay for cheap then yes by all means, I'm in too.

One of Grant or PJ will start, it can't be both, and PJ is good 4, it's not a position I'd look to improve.
Assuming Mavs can get the Nuggets to bite on S&T, and send Green to a 3rd team
Kyrie/Hardy/
KCP/Grimes/AJ
Luka/Exum/
PJ/Maxi/OMax/Morris
Gafford/Lively/Powell

is good enough lineup IMO, sign a vet PG to whatever room you still have left under the Apron (Dinwiddie, CP3).

[arkuo]

Klay can still shoot with the best of them, he can't create the little separation he used to create (irrelevant for the Mavs), but he also can't defend anymore.
He's still a very smart player, but he'll cost to come, my guess is S&T with Green going to either GS or 3rd team.
I don't see a scenario where Mavs tagert more than 1 of DJJ, KCP and Klay, and my preference is KCP TBH...

My ideal scenario is Mavs get to sign DJJ to a little less than the MLE of 12M. Get the Quentin Grimes thing done on paper. Use the BAE of 4.5M on DSJ maybe. Then lock in Green + Kleber + 2 FRPs for Grant.

[arkuo]

Someone correct me if Im wrong. Klay would have to be a S&T right?

If that's the case, I'd personally prefer Jerami Grant due to age, athleticism. Portland may want those 2 first round picks though. But he's 6'9 and shoots 46% on corner threes. No slouch at shooting either. Klay is a bigger name. Gotta give him that. If you can get Klay for cheap then yes by all means, I'm in too.

One of Grant or PJ will start, it can't be both, and PJ is good 4, it's not a position I'd look to improve.
Assuming Mavs can get the Nuggets to bite on S&T, and send Green to a 3rd team
Kyrie/Hardy/
KCP/Grimes/AJ
Luka/Exum/
PJ/Maxi/OMax/Morris
Gafford/Lively/Powell

is good enough lineup IMO, sign a vet PG to whatever room you still have left under the Apron (Dinwiddie, CP3).

I've watched enough of Grant to confirm he can play the 3. He's quicker than Paul George is with driving to the basket. He's 6'9 and can switch on to guards on defense. If you by any chance get Portland to agree, I think you start him and PJ, and have each one stand on each corner for the kick out pass. Grant as a 1st option is meh, but as a 3rd or 4th option with a team that has Luka, Kyrie and Lively is a massive upgrade.

My only preference for Grant is with Klay, you can probably squeeze 2 years out of him while you can probably do 5 more years with Grant.

[Archx]

Assuming Mavs can get the Nuggets to bite on S&T, and send Green to a 3rd team.

They can't. Nuggets fans are saying their team is above 2nd apron when KCP signs any deal, so S&T won't be possible.

[Mavrelous]

Assuming Mavs can get the Nuggets to bite on S&T, and send Green to a 3rd team.

They can't. Nuggets fans are saying their team is above 2nd apron when KCP signs any deal, so S&T won't be possible.

They are wrong...
DEN won't be taking any salary in this S&T, regardless, they are below tax which ia below the 1st Apron.

[Archx]

Assuming Mavs can get the Nuggets to bite on S&T, and send Green to a 3rd team.

They can't. Nuggets fans are saying their team is above 2nd apron when KCP signs any deal, so S&T won't be possible.

They are wrong...
DEN won't be taking any salary in this S&T, regardless, they are below tax which ia below the 1st Apron.

This part is a bit unclear. But when Nuggets sign KCP (which they have to) it will go against the cap, salaries have to come back matching. So that effectively goes against the same cap which KCP occupied. Therefore they're still above 2nd apron.

We know KCP's contract will be around 20M, that's why it's a bit confusing and difficult.

This is directly from the rulebook.

Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron.

Correct me if wrong but that's how i view it according to the rules.

[Mavrelous]

They can't. Nuggets fans are saying their team is above 2nd apron when KCP signs any deal, so S&T won't be possible.

They are wrong...
DEN won't be taking any salary in this S&T, regardless, they are below tax which ia below the 1st Apron.

This part is a bit unclear. But when Nuggets sign KCP (which they have to) it will go against the cap, salaries have to come back matching. So that effectively goes against the same cap which KCP occupied. Therefore they're still above 2nd apron.

We know KCP's contract will be around 20M, that's why it's a bit confusing and difficult.

This is directly from the rulebook.

Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron.

Correct me if wrong but that's how i view it according to the rules.

Mavs already dumped THJ into cap space, deal isn't official yet, if 3rd team takes Green into MLE or cap space, Nuggets send KCP and get a pick back, nothing else.
There is no need for DEN to receive any salary.

[Archx]

They are wrong...
DEN won't be taking any salary in this S&T, regardless, they are below tax which ia below the 1st Apron.

This part is a bit unclear. But when Nuggets sign KCP (which they have to) it will go against the cap, salaries have to come back matching. So that effectively goes against the same cap which KCP occupied. Therefore they're still above 2nd apron.

We know KCP's contract will be around 20M, that's why it's a bit confusing and difficult.

This is directly from the rulebook.

Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron.

Correct me if wrong but that's how i view it according to the rules.

Mavs already dumped THJ into cap space, deal isn't official yet, if 3rd team takes Green into MLE or cap space, Nuggets send KCP and get a pick back, nothing else.
There is no need for DEN to receive any salary.

Oh, yeah of course, but that is a completely different trade scenario then

Would you really want to lose Green and 1st for KCP?

[Mavrelous]

This part is a bit unclear. But when Nuggets sign KCP (which they have to) it will go against the cap, salaries have to come back matching. So that effectively goes against the same cap which KCP occupied. Therefore they're still above 2nd apron.

We know KCP's contract will be around 20M, that's why it's a bit confusing and difficult.

This is directly from the rulebook.

Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron.

Correct me if wrong but that's how i view it according to the rules.

Mavs already dumped THJ into cap space, deal isn't official yet, if 3rd team takes Green into MLE or cap space, Nuggets send KCP and get a pick back, nothing else.
There is no need for DEN to receive any salary.

Oh, yeah of course, but that is a completely different trade scenario then

Would you really want to lose Green and 1st for KCP?

Green yes, pick is 2nd rd, not 1st.
This is like the Grant Williams S&T last year.
KCP is an upgrade over both Green and DJJ

[Mr B]

This is getting scary now. Looks like Mavs getting close to signing Klay. But then it would be incredibly difficult to resign DJJ. I don't like this.

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I would think if Klay is coming to Dallasnit would be in a sign and trade. No way Dallas can afford to pay him. By all accounts he wants quite a bit more than the full MLE. So if they trade existing assets (matching salaries) for Klay then wouldn’t they still have the MLE to use on a guy like DJJ?

[41Dirk41]

Something of note is that Klay was awesome last year in the games he played off the bench. He averaged 20/3/3 on 43%, from 3 in 27 minutes.

THJ also averaged 27 minutes last year and averaged 14/3/2 on 35% from 3.

I see why some people may not prefer Klay over some other options (me included) but his shooting prowess could really take our offense to the next level.

Klay in the THJ role is ok... Starter? No way.

[mfletcher4177]

I trust Nico. He has been phenomenal during his tenure. My gut is telling me that we end up with Klay Thompson. He literally fixes our problem from last year which was scoring. If he is ok coming off the bench, he will still get a lot of minutes. He's been known as a shooter his entire career. Replace, Exum, DJJ, Hardaway, Hardy shooting open threes in the finals with Klay, and the finals are different. That was our biggest issue in the finals, matching Boston's three point shooting. I am not a huge fan of Klay at his age but what better option is out there?

There's a possibility that Klay can turn into our Ray Allen at a late age.

[Archx]

This is getting scary now. Looks like Mavs getting close to signing Klay. But then it would be incredibly difficult to resign DJJ. I don't like this.

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I would think if Klay is coming to Dallasnit would be in a sign and trade. No way Dallas can afford to pay him. By all accounts he wants quite a bit more than the full MLE. So if they trade existing assets (matching salaries) for Klay then wouldn’t they still have the MLE to use on a guy like DJJ?

It would depend on the salaries and how far below the apron they would remain after the trade. The most realistic scenario is, they'll go above which would then leave them only with TAX MLE.

The only realistic players up for trades remain Maxi (11M) and Green (14M). But Maxi is basically negative asset at this point, so it wouldn't be so easy to move him.