Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[Maverick41]

I'm watching the Clips and Theis is the perfect cheap C backup.

Theis isn't happening, especially with Zubac out for an extended period. We missed our chance on him already.

[41Dirk41]

I'm watching the Clips and Theis is the perfect cheap C backup.

Theis isn't happening, especially with Zubac out for an extended period. We missed our chance on him already.

Yes of course, he was buyouted by Indiana weeks ago... He is 10X better than Powell/Kleber/Holmes combined.

[BliscoSantos]

BliscoSantos wrote:
Nico needs to be working the phone trying to get WCJ...Mavs don't have the juice to get top Players,try good ones

I agree. I really like WCJ and have brought him up a lot here and T&T board. I know he's injured all the time but when healthy, he's an Al Horford type player. That kind of player can do a lot for you in the playoffs where non-shooting bigs can often be played off the floor.

Wendall Carter Jr is groundbound and not a rim protector and is the odd man out as both Banchero and Wagner arent rim protectors either. The guy that can protect the rim is Daniel Gafford and theirs a good chance the Mavs dont pick up a PF but still need a backup to Derrick Lively.

WCJ is better than Gafford...if I'd have to choose between the two of them I'm taking WCJ...sure Gafford may be a lik better on D but WCJ is a lot better on O

Seems like Pascal is heading to IND(and then he'll test the FA,not a lot of options...PHI probably the Best,if they offer MAX)...Kuzma might be headed to SAC...that leaves Grant as the next Best option for a PF, but I'm not a fan of his(seems like he's more of a SF)

Mavs need to take a flyer on someone who's value is low,who they can get on a cheap,so that they keep their assets for offseason...Remember when people wouldn't trade Maxi for Lauri,or Maxi(and Fuller) for Randle??how did that work out,Both Players are balling,are way better than whatever they have at their disposal...WCJ is a Player I hope they get...Wiggins could be had for low value, offcourse they'd need to to a good backup check(see what's going on with him...is it a mental thing)..then you have guys like Jalen McDaniels who could be had for cheap...or KJ Martin...those type won't get you a whole lot better,but their size would definetely help

[Mavrelous]

WCJ was Mavs fallback plan in case they failed to draft Luka...

[41Dirk41]

Overpay for Grant could be a huge mistake, good player but he doesn't fix our issues.

Probably the backup C is the biggest problem, if Lively goes out we are starting Powell so it's a disaster and the record is clear. Lively out and the season is over.

At this point i don't see any major move by the Mavs (Siakam is gone), ended up with DFS and a backup C for some SRPs and filler is enough.
I don't like Drummond too much but he can be good here.
Jalen Smith is still young and can play 4/5.
Isaiah Stewart maybe the best option here.
WCJ is injury prone, maybe too risky for that price.

[BliscoSantos]

Overpay for Grant could be a huge mistake, good player but he doesn't fix our issues.

Probably the backup C is the biggest problem, if Lively goes out we are starting Powell so it's a disaster and the record is clear. Lively out and the season is over.

At this point i don't see any major move by the Mavs (Siakam is gone), ended up with DFS and a backup C for some SRPs and filler is enough.
I don't like Drummond too much but he can be good here.
Jalen Smith is still young and can play 4/5.
Isaiah Stewart maybe the best option here.
WCJ is injury prone, maybe too risky for that price.

Depends what's the price for WCJ...they probably don't want Holmes but I would be willing to give Powell and Green(He's solid,but could be replaced...C's are harder to find)for him...maybe Orlando sends a second

[BeiBeau]

tleikheen wrote:
Shams Charamia is reporting everyone is available not named Stephon Curry .

Id go after Dario Saric 21mpg , 10ppg , 5.7 rpg ...shooting 48/39.6/85 ...6'10 /225 29 yo , 2miilion for Jaden Hardy 1.7 million and a 2nd round


{No. Saric is damaged goods, a horrible defender, and coming up on 30 years old.

I like him maybe as a vet minimum guy in the offseason, but I would never give up 2 assets for him right now.}

If Dario Saric is damaged goods than what is Grant Wms problem : Grant's #'s 27mpg. 8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .....shooting 41.5/37.1/69 at 10 million $$$ more ALSO he's from Croatia ,Slovenia's and Luka's neighbor.

Dude how have you still not figured out how to quote people? Just hit the quote button and then type at the very bottom. It’s not that hard.

[daoneandonly]

Make a play for Toppin now that Indy traded for Siakam

[BliscoSantos]

Siakam is a Pacer,at least for the end of the season

[Archx]

tleikheen wrote:
Shams Charamia is reporting everyone is available not named Stephon Curry .

Id go after Dario Saric 21mpg , 10ppg , 5.7 rpg ...shooting 48/39.6/85 ...6'10 /225 29 yo , 2miilion for Jaden Hardy 1.7 million and a 2nd round


{No. Saric is damaged goods, a horrible defender, and coming up on 30 years old.

I like him maybe as a vet minimum guy in the offseason, but I would never give up 2 assets for him right now.}

If Dario Saric is damaged goods than what is Grant Wms problem : Grant's #'s 27mpg. 8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .....shooting 41.5/37.1/69 at 10 million $$$ more ALSO he's from Croatia ,Slovenia's and Luka's neighbor.

Dude how have you still not figured out how to quote people? Just hit the quote button and then type at the very bottom. It’s not that hard.

Because he deletes user's name on purpose, so then you have no way of knowing if he responded or quoted you. Basically you can figure it out by pure accident if you come across his post

Also, Saric sucks, why the hell would Mavs want him. They should try with better players first.

[BliscoSantos]

tleikheen wrote:
Shams Charamia is reporting everyone is available not named Stephon Curry .

Id go after Dario Saric 21mpg , 10ppg , 5.7 rpg ...shooting 48/39.6/85 ...6'10 /225 29 yo , 2miilion for Jaden Hardy 1.7 million and a 2nd round


{No. Saric is damaged goods, a horrible defender, and coming up on 30 years old.

I like him maybe as a vet minimum guy in the offseason, but I would never give up 2 assets for him right now.}

If Dario Saric is damaged goods than what is Grant Wms problem : Grant's #'s 27mpg. 8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .....shooting 41.5/37.1/69 at 10 million $$$ more ALSO he's from Croatia ,Slovenia's and Luka's neighbor.

Dude how have you still not figured out how to quote people? Just hit the quote button and then type at the very bottom. It’s not that hard.

Because he deletes user's name on purpose, so then you have no way of knowing if he responded or quoted you. Basically you can figure it out by pure accident if you come across his post

Also, Saric sucks, why the hell would Mavs want him. They should try with better players first.

We'll see what they do, they just must not panick now...there isn't a Player available that's gonna make them a contender...be patient,try making some moves that can make you better without giving up the assets,otherwise wait for the offseason... next offseason is gonna make or brake this FO...either Nico builds a contender or they're screwed and Luka and Kai get fed up

[41Dirk41]

tleikheen wrote:
Shams Charamia is reporting everyone is available not named Stephon Curry .

Id go after Dario Saric 21mpg , 10ppg , 5.7 rpg ...shooting 48/39.6/85 ...6'10 /225 29 yo , 2miilion for Jaden Hardy 1.7 million and a 2nd round


{No. Saric is damaged goods, a horrible defender, and coming up on 30 years old.

I like him maybe as a vet minimum guy in the offseason, but I would never give up 2 assets for him right now.}

If Dario Saric is damaged goods than what is Grant Wms problem : Grant's #'s 27mpg. 8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, .....shooting 41.5/37.1/69 at 10 million $$$ more ALSO he's from Croatia ,Slovenia's and Luka's neighbor.

Dude how have you still not figured out how to quote people? Just hit the quote button and then type at the very bottom. It’s not that hard.

Because he deletes user's name on purpose, so then you have no way of knowing if he responded or quoted you. Basically you can figure it out by pure accident if you come across his post

Also, Saric sucks, why the hell would Mavs want him. They should try with better players first.

I repeat worst trade ever.

Saric doesn't suck but trade a young prospect for a vet min guy it can almost be classified as circumvention of an incompetent person

But this guy suggested a trade for freakin Bol Bol days ago so it's all very funny

[daoneandonly]

I know we dont need more guards, but Bruce Brown would be a great get for this team. Dallas should also inquire about Obi or Jalen Smith

[Mavrelous]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

[tleikheen]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

the 2 1st rounders are for 2024 which is great trade pieces to have . I doubt Toronto is trying to become good through drafting a bunch of 19 yr olds .Masai Ujiri will use them as trade chips for already established young talent.

[Bob8]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

Is Siakam really that good? He plays a lot of minutes, scores solidly, doesn't do anything else very good and expects max.

[dirkforpres]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

I think its pretty fair for what is essentially a 30 year old rental gearing up for what will be a massive payday. Raptors lost all leverage once the reports came out that he wants to test free agency. Being able to still get 3 FRPs (and probably more once BB is rerouted) is pretty good value. Could the Mavs have offered more? Sure. Would that have been smart? Thats up for debate.

I think I would rather hold on to all future picks and swaps until the summer when we have 3 to dispose of and try to find buy low guys like PJ and Wiggins in the meantime.

[Bob8]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

I think its pretty fair for what is essentially a 30 year old rental gearing up for what will be a massive payday. Raptors lost all leverage once the reports came out that he wants to test free agency. Being able to still get 3 FRPs (and probably more once BB is rerouted) is pretty good value. Could the Mavs have offered more? Sure. Would that have been smart? Thats up for debate.

I think I would rather hold on to all future picks and swaps until the summer when we have 3 to dispose of and try to find buy low guys like PJ and Wiggins in the meantime.

Not Wiggins, mental problems are the scariest thing for professional athlete.

[dirkforpres]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

I think its pretty fair for what is essentially a 30 year old rental gearing up for what will be a massive payday. Raptors lost all leverage once the reports came out that he wants to test free agency. Being able to still get 3 FRPs (and probably more once BB is rerouted) is pretty good value. Could the Mavs have offered more? Sure. Would that have been smart? Thats up for debate.

I think I would rather hold on to all future picks and swaps until the summer when we have 3 to dispose of and try to find buy low guys like PJ and Wiggins in the meantime.

Not Wiggins, mental problems are the scariest thing for professional athlete.

The Warriors might be the worst example of mental health care in the entire league between what all transpired over the last year with Poole, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga/Moody, etc.

Mavs have a good history of rebuilding the value of buy-low guys like THJ, Exum, DJJ, Kyrie, etc. I think he would do really well here, but I wouldnt be keen on giving up much more than Kleber, Holmes, and 2nds.

[Bob8]

I think its pretty fair for what is essentially a 30 year old rental gearing up for what will be a massive payday. Raptors lost all leverage once the reports came out that he wants to test free agency. Being able to still get 3 FRPs (and probably more once BB is rerouted) is pretty good value. Could the Mavs have offered more? Sure. Would that have been smart? Thats up for debate.

I think I would rather hold on to all future picks and swaps until the summer when we have 3 to dispose of and try to find buy low guys like PJ and Wiggins in the meantime.

Not Wiggins, mental problems are the scariest thing for professional athlete.

The Warriors might be the worst example of mental health care in the entire league between what all transpired over the last year with Poole, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga/Moody, etc.

Mavs have a good history of rebuilding the value of buy-low guys like THJ, Exum, DJJ, Kyrie, etc. I think he would do really well here, but I wouldnt be keen on giving up much more than Kleber, Holmes, and 2nds.

Sure for free, like you propose. I don't know what is wrong with him, but his numbers are disastrous, he's worse in everything than previous seasons.