arkuo wrote:Torgeir Bryn wrote:arkuo wrote:
Thats my point. Of course if we just go about the "i want list" then it starts of with Lebron, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, maybe even Draymond Green. But will any of those guys be available for Wesley Matthews and a first? How about if Donnie washes their car for a month on top of that? Yup, didnt think so. The point is, none of the guys we want will be available for the guys we want to shed. Im not arguing whether we need to get young talent because of course we do. But in my humble opinion those are on a different timeline versus what Cuban needs right now. And i think management is giving up a lot of dollars by missing the playoffs right. Im not saying its the right thing to do. But it may be our only choice. We're not a big market team that can offset costs though merchandise sales like the lakers. It's a business fellas.
Do we have any indications that the Mavericks are bleeding money? It's a big market team with increasing revenue and is coming off a season where they had a very moderate salary. Dallas made a profit last year at least.https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/19/16334596/nba-teams-losing-money-revenue-profits-why-matters
Until that is the message from the team, I don't see why we should assume so and why we should think they are sacrificing potensial for short term gains. And it is not like chasing the 8. seed has brought so much financial reward to teams like Detroit or Charlotte. What will earn you financial success is success on the floor, which is why the Thunder has made money even though they are one of the smallest markeds. And the reason the Warriors are making boatloads of money.
A major reason for why you try to get young talent is to have the assets to make those kind of trades. You are damn right Matthews is not going to cut it. That's why you want to have a treasure chest, so that you are able to pull of deals like what the Wolves did for Butler. And if your young players develop and you improve, the team looks a lot more tempting to free agents. The 76ers will have plenty of cap space this summer and could certainly land a big fish. That would be a lot harder with $50 mill of Whiteside and DeRozan on the books.
Agreed. Although hypothetically, how do you propose we acquire young talent in the coming seasons? With a healthy roster and Carlisle it will be hard for the mavs to finish bottom 7. and with the new draft rules in place, you cant get talent like how Philly did with Embiid and Simmons. Going by that strategy we have to trade everyone except DSJ, fire Rick to finish dead last. Because at this point teams like Boston wont be giving you guys like Tatum or Brown for free. The only way is to tank which would also be difficult with the talent that we have. so again hypothetically we are looking at 8th to 12th place in the West. Which begs the question, is it worth "tanking" only to finish bottom 7 every year? And that's assuming DSJ shares the same vision.
To cut the story short, I mean, what was your plan? Tank every season? Or wait for guys like Donovan Mitchell to hit the FA market and offer him a max? Because judging from where we are right now, those will be the scenarios you are proposing. Again, correct me if im wrong.
We have already bottomed out, don't do anything to get worse. See if you can get a RFA on a decent contract, can we rehabilitate a former top pick like Len, take some flyers on those kind of young guys who have shown flashes. I think we will better next season, if nothing else due to better luck in close games, but it's unlikely that we are a playoff team. That means we will probably pick in the lottery again next year. I am not opposed to use our cap space, but if so it should be on a younger player who fits the timeline or maybe take back a bad contract for picks/talent.
If Mitchell is a max guy then he is going to stay with the Jazz. They can offer him 5 years or match any offer he gets, so he will be under team control for a long time.
