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Archx wrote:Wtf is going on with the Suns? That team thinks they're Lakers now or what? They want everyone. But this just means that Suns would apparently do trade with Mavs since a lot of people thought they would never do trades with Mavs after that "famous" playoff series.
daoneandonly wrote:dirkforpres wrote:HMFFL wrote:Phoenix will laugh and hangup. We will continue to lack talent if you think that package gains us Ayton. It doesn't make sense for Phoenix to trade Ayton from a talent perspective.
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I dont think they package is as far off as you make it seem. Phoenix has zero leverage in any trade involving Ayton, as its known leaguewide that they essentially have to trade him. I do think theyre going to want Kleber in any deal for him though involving the Mavs, so im thinking Hardaway and Kleber for Ayton should be the offer. If they wanted to include Josh Green for Torrey Craig, i would be fine with that too
Still be hesitant to include Kleber unless they take McGee too. So THJ/Kleber/McGee, they get 3 rotational pieces. Dallas gets AYton, and maybe Craig if he's not a FA
Mavrelous wrote:daoneandonly wrote:dirkforpres wrote:
I dont think they package is as far off as you make it seem. Phoenix has zero leverage in any trade involving Ayton, as its known leaguewide that they essentially have to trade him. I do think theyre going to want Kleber in any deal for him though involving the Mavs, so im thinking Hardaway and Kleber for Ayton should be the offer. If they wanted to include Josh Green for Torrey Craig, i would be fine with that too
Still be hesitant to include Kleber unless they take McGee too. So THJ/Kleber/McGee, they get 3 rotational pieces. Dallas gets AYton, and maybe Craig if he's not a FA
I'd do THJ/kleber/Mcgee in a split second...
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Archx wrote:Wtf is going on with the Suns? That team thinks they're Lakers now or what? They want everyone. But this just means that Suns would apparently do trade with Mavs since a lot of people thought they would never do trades with Mavs after that "famous" playoff series.
Mr B wrote:dirkforpres wrote:Archx wrote:
Yeah but re-signing Kyrie means win now. No rookie at 10 will be good enough. We know whatever Stein says is like 99% true, he's literally Cuban's mouthpiece. He started the campaign about Capela+15th for Mavs 10th, etc.... So until he starts reporting something else, i'm still believing Mavs are trying hard to get Capela at this point.
As they should. Mavs have the leverage in any deal for 10. Capela and 15 for 10 and Bertans or Collins and 15 for Bertans and Javale should be the only 2 options if Atlanta truly wants Lively. If the Mavs have to throw in a future 2nd or something to get it done, thats about as much extra as id be willing to part with.
Its not about putting a rookie next to Kyrie + Luka as much as it is about the fact that its a highly coveted prospect that any interested team has to acquire the 10th pick in order to get. If they trade higher than 10 for Lively, then it means that Hendricks or Black fall to Dallas and im sure Cuban and Nico would be more than happy with that scenario playing out as well... But if Dallas ends up staying and picking Lively, then at least we finally have an exciting C for the first time in a decade. Not the worst outcome either way.
The only bad draft outcome is if they package the pick with Hardaway for a vet that doesnt move the needle like Smart or Bojan.
It’s really all going to come down to who is there at 10. I e read that OKC is extremely interested in drafting Taylor Hendricks. If he’s still on the board at 10 I could see the Mavs trading down to 12.
Would OKC do #10+THJ for #12+Lu Dort?
Forbes wrote:I can’t wait to Thursday. So many teams want to move up in the draft we have a ton of leverage. Can’t wait to see what Nico does with it. Big opportunity for him to flex what he’s capable of. I just know we are gonna tear him apart if the outcome is underwhelming.
When plenty teams are calling YOU, You must take advantage.
Forbes wrote:I can’t wait to Thursday. So many teams want to move up in the draft we have a ton of leverage. Can’t wait to see what Nico does with it. Big opportunity for him to flex what he’s capable of. I just know we are gonna tear him apart if the outcome is underwhelming.
When plenty teams are calling YOU, You must take advantage.
dirkforpres wrote:Forbes wrote:I can’t wait to Thursday. So many teams want to move up in the draft we have a ton of leverage. Can’t wait to see what Nico does with it. Big opportunity for him to flex what he’s capable of. I just know we are gonna tear him apart if the outcome is underwhelming.
When plenty teams are calling YOU, You must take advantage.
My fear is his habit of overpaying. I worry about him packaging 10 and Green or another 1st, but not getting enough back to make us a contender
41Dirk41 wrote:Forbes wrote:I can’t wait to Thursday. So many teams want to move up in the draft we have a ton of leverage. Can’t wait to see what Nico does with it. Big opportunity for him to flex what he’s capable of. I just know we are gonna tear him apart if the outcome is underwhelming.
When plenty teams are calling YOU, You must take advantage.
You are right... But i'm scared too of what Nico could do in this situation
dirkforpres wrote:Forbes wrote:I can’t wait to Thursday. So many teams want to move up in the draft we have a ton of leverage. Can’t wait to see what Nico does with it. Big opportunity for him to flex what he’s capable of. I just know we are gonna tear him apart if the outcome is underwhelming.
When plenty teams are calling YOU, You must take advantage.
My fear is his habit of overpaying. I worry about him packaging 10 and Green or another 1st, but not getting enough back to make us a contender
Forbes wrote:Mr B wrote:dirkforpres wrote:
As they should. Mavs have the leverage in any deal for 10. Capela and 15 for 10 and Bertans or Collins and 15 for Bertans and Javale should be the only 2 options if Atlanta truly wants Lively. If the Mavs have to throw in a future 2nd or something to get it done, thats about as much extra as id be willing to part with.
Its not about putting a rookie next to Kyrie + Luka as much as it is about the fact that its a highly coveted prospect that any interested team has to acquire the 10th pick in order to get. If they trade higher than 10 for Lively, then it means that Hendricks or Black fall to Dallas and im sure Cuban and Nico would be more than happy with that scenario playing out as well... But if Dallas ends up staying and picking Lively, then at least we finally have an exciting C for the first time in a decade. Not the worst outcome either way.
The only bad draft outcome is if they package the pick with Hardaway for a vet that doesnt move the needle like Smart or Bojan.
It’s really all going to come down to who is there at 10. I e read that OKC is extremely interested in drafting Taylor Hendricks. If he’s still on the board at 10 I could see the Mavs trading down to 12.
Would OKC do #10+THJ for #12+Lu Dort?
Bruh if we got Lu Dort, my god the happiness
Archx wrote:I'm not sure i would want anything from Rockets.
[Chris A. White] “Hearing that the #Rockets and Mavericks have discussed a trade with the Rockets getting the #10 pick in the draft, and the Mavericks would get #20 and other assets...”
Forbes wrote:I think a lot of the teams speaking to the Mavs are about to start spilling the offers. We’ll get a general idea of what’s being offered. Personally I believe it’s best to use this pick to get established players. No rookie available at 10 is moving the needle the way WE need it moved.
DJ_3_Ball wrote:Who would you rather have?
Kyrie or Austin Reaves