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Steven Adams Trade? 

Post#1 » by turcorox911 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:21 pm

Looks like a lot of us want him, so propose a deal where the Mavs acquire him and post it in this thread.
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Post#3 » by 2011Champs » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:52 pm

I think OKC would want picks we don’t have available to give along with some salary relief. As much as I’d love to have Adams, I don’t think Mavs have the assets to get the deal done. Add to that for some reason Mavs don’t seem to want any frontcourt help at all and are happy with KP and the spare parts.
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Post#4 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:45 pm

Lee, Hardaway, Brunson, and a protected first (or multiple 2s) for Diallo, Schroeder, and Adams
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Post#5 » by arkuo » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:35 am

Sam Presti will demand 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps along with $5M. In which case Cuban just hangs up the phone.
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Post#6 » by Lowtech801 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:22 pm

arkuo wrote:Sam Presti will demand 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps along with $5M. In which case Cuban just hangs up the phone.
Before free agency started and OKC decided to blow things up they were willing to give up a first for any team willing to take him into cap space. Obviously things have changed and we wouldn't be taking him into cap space, but I would think THJ and Jackson + a second would get it done. They get $2m in cap savings plus a 2nd.

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Post#7 » by turcorox911 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:22 pm

dirkforpres wrote:Lee, Hardaway, Brunson, and a protected first (or multiple 2s) for Diallo, Schroeder, and Adams


Throw in Justin Jackson and/or Roby, Kostas, Reaves.
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Post#8 » by turcorox911 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:26 pm

If the Mavs give Powell the same amount of minutes and/or possessions as Adams, then how big of a difference is there?
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Post#9 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:13 pm

Most think Adams will probably be kept around next year and see how he looks when he doesn’t get phased out of the offense after the first quarter. He’s young enough to fit with a new core for several years. The year after next he’ll be an expiring contract and will have more value. I don’t think Presti would ask for three picks from Dallas. However I don’t see a lot of options for a great deal to make a trade happen this year unless Dallas takes back Chris Paul and I know what the response to that will be. :)
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Post#10 » by HMFFL » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:00 pm

2019-20: $25,842,697
2020-21: $27,528,088
2021-22: UFA

We won't be interested due to his contract.

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Post#11 » by dirkforpres » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:34 pm

HMFFL wrote:2019-20: $25,842,697
2020-21: $27,528,088
2021-22: UFA

We won't be interested due to his contract.

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Why? Doesn’t take us out of the Giannis sweepstakes?
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Post#12 » by JES12 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:46 pm

HMFFL wrote:2019-20: $25,842,697
2020-21: $27,528,088
2021-22: UFA

We won't be interested due to his contract.
Agreed. That is why I would not post something for him unless Dwight Powell was involved. Powell/Lee or Powell/THJ, whichever OKC likes better.
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Post#13 » by turcorox911 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:25 am

JES12 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:2019-20: $25,842,697
2020-21: $27,528,088
2021-22: UFA

We won't be interested due to his contract.
Agreed. That is why I would not post something for him unless Dwight Powell was involved. Powell/Lee or Powell/THJ, whichever OKC likes better.


OKC passes on both of those, lol.
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Post#14 » by turcorox911 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:27 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Most think Adams will probably be kept around next year and see how he looks when he doesn’t get phased out of the offense after the first quarter. He’s young enough to fit with a new core for several years. The year after next he’ll be an expiring contract and will have more value. I don’t think Presti would ask for three picks from Dallas. However I don’t see a lot of options for a great deal to make a trade happen this year unless Dallas takes back Chris Paul and I know what the response to that will be. :)


I'd do it, but the Thunder would have to take on THJ, Lee, Justin Jackson, Broekhoff, and then whatever combination of Powell, Kleber, DFS, Boban, or Delon would make the deal work.

So, in other words, not gonna happen, lol.
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Post#15 » by JES12 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:19 am

turcorox911 wrote:
JES12 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:2019-20: $25,842,697
2020-21: $27,528,088
2021-22: UFA

We won't be interested due to his contract.
Agreed. That is why I would not post something for him unless Dwight Powell was involved. Powell/Lee or Powell/THJ, whichever OKC likes better.


OKC passes on both of those, lol.
You are probably right, but that is all I would do to get Adams.
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Post#16 » by HairyGOATee » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:05 am

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turcorox911 wrote:
JES12 wrote:Agreed. That is why I would not post something for him unless Dwight Powell was involved. Powell/Lee or Powell/THJ, whichever OKC likes better.


OKC passes on both of those, lol.
You are probably right, but that is all I would do to get Adams.


I ran a comp between Adams and Powell yday. Adams seems to be better in terms of offensive rebounds, and is slightly better at getting blocks, steals, and committing less turnovers PLUS personal fouls, but Dwight has more range. It's honestly close enough to where I'd rather keep Powell and sell the Thunder on Kleber instead. Ideally though, the Mavs can keep Kleber and just use their TPE on someone like Henson to throw into a trade like this.

I'm still a Chris Paul fan, so if he would have to be included in any deal for Adams, then I'd try to sell the Thunder this.

THJ
Courtney Lee
Delon Wright
Kleber (ideally whoever they get using the TPE instead though)
Justin Jackson
Jalen Brunson
Ryan Broekhoff

That would open up a few roster spots and should pass NBA trade rules. Thunder get rid of CP3's contract, get young assets, and a few expirings too.

Mavs could wind up with a lineup looking like this then.

C: Adams/Powell/Boban
PF: KP/Kleber
SF: DFS/Roby
SG: Luka/Curry/Reaves
PG: CP3/Barea

Then sign guys like Devin Harris and Vince Carter to min contracts, lol. Well, if the Mavs aren't hard-capped after all of this. I would have to run the numbers on that to be sure though.

Obviously not going to happen, but I think that team is better fit to contend than the current team. Although I'm honestly not sure by how much. Definitely a few games though, which is huge in the West. The real key would be getting other players during the summer of 2020.
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Post#17 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:16 am

If I were a mavs fan, I would target Adams and not CP3. A few things about Adams- He would be featured in the offense at the start of both halves and get a quick 4-8 points, then he would be ignored for large stretches of the game. Obviously we would expect his rebounding numbers to go up for obvious reasons.

One negative of the last few seasons is that he tends to wear down as the season continues. Donovan played him way too many minutes. Also, he had a difficult task in okc’s switch-everything defense. Russ would frequently not fight through any screens so Adams is left chasing curry or another guard. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that Adams looks much better in a more balanced offense.
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Post#18 » by Darren » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:14 pm

Trade for Mo Bamba makes more sense. Orlando is still looking for a PG like Brunson. I think Bamba for Brunson, Justin Jackson and a second rounder may get it done. Orlando just retained Vucevic to a boated contract.
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Post#19 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:08 am

Darren wrote:Trade for Mo Bamba makes more sense. Orlando is still looking for a PG like Brunson. I think Bamba for Brunson, Justin Jackson and a second rounder may get it done. Orlando just retained Vucevic to a boated contract.


I'd love Bamba.
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Post#20 » by HairyGOATee » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:09 am

ThunderBolt wrote:If I were a mavs fan, I would target Adams and not CP3. A few things about Adams- He would be featured in the offense at the start of both halves and get a quick 4-8 points, then he would be ignored for large stretches of the game. Obviously we would expect his rebounding numbers to go up for obvious reasons.

One negative of the last few seasons is that he tends to wear down as the season continues. Donovan played him way too many minutes. Also, he had a difficult task in okc’s switch-everything defense. Russ would frequently not fight through any screens so Adams is left chasing curry or another guard. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that Adams looks much better in a more balanced offense.


Do you know if OKC is looking to move Adams? What would they want in return?

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