Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[dirkforpres]

Not Wiggins, mental problems are the scariest thing for professional athlete.

The Warriors might be the worst example of mental health care in the entire league between what all transpired over the last year with Poole, Draymond, Wiggins, Kuminga/Moody, etc.

Mavs have a good history of rebuilding the value of buy-low guys like THJ, Exum, DJJ, Kyrie, etc. I think he would do really well here, but I wouldnt be keen on giving up much more than Kleber, Holmes, and 2nds.

Sure for free, like you propose. I don't know what is wrong with him, but his numbers are disastrous, he's worse in everything than previous seasons.

Well they dont really have a choice except to take cap relief for him in any deal, but at least this way itll clear minutes for an unhappy Kuminga and take 2 years of Wiggins off the books.

I wouldnt even consider including picks or any of the young guys, but hey if all they want is 2 smaller, shorter salaries for him then I think thats a no-brainer.

[Mavrelous]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

Is Siakam really that good? He plays a lot of minutes, scores solidly, doesn't do anything else very good and expects max.

Rebounds, defends, runs the fast break, his only flaw is 3P shooting.
Raptors are a team w/o spacing and w/o PG, he had tough time there and still produced.

[Bob8]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

Is Siakam really that good? He plays a lot of minutes, scores solidly, doesn't do anything else very good and expects max.

Rebounds, defends, runs the fast break, his only flaw is 3P shooting.
Raptors are a team w/o spacing and w/o PG, he had tough time there and still produced.

He's not especially good rebounder and he isn't very efficient for a big. I would say that 3 FRPs and Brown is pretty solid get for a player that is FA in 6 months.

[Mavrelous]

He's not especially good rebounder and he isn't very efficient for a big. I would say that 3 FRPs and Brown is pretty solid get for a player that is FA in 6 months.

2 of these 1sts are this year and in the 20s, really not that good.
Siakam was TOR 1st option, on a team with no spacing and no dribble penetration guard, the only one capable of doing something with the ball.
Ignore his stats, he was dealing with impossible roster in TOR, he operates mainly in the mid post and really skilled there, good fit next to 3 pt shooting center in Turner, Indiana got a steal.

[Bob8]

He's not especially good rebounder and he isn't very efficient for a big. I would say that 3 FRPs and Brown is pretty solid get for a player that is FA in 6 months.

2 of these 1sts are this year and in the 20s, really not that good.
Siakam was TOR 1st option, on a team with no spacing and no dribble penetration guard, the only one capable of doing something with the ball.
Ignore his stats, he was dealing with impossible roster in TOR, he operates mainly in the mid post and really skilled there, good fit next to 3 pt shooting center in Turner, Indiana got a steal.

My guess is that nobody offered more and there's probably a reason for that.

[Maverick41]

DAL Receives: Poeltl + McDaniels
TOR Receives: Lowry + Powell + 2 SRPs (from DAL) + 1 SRP (from MIA)
MIA Receives: Schroeder + Holmes

DAL pays very a lot in tax to bring a starting level C off the bench. Lively + Poeltl becomes similar to a Chandler + Haywood center duo. We add McDaniels for some length at the wings. We then still have all of our assets to make a bigger trade in the offseason.

TOR gets a Raptors legend back in Lowry to mentor Quickley. He's also expiring and would give them massive cap space in the offseason to kickstart their semi rebuild. Powell is there for matching purposes and I guess because he's Canadian.

MIA only does this if they can't make a bigger trade. They roll over Lowry's big expiring into 2 mid sized ones that are expiring next year and can be used in a trade in the offseason. Schroeder is also better then Lowry at this point of their career. And if there's a team that can somehow revive Holmes, it's the Heat. Lastly they cut a solid chunk off their luxury tax bill which the Heat love to do.

[tleikheen]

With Lakers near the bottom in 3 pters' made would a trade of :

Rui Hachimura 6'8"/230 $15.7 million & Jackson Hayes 7'0"/220 $2.1 million for Tim Hardaway Jr 6'5"/205 $17.9 million

THJ is presently 5th in made 3pts with 126 made. Prince is 39th with 85 made. He also is avging 18.3 ppg

Just because we're going to see todays game.

Laker fans love Rui and what he does on the court BUT Ham loves the minimum pay guys (Prince,Reddish) more. Its a big part of their losses as well and why so many Laker fans want Darvin Ham fired. Hachimura is an athletic 6'8" finisher around the basket. He would fit great with Luka and Kyrie.
Lakers know the clock is clicking on Lebron and THJ is flamethrower when he's hot and the Lakers need scoring via the 3 ball.

[BeiBeau]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

Is Siakam really that good? He plays a lot of minutes, scores solidly, doesn't do anything else very good and expects max.

Siakam is a very good defender. This is just a wilding incorrect interpretation of Siakam’s skills.

[GermanFan120]

Mavs FO. Please do not help GSW to trade for Wiggins. Please.

[41Dirk41]

Mavs FO. Please do not help GSW to trade for Wiggins. Please.

Agree but seems we are THAT team... Cuban had a good history helping other teams... Odom, Rondo ecc ecc

[Bob8]

Man, that was such a low return for Siakam, 2 crappy 1sts and top 4 pretected one.
Mavs could offer 27 1st and 26/28 swap with better players + Green + OMax.
Brown is good, but overpaid, Pacers had no one to offer money to so they secured him on high salary for 1 year, he's MLE player getting twice that.

Is Siakam really that good? He plays a lot of minutes, scores solidly, doesn't do anything else very good and expects max.

Siakam is a very good defender. This is just a wilding incorrect interpretation of Siakam’s skills.

Wilding incorrect? Is really necessary to go with full aggression in every post?

His defensive stats are, not only this season, very average at best.

[Mavrelous]

Mavs FO. Please do not help GSW to trade for Wiggins. Please.

Agree but seems we are THAT team... Cuban had a good history helping other teams... Odom, Rondo ecc ecc

With DJJ I'm not sure how much Wiggins is necessary, he has a bit more size and is supposedly better shooter, but he's not shooting well and the contract is just too big of a gamble.

[Mavrelous]

Man, I have no interest in anything rumored, if Holmes/Hardy/2 2nds bring back DFS, then go for it, otherwise, waive Morris and wait for the buyout market.

[41Dirk41]

Man, I have no interest in anything rumored, if Holmes/Hardy/2 2nds bring back DFS, then go for it, otherwise, waive Morris and wait for the buyout market.

I don't know what kind of value has Hardy in the league but seems the best case scenario for us... I would like to have a real backup C but the FO has other plans.

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[41Dirk41]

Another Knicks rejection? No please

[ACMFFL]

Yeah another guard is exactly what this team needs..

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Seems like everybody,except the Mavs FO, knows the weakness of this team(rebounding and D)...sure ,bring on another guard ... can't wait for the small ball lineups of Luka-Kai,Curry-Green-Grimes LOL

[Maverick41]

I like Grimes here if at least 1 of Green or THJ (or both) are traded. If they stay, it doesn't make sense. If I were to surmise why he's being linked here, it's because it's a possible 3 way deal with NY, ATL & DAL. DAL gets Grimes + Capela, NY gets Murray, ATL gets Green + fillers + draft compensation from both teams. Something like that.

[Bob8]

I like Grimes here if at least 1 of Green or THJ (or both) are traded. If they stay, it doesn't make sense. If I were to surmise why he's being linked here, it's because it's a possible 3 way deal with NY, ATL & DAL. DAL gets Grimes + Capela, NY gets Murray, ATL gets Green + fillers + draft compensation from both teams. Something like that.

I would need to be pretty awesome draft compensation for the Hawks.