Trade Discussion 22/23

[Mavrelous]

On reddit the claim is if we waive and stretch Betrans we gain access to our full MLE (assuming Ky is resigned). No idea if that is true, maybe the slightly higher cap number help us out there.

This sounds ideal to me: Throw the full MLE at Grant, Brooks, Bruce Brown and see if someone bites.

It's a tough decision, but there's the option to S&W Bullock, he's a better player than Bertans, but Bertans could be bigger salary balast for deadline trade, Bullock's salary is smaller, S&W Bullock drops 9 million in cap, Bertans drops 13, both open the full MLE.
We'll see what Kyrie signs for, if he signs for 180/4, that's 40 mils starting salary, this puts the Mavs at 148, draft pick is 5, so that's 153, MLE is 12.4 and BAE is 4, right at the Apron w/o waiving anyone, but may need few vet mins to complete the roster.

[41Dirk41]

On reddit the claim is if we waive and stretch Betrans we gain access to our full MLE (assuming Ky is resigned). No idea if that is true, maybe the slightly higher cap number help us out there.

This sounds ideal to me: Throw the full MLE at Grant, Brooks, Bruce Brown and see if someone bites.

Bad move, Bertans is a big expires... If we want to make a trade we need him.
I hope at least they will wait what happens at the #10 pick.

About the second part, i totally agree.

[fuller4379]

The revised trade for Boston to get KP is a head scratcher to me. Losing Smart for KP is going to hurt the Celtics. Their defense will suffer and I am not sure how much, if any, KP will add to their offense.

[arkuo]

The revised trade for Boston to get KP is a head scratcher to me. Losing Smart for KP is going to hurt the Celtics. Their defense will suffer and I am not sure how much, if any, KP will add to their offense.

Smart bore the brunt of the blame for the Celtics losing to Jimmy Butler in that fashion even if it's Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum standing around when they dont have the ball. So they need someone to "blame" for that.

[daoneandonly]

The revised trade for Boston to get KP is a head scratcher to me. Losing Smart for KP is going to hurt the Celtics. Their defense will suffer and I am not sure how much, if any, KP will add to their offense.

Smart bore the brunt of the blame for the Celtics losing to Jimmy Butler in that fashion even if it's Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum standing around when they dont have the ball. So they need someone to "blame" for that.

Its depressing though, eh returned really nice value. We took on Bertans to trade him, Nico is an idiot.

The 3 teams i hate the most in the NBA are Washington, PHX, and Memphis. Now because of that stupid trade, all 3 are in a better position.

[Apz]

The revised trade for Boston to get KP is a head scratcher to me. Losing Smart for KP is going to hurt the Celtics. Their defense will suffer and I am not sure how much, if any, KP will add to their offense.

Well, boston need to get out of money and they cant trade brogdon unless they pay with those 1sts they now got from memphis. Clearly they will now pay brown, but think the reason dmart were moved anf kp attractive that they would get smarts production and then just let that 36m walk away after the season

[Darren]

I’m fine with Williams anywhere from 16-20 million a year.

1. He would walk in and be an instant quality starter.
2. Hes a very good defender. He’s better defensively than DFS.
3. He shoots 40% from 3.
4. He’s 24 and doesn’t miss a lot of games.

There's no way a 18 mpg guy in the playoffs should get 16-20 mil. Heck he was DNP to 8 minutes in more than half of the playoff games this year.

He's a solid player that could help but if he gets a contract like that, he instantly becomes one of the worst contracts in the league.

DFS guard almost all positions on court. Grant William is not quick or athletic enough to get Aaron Gordon job done. I'm not even sure whether GW plays as good as Christian Wood.

I think the defensive issue start with Kidd. Coaching salary do not count against the hard cap. Some candidates won't be back with the previous team. Something could be done to stop the incompetent leadership issue.

[mxr2000]

Whatever trade we do should include Bertans, he most be out of the Mavs he is just a waste of spot for a young player or veteran , also Dallas need to avoid get in trades players that shouldn't be on this league or player that can't play on this League with stupid silly contracts.

[daoneandonly]

Whatever trade we do should include Bertans, he most be out of the Mavs he is just a waste of spot for a young player or veteran , also Dallas need to avoid get in trades players that shouldn't be on this league or player that can't play on this League with stupid silly contracts.

Agreed. Welcome to (or back to) the Mavs board, good to see new fans and we can either celebrate or likely sulk together

[HopsandBarley]

Grant and 25 for Bertrans and 10?

[daoneandonly]

Grant and 25 for Bertrans and 10?

Not legal and non sensical. Grant is not worth a 15 slot drop, come one now, so unreasonable

[Archx]

Grant and 25 for Bertrans and 10?

Mavs plan is to get a better player with 10 and preferably a center.

[Mr B]

Grant Williams is perfect for us. I don't care about money, the new CBA doesn't scare nobody except Mavs fans.

Smart will not play in Washington, can be available for a trade? Probably Nico "the Genius" Harrison can trade the #10+green+Hardy for him

Then why not just trade for Anthony Davis, sign Draymond Green, trade for Marcus Smart, and the sign all the top defensive players available? I mean the cap is fictional anyways and only Mavs fans are concerned about. Based on what you’re saying they should be able to go over the cap if they want, I mean it’s not like there will ever be any penalties and it’s only Mark’s money.

[41Dirk41]

Grant Williams is perfect for us. I don't care about money, the new CBA doesn't scare nobody except Mavs fans.

Smart will not play in Washington, can be available for a trade? Probably Nico "the Genius" Harrison can trade the #10+green+Hardy for him

Then why not just trade for Anthony Davis, sign Draymond Green, trade for Marcus Smart, and the sign all the top defensive players available? I mean the cap is fictional anyways and only Mavs fans are concerned about. Based on what you’re saying they should be able to go over the cap if they want, I mean it’s not like there will ever be any penalties and it’s only Mark’s money.

Hyperbole. You just trolling here.

[dirkforpres]

Grant and 25 for Bertrans and 10?

Hell no. Grant Williams is nowhere near that good. Dallas needs a C tonight one way or another... And im not talking about Luke Kornet or some 25th pick C either

[Mr B]

Grant Williams is perfect for us. I don't care about money, the new CBA doesn't scare nobody except Mavs fans.

Smart will not play in Washington, can be available for a trade? Probably Nico "the Genius" Harrison can trade the #10+green+Hardy for him

Then why not just trade for Anthony Davis, sign Draymond Green, trade for Marcus Smart, and the sign all the top defensive players available? I mean the cap is fictional anyways and only Mavs fans are concerned about. Based on what you’re saying they should be able to go over the cap if they want, I mean it’s not like there will ever be any penalties and it’s only Mark’s money.

Hyperbole. You just trolling here.

You’re the only be that says the new CBA doesn’t matter not me.

[Archx]

Apparently Cuban was on the radio and someone from reddit summed it up... I don't know how much of that is a fact though, so i'll just copy the text.

Cuban is on 97.1. The Freak right now. I'll summarize a bit of what I heard.

If Dallas has 3 guys they like at 10, they'll look to move back. (Orlando? Toronto? New Orleans? Atlanta? Utah?)

If Dallas has 1 guy they like at 10, they'll most likely keep the pick.

They also spoke on the new CBA and it sounds like Cuban wants to really prioritize the draft going forward.

When talking about keeping the pick, Cuban said that if "the right trade" is there, they'll look to trade. Other than that, it sounds like they're ready to keep the pick today.

[Archx]

Also, more and more people related to Mavs discussions believe that they are keeping the pick. We obviously don't know how much of that is a smoke screen but apparently they really like Lively and view him as a potential starting center. And another name popped up. If Cam Whitmore is still there at 10, they think Mavs will almost sure draft him.

[41Dirk41]

Then why not just trade for Anthony Davis, sign Draymond Green, trade for Marcus Smart, and the sign all the top defensive players available? I mean the cap is fictional anyways and only Mavs fans are concerned about. Based on what you’re saying they should be able to go over the cap if they want, I mean it’s not like there will ever be any penalties and it’s only Mark’s money.

Hyperbole. You just trolling here.

You’re the only be that says the new CBA doesn’t matter not me.

It will be less important than a lot of you guys here think... Superstar will always sign supermax, a lot of players will be always overpaid so cap and luxury will always go up.

If Cuban really want to win he have to pay, look at last winners payroll... We went cheap for 10 years.

[Mr B]

Also, more and more people related to Mavs discussions believe that they are keeping the pick. We obviously don't know how much of that is a smoke screen but apparently they really like Lively and view him as a potential starting center. And another name popped up. If Cam Whitmore is still there at 10, they think Mavs will almost sure draft him.

Keeping the pick would definitely be my preference. Also agree that if Cam Whitmore falls to 10 the Mavs HAVE to draft and keep him regardless of who is still on the board. The Mavs need a center but you can’t pass on Whitmore, he’s the perfect fit next to Luka/Kyrie. Plus you can’t go wrong with a Villanova guy.

I also hope that Cuban isn’t blowing smoke about prioritizing the draft going forward. They have never done that during Cuban’s tenure outside of the Luka draft and Josh Howard draft.