Kristaps Porziņģis activated

arkuo · Post #361 » by **arkuo** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:14 pm

Anyone else notice we're using Kristaps in that Rudy Gobert role?

Archx · Post #362 » by **Archx** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:24 pm

KP is just proving us how useless DAJ really was on defense and cared only about rebounds. I much more prefer seeing KP as a great rim protector rather than massive offensive weapon. He is already 4th in block shots per game and is proving to be valuable asset on that end of the floor. Even though people tried to convince us before the season that KP is a bad defender. Obviously he's not playing to his full potential yet, but when he finally does, he'll prove that he is worth max money.

Post #363 » by **Dirk** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:11 am

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I have been impressed with KP's movement all year. It's crazy how agile he is. Even when he was a major negative, he looked really good to me just moving around (major point of interest after the 20 month layoff).

Now he is coming together on defense and has been a beast. An absolute demon in this game.

I love how so many folks "NBA fans" are still hanging out to some outdated net rating numbers. I honestly laugh on the inside at the dumb stuff I read...

He still has a few plays on offense where he looks a bit bad (okay, embarrassing), but surely it is just a matter of time until he figures stuff out and has better body control/patience. I have seen this guy make really nice instintinctive plays and you see him hunt for the boards, putbacks... he looks like he has the whole package physical tools + instincts...

Some plays I capture from this Rockets game.

OMG! Finished with contact!!!

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block westbrook --- set the tone, the rockets tripped over themselves from this play on

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cleaning up the garbage

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block capela

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KP/Luka - pass

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KP/Luka - defense

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KP/Luka - lob

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ozwizard8 · Post #364 » by **ozwizard8** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:56 am

He's doing great for this time of the year.
I expected him to miss more games but he's going good for now. KP's offensive usage is rather low and he has that rust on offense.
But still he's showing up as 2nd option and on defense he's doing pretty good.

Honestly, I'd be ecstatic if he can continue to contribute at this level steadily for this season. He'll probably get better on offense by March and you can expect more for him next year.
I hope he and Doncic wouldnt get on wrong side. KP is a great talent and he might look for more attention. As Carlisle said after last game, I hope he'll get some applause for his contribution on D and offense.
Defensively, he is an elite big man.
And on offense, he's creating a lot of driving lanes for Doncic and others with his shooting threat.

KP should focus to have a healthy year this year. Get more efficient, increase your advanced stat numbers not the PPG. And next year he can take off from there.

As I said in offseason, this team needs a guy like Thad Young/Millsap type of forward. Or an upgrade for Powell to pair with KP. Its not fair to expect KP to play like Draymond. He's not going to get quick enough to defend perimeter players including forwards like Lebron/Kawhi and such. His best utilization is rim protection. He's so close to Gobert levels of deterrence. Even if he doesn't block to shot he make the opponent pass out or miss those shots/layups.

ozwizard8 · Post #365 » by **ozwizard8** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:00 am

Archx wrote:KP is just proving us how useless DAJ really was on defense and cared only about rebounds. I much more prefer seeing KP as a great rim protector rather than massive offensive weapon. He is already 4th in block shots per game and is proving to be valuable asset on that end of the floor. Even though people tried to convince us before the season that KP is a bad defender. Obviously he's not playing to his full potential yet, but when he finally does, he'll prove that he is worth max money.

He already performs at a level you'd give max money.
Finished Houston game with +32.
Seriously what else do you want from a player to deserve max money?

Every team has a cap space of 3 max players. On average NBA teams usually, have more than 50-60 max contracted active players.
You don't need to perform at KAT level to deserve a max. But KP can get back to that level too.

Great organization for KP and such a steal for Mavs.

Bluelabel24 · Post #366 » by **Bluelabel24** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:26 am

He played like a DPOY this game against a top team in the league. this is the mindset he needs to have all the way.. at the start of the season whenever his shot isnt falling his defense gets affected too. he is realizing it doesnt have to be that way. next step right now is setting much better screens for luka and they are gonna open much better shots for him.
Also looks like he is starting to enjoy the defense anchor role, i remember during the spurs game he held luka responsible for not closing out on defense.

arkuo · Post #367 » by **arkuo** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:44 am

KP having a Rudy Gobert type of impact in the paint. When his offense comes around, that's going to be hard to stop.

Rudy just scores 2 feet from the rim. Kristaps can shoot all the way from zero to 37 feet out. That will be a problem for opposing teams.

arkuo · Post #368 » by **arkuo** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:50 am

ozwizard8 wrote:As I said in offseason, this team needs a guy like Thad Young/Millsap type of forward.

This 100%. :nod:

If this current team adds Paul Milsap, with what he is currently doing in Denver right now, it adds a whole new angle to that offense. Powell cant and wont shoot that corner three ball. Milsap can and will when he is open. That opens the floor more for Porzingis to take his guy one on one and score. Opens driving lanes for Doncic and DFS too.

J_T · Post #369 » by **J_T** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:33 pm

arkuo wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:As I said in offseason, this team needs a guy like Thad Young/Millsap type of forward.

This 100%.

If this current team adds Paul Milsap, with what he is currently doing in Denver right now, it adds a whole new angle to that offense. Powell cant and wont shoot that corner three ball. Milsap can and will when he is open. That opens the floor more for Porzingis to take his guy one on one and score. Opens driving lanes for Doncic and DFS too.

I would never be adding a player that's going to be 35 when the playoffs start to this team. Players added to the team need to be below 30.

arkuo · Post #370 » by **arkuo** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:45 pm

J_T wrote:
arkuo wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:As I said in offseason, this team needs a guy like Thad Young/Millsap type of forward.

This 100%.

If this current team adds Paul Milsap, with what he is currently doing in Denver right now, it adds a whole new angle to that offense. Powell cant and wont shoot that corner three ball. Milsap can and will when he is open. That opens the floor more for Porzingis to take his guy one on one and score. Opens driving lanes for Doncic and DFS too.

I would never be adding a player that's going to be 35 when the playoffs start to this team. Players added to the team need to be below 30.

Milsap is actually playing great right now. And he is small enough to switch on guards on defense. I've been following a lot of denver games and I can see that he moves well without the ball. Stays inside the paint while Jokic is out. Which is great here because we have KP roaming outside for jumpshots.

Dont get me wrong. If its only a 1 to 2 year deal that's fine. Anything more is a killer. Oh and not at the $30M he is earning from his past contract.

Dwight Powell seems to be the weakest link in that starting lineup, provided that THJ figures out how to play his role. Which he has been doing the past two games. Milsap can do everyhting Powell does but can also shoot that corner 3 just like DFS. With Luka running through picks, he will hit our corners with passes and those guys need to be able shoot and not just catch lobs. I think if we are able to find a way to have Powell + Maxi come off the bench and have a real defensive PF start for us (Like Milsap or Derrick Favors), I'd like to think we are headed towards the right direction. Boban, Lee and Barea wont be with us for very long.

J_T · Post #371 » by **J_T** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:39 pm

Might be interesting to rewatch this interview from end of September:
https://www.nba.com/video/2019/09/30/20190930-kristaps-porzingis
He has always had DPOY in sight, this is not him just contributing his fair share in D.

J_T · Post #372 » by **J_T** » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:26 pm

The resting policy prohibits teams from sitting healthy players in "high-profile" nationally televised games. It also requires teams rest players at home unless there's some "unusual circumstances." Under those guidelines, teams can only rest a healthy player in a home game broadcast on local television.

For any injury, the NBA requires that teams submit documentary proof into a league-supervised portal, according to Spruell and team medical personnel who spoke to ESPN.

The NBA has also given more leeway to players with chronic injuries and major injury histories. That group includes Kawhi Leonard, Joel Embiid, Dejounte Murray and Kristaps Porzingis.

So I guess that KP is allowed to be rested under any circumstances? And it seems that league explicitly allowed load management for him, which means that Mavs (apparently) explicitly asked.

Bluelabel24 · Post #373 » by **Bluelabel24** » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:25 pm

J_T wrote:Might be interesting to rewatch this interview from end of September:
https://www.nba.com/video/2019/09/30/20190930-kristaps-porzingis
He has always had DPOY in sight, this is not him just contributing his fair share in D.

really love this mindset from him.. He played like one at houston. Defense is something one can control night in and night out, he should not let a bad shooting night affect him with bad body language and lack of effort on D. Even the best shooters all time say that everyone would have off nights shooting wise, that is just not in their control. It is in the defensive side that you have control everytime.

J_T · Post #374 » by **J_T** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:32 pm

Mavs head coach Rick Carlisle is also toying with another idea: having the Latvian forward play the center spot more.

Per Brad Townsend of the Dallas Morning News, it’s something he’s seriously considering to take advantage of his floor-spacing and ability to attack off the dribble.

“It’s an option for us,” Carlisle said. “It’s always better if you can play a little bigger than a little smaller from a physical standpoint, especially in a game like (Tuesday’s), where it is so physical.”

“He would be the ultimate stretch-5, with his ability to shoot easily from 30 feet,” Carlisle said. “And he rebounds well and he protects the rim.”

As always, health will be the main issue as banging bodies deep in the interior and being isolated on pick-and-rolls against speedier guards will put his mobility to the test. Still, Carlisle is undeterred and believes it’s worth exploring.

Well, well, well...

arkuo · Post #375 » by **arkuo** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:34 pm

If KP at center is the long term plan, then we will need to go out and sign a burly PF in the summer to do the heavy lifting. You dont want KP in iso situations against Embiid, KAT etc. The goal is the prolong his NBA career and not end it in 5 years. If Carlisle does view him as a stretch 5 then KP will spend most of his time in the perimeter shooting jump shots. That being said, the new PF needs to be able to stay inside and rebound misses.

Ideal candidates:
Derrick Favors
Tristan Thomspon (if he leaves Klutch)

Teffer10 · Post #376 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:57 pm

arkuo wrote:If KP at center is the long term plan, then we will need to go out and sign a burly PF in the summer to do the heavy lifting. You dont want KP in iso situations against Embiid, KAT etc. The goal is the prolong his NBA career and not end it in 5 years. If Carlisle does view him as a stretch 5 then KP will spend most of his time in the perimeter shooting jump shots. That being said, the new PF needs to be able to stay inside and rebound misses.

Ideal candidates:
Derrick Favors
Tristan Thomspon (if he leaves Klutch)

Completely agree and I've said this all along!

Mavs should have done a better job protecting a very important asset. Re-signing Powell was absolutely the dumbest thing that Donnie and Mark have ever done because he provides nothing in terms of supporting KP.
If KP becomes our blue-collar banger who does all of the dirty work, then they better not expect him to give us much offensively and they better be ready for some downtime.

You'd think they would be more careful with a valuable asset that has just come back from a major injury and what do they do???? extend Powell :crazy:

arkuo · Post #377 » by **arkuo** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:11 pm

Something is just not adding up here. I get the whole defense thing. But we didn't just pay the guy the max to play good defense.

Because if that were the case then guys like Aminu would have cost way less. We're paying a premium for KP to score 30 or 40 on a given night. That's where he shines as he can shoot from 40 feet out. Carlisle needs to get KP's offense going and run plays for him.

Post #378 » by **Dirk** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:09 pm

Scored 2 points (only took 8 shots). Still, made great contributions. 13 boards + defense. I.e,

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Jstock12 · Post #379 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:48 pm

Dirk wrote:Scored 2 points (only took 8 shots). Still, made great contributions. 13 boards + defense. I.e,

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Poor Ricky.

bran muffin · Post #380 » by **bran muffin** » Tue Dec 3, 2019 5:41 am

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/12/2/20991249/post-up-dead-nba-brooklyn-nets-joel-embiid

In the pace-and-space era, the post-up play is disappearing. Only one team this season has finished at least 10 percent of its offensive possessions with a post-up. 18 teams are below 5 percent in post-up rate. As recently as 2015, not a single team went that low.

This will be the sixth consecutive season with fewer post-ups than the last, and 2019-20 is on pace for the largest post-up drop-off in more than a decade. The reasons for the play’s excision are all tied together, a result of both rule and strategic changes that have encouraged the rise of Moreyball.

Only 7 individual players this season have used at least 25 percent of their possessions from the post: Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis, LaMarcus Aldridge, Jonas Valanciunas, Al Horford, Carmelo Anthony, and Boban Marjanovic. Five seasons ago, 29 players crossed that threshold; Ten seasons ago, 44 did.... The post-up seems to have gone the way of the midrange jumper, squeezed out of the game by more analytically advantageous shots.

This is why the Mavs don't want KP posting up. It's an inefficient shot comparable to a mid-range jumper. For KP it's even worse. He's not quick enough to get past his defender from the post, and he's not strong enough to back down a defender for a layup. His post-ups almost always results in mid-range jumpers.

This is is also why the Mavs do not need to acquire a traditional big like Steven Adams just for his post defense. There are hardly any players posting up anymore. What's the point of getting a post defense specialist? The only thing of value Adams (or Tristan) can bring is rebounding. And rebounding is not as valuable as a stretch big's ability to space the floor with 3 point shots.