Pinkyring wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Pinkyring wrote:Based on what's out, we have enough information to form an opinion.
Hmmm.
'Believe women', Unless it conflicts with my favorite sports team.
In which case,
'Immediately discredit and disregard women.'Nice to see we've all learned a valuable lesson from the #MeToo movement.
I have no idea what occurred. No emotional stake in the argument.
And thusly will back away slowly and carefully to a less controversial topic.
I will never just believe anybody story regardless of sex until i get some facts, this has zero to do with what team i support, based on the information available, it points to an extortion attempt. Why are you even in the mavs board to begin with
Jamaaliver, you're totally welcome on the Mavs board.
But for what it's worth:
1) I can confirm, Pinkyring's opinion would be the same, regardless of the team involved here.
2) He is giving his own opinion on the matter. He doesn't represent the Mavericks fanbase as a whole... I write this because there are always some folks who read an opion by some fan and they will write "sheesh, Mavs fans think x or y or z".
3) Pinkyring's opinion in this particular case isn't that abnormal. Given the reports available, it's not shocking that many share his opinion. Check the Knicks board. They have a long thread where initially they were mocking KP and then as reports came out with details, they began to change their tune...
3) I am not invested in trying to figure out whether someone is a rapist or not. I'll just wait for the investigation to finish and then read the conclusions.
However I will say that it's not a good idea to take every allegation the same way and then bring up a whole "movement". Each situation individually. If you feel there's enough facts for you to have an opinion, then by all means have your opinion. What I don't think you should do is... "I have no idea what occurred", but then you lump this case into the "me too" movement, whatever that means. If the allegations are debunked, you indirectly undermine a 'whole movement' --- you recently saw that Smollet thing where some were quick to use him as an example of "being lynched"... and then after he was exposed, that ends up undermining other people.
Personally, forget this thing existed. Forget he was accused of rape by a girl. I was already not that excited about this KP entourage thing. It's not very logical what happened with him in New York, wanting out of there when a massive extension was around the corner and he had a chance of being the face of NY. So, even if this thing ends up with no repercussions, it's still another red flag because he put himself in that situation --- now, many players have been in bad relationships and make bad decisions all the time and are still great players, so... time will tell how KP works out with the Mavs. I do hope that all these things (history with the Knicks, injury, allegations) play a factor in contract negotiations and he isn't simply given out a full max with no off-sets.
And to answer your original question, there are conflicting reports of what the Mavs knew. One common trait is that the Mavs did know something. At least the 'extortion' bit. That alone is enough to make you think they'd do their due diligence on the matter. It's actually ironic because I felt the Knicks got a decent haul out of a disgruntled player. If I knew that on top of that he was dealing with extortion and/or being accused of rape (in this internet age where he'll now carry that accusation for life), I'd be even more shocked with their return.
