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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#221 » by ejs78 » Sat Aug 1, 2020 12:06 am

Whos you're NBA comp for him?

I got Mikal Bridges
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ejs78 wrote:With a player sure, but wouldnt do the pick. Can get another solid piece like Brunson.
aggerrard wrote:Vassell, Nesmith or Saddiq Bey - i'd trade up with a player or the 2nd round pick to get one of them.


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If Vassell becomes available for both of our picks I'd do it in a heartbeat. Bey should be there for us but I wouldn't pick him....not enough upside imo.
Not sure about Nesmith. I was pretty high on him earlier this year but have cooled off. He is basically a Wes Matthews clone in just about all aspects of his game but I'm not sure I'd give up #31 with #18 to get him. Vassell would be a no-brainer for both picks imo.
I'd even consider both picks and Brunson for Vassell. Vassell is legit starter material and a perfect fit for what we need. He is DFS with a much higher ceiling.


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#222 » by Teffer10 » Sat Aug 1, 2020 11:24 am

aggerrard wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:With a player sure, but wouldnt do the pick. Can get another solid piece like Brunson.

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If Vassell becomes available for both of our picks I'd do it in a heartbeat. Bey should be there for us but I wouldn't pick him....not enough upside imo.
Not sure about Nesmith. I was pretty high on him earlier this year but have cooled off. He is basically a Wes Matthews clone in just about all aspects of his game but I'm not sure I'd give up #31 with #18 to get him. Vassell would be a no-brainer for both picks imo.
I'd even consider both picks and Brunson for Vassell. Vassell is legit starter material and a perfect fit for what we need. He is DFS with a much higher ceiling.

Fair. This is the first year i've tried to watch some college ball, so my scouting abilities are likely poor... :lol:

Just feel like those 3 are great fits to be immediate starters in the NBA, all great 3&D prospects which will fit on the team.

I don't think they are poor at all because all 3 of them would fit well on the Mavs.
I just think Vassell has tremendous upside with a ceiling of the Matrix and would be a great fit for our needs.
Nesmith is starter material, and could become a nice fitting piece, but I see his ceiling much lower because of his lack of athleticism.
I see Bey as an instant contributor but with a ceiling as a role player similar as DFS and Maxi. He would be a solid fit and would help our ailing wing defending situation.

I think you offer up some very nice options for the Mavs. If Nesmith could slip to us at 18 I'd definitely like to see the Mavs take Paul Reed at 31 because he is an outstanding defender and could fill an enormous need. He has decent size, long, can rebound and can basically guard all 5 positions in today's NBA. Similar game as Aminu but he does have a very ugly looking shot that I'm not sure can be fixed.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#223 » by Teffer10 » Sat Aug 1, 2020 11:30 am

ejs78 wrote:Whos you're NBA comp for him?

I got Mikal Bridges
Teffer10 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:With a player sure, but wouldnt do the pick. Can get another solid piece like Brunson.

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If Vassell becomes available for both of our picks I'd do it in a heartbeat. Bey should be there for us but I wouldn't pick him....not enough upside imo.
Not sure about Nesmith. I was pretty high on him earlier this year but have cooled off. He is basically a Wes Matthews clone in just about all aspects of his game but I'm not sure I'd give up #31 with #18 to get him. Vassell would be a no-brainer for both picks imo.
I'd even consider both picks and Brunson for Vassell. Vassell is legit starter material and a perfect fit for what we need. He is DFS with a much higher ceiling.


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Bridges does come to mind but I think Vassell has the upside of the Matrix in terms of impact because he is super athletic, can defend several positions, has a high motor, and can shoot the 3. I'm not sure Bridges has that potential.

Luka/THJ/Vassell/DFS/KP could become an extremely dangerous SL in a couple years.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#224 » by ejs78 » Sat Aug 1, 2020 5:26 pm

After last night's its clear who ever they take has to be able to guard a at minimum.
Teffer10 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Whos you're NBA comp for him?

I got Mikal Bridges
Teffer10 wrote:If Vassell becomes available for both of our picks I'd do it in a heartbeat. Bey should be there for us but I wouldn't pick him....not enough upside imo.
Not sure about Nesmith. I was pretty high on him earlier this year but have cooled off. He is basically a Wes Matthews clone in just about all aspects of his game but I'm not sure I'd give up #31 with #18 to get him. Vassell would be a no-brainer for both picks imo.
I'd even consider both picks and Brunson for Vassell. Vassell is legit starter material and a perfect fit for what we need. He is DFS with a much higher ceiling.


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Bridges does come to mind but I think Vassell has the upside of the Matrix in terms of impact because he is super athletic, can defend several positions, has a high motor, and can shoot the 3. I'm not sure Bridges has that potential.

Luka/THJ/Vassell/DFS/KP could become an extremely dangerous SL in a couple years.


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#225 » by Teffer10 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 2:43 pm

ejs78 wrote:After last night's its clear who ever they take has to be able to guard a at minimum.
Teffer10 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Whos you're NBA comp for him?

I got Mikal Bridges

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Bridges does come to mind but I think Vassell has the upside of the Matrix in terms of impact because he is super athletic, can defend several positions, has a high motor, and can shoot the 3. I'm not sure Bridges has that potential.

Luka/THJ/Vassell/DFS/KP could become an extremely dangerous SL in a couple years.


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I'm almost completely convinced the Mavs should draft Josh Green if they can't make some type of deal to move up to get Vassell.
The knocks on Green's game is his inability to create going left and inconsistency shooting 3s. However he is a much better catch and shoot 3pt shooter and could become a lock down defender making him the ultimate 3-D candidate. He is also extremely strong and athletic with a long WS which is something we could use in the SL.
After watching Luka last night getting guys wide open for 3 makes me think Green would be a solid addition to this team and he does have an enormous upside. His athleticism and ability to play above the rim would be extremely entertaining playing with Luka.

Right now Green moves up to #2 on my board of realistic candidates for the Mavs behind Vassell. Vassell could only be had via trade but if he somehow falls to the back half of the lotto range, I could see the Mavs getting extremely aggressive to move up for him. Poku was my #2 guy but now my order would be Vassell/Green/Poku/Nesmith/Lewis.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#226 » by dirkforpres » Sun Aug 9, 2020 3:10 pm

I still think Mavs should get Hampton, and they might not even have to move up in order to do so. Either that, or of course trade the picks and get out of the draft completely
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#227 » by ejs78 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 9:30 pm

Green & Tyler Bey at 31 I would be happy.

I know both have their issues shooting but it would increase how athletic this team is drastically and improve the D. Could then add someone like Dragic to to help with the 2nd unit.

Only issue with all this is the Mavs don't like the draft.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#228 » by Darren » Today 3:40 am

Jaden McDaniels sounds like a fine pick. Might contribute right away as a pure defender. Don't expect much from offensive production standpoint, though. 6-11 with 6-11 wingspan, outstanding quickness. Shooting form is quick as hell. offensive production will only improve. Compared to Jonathan Issaac.

If Vessell, Nesmith & Bey are gone, I'd consider McDaniels or trade the pick for a similar young player. Target a big who slips all the way to second round.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Discussion 

Post#229 » by Mike lorenzo » Today 8:46 am

I had Mcdaniels as a talented boy High-ceilinged talented ... uncertain floor thin and light I didn't think he was a good defender

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