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Mavericks and Spurs target Facundo Campazzo - the best PG in the Eurolegue 

Post#1 » by Draft2020 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 pm

so a lot of rumours around Europe says that Campazzo will leave Real Madrid to the NBA this summer.
a report said that Spurs and Mavericks are both already interesting in the player.
your thoughts about it? can he be also a good player in the NBA?






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Post#2 » by deb » Fri May 1, 2020 11:26 am

I didn't like him in Madrid, short, not really good at anything, got in the way most of the time I felt. I think as the second squad's floor general he'd be okay, but when you already have Brunson as a point guard off the bench and then Wright and Curry as a sort of combo guards plus possibly JJB for another year, what's the point. He wouldn't move the needle much in any way. I guess if JJB's not around anymore and the mavs trade at least one of Brunson/Curry/Wright, than OK, otherwise pass for me.
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Post#3 » by dirkforpres » Fri May 1, 2020 1:17 pm

I’m typically not a huge fan of undersized guards, especially taking into account his age and poor shooting....

But if he comes cheap and Luka vouches for him, he might be worth a look
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Post#4 » by taibumu » Fri May 1, 2020 2:38 pm

deb wrote:I didn't like him in Madrid, short, not really good at anything, got in the way most of the time I felt. I think as the second squad's floor general he'd be okay, but when you already have Brunson as a point guard off the bench and then Wright and Curry as a sort of combo guards plus possibly JJB for another year, what's the point. He wouldn't move the needle much in any way. I guess if JJB's not around anymore and the mavs trade at least one of Brunson/Curry/Wright, than OK, otherwise pass for me.
With all my respect, you don't have any *ucking idea about Campazzo.
Short? Best defender in Europe like PG.
Not really good at anything? You need glasses men. Tremendous IQ, very very competitive, the best assistant of the team and top two in Europe. ADN argentino. It's a gambler with the ball.
Are we talking about the same man?

I wish he stays in Madrid, you don't deserve it.

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Post#5 » by UcanUwill » Fri May 1, 2020 3:11 pm

deb wrote:I didn't like him in Madrid, short, not really good at anything, got in the way most of the time I felt. I think as the second squad's floor general he'd be okay, but when you already have Brunson as a point guard off the bench and then Wright and Curry as a sort of combo guards plus possibly JJB for another year, what's the point. He wouldn't move the needle much in any way. I guess if JJB's not around anymore and the mavs trade at least one of Brunson/Curry/Wright, than OK, otherwise pass for me.


Not very good at anything? He is like top 5 passer in the world.
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Post#6 » by deb » Fri May 1, 2020 3:43 pm

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deb wrote:I didn't like him in Madrid, short, not really good at anything, got in the way most of the time I felt. I think as the second squad's floor general he'd be okay, but when you already have Brunson as a point guard off the bench and then Wright and Curry as a sort of combo guards plus possibly JJB for another year, what's the point. He wouldn't move the needle much in any way. I guess if JJB's not around anymore and the mavs trade at least one of Brunson/Curry/Wright, than OK, otherwise pass for me.


Not very good at anything? He is like top 5 passer in the world.


Top five passer in the world? I'll admit I based my opinion of him on the 17/18 season when I saw Real games regularly and he really annoyed the hell out of me back then. After further research I guess he turned a corner in the last two seasons. But a top five passer in the world?
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Post#7 » by UcanUwill » Fri May 1, 2020 3:57 pm

deb wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
deb wrote:I didn't like him in Madrid, short, not really good at anything, got in the way most of the time I felt. I think as the second squad's floor general he'd be okay, but when you already have Brunson as a point guard off the bench and then Wright and Curry as a sort of combo guards plus possibly JJB for another year, what's the point. He wouldn't move the needle much in any way. I guess if JJB's not around anymore and the mavs trade at least one of Brunson/Curry/Wright, than OK, otherwise pass for me.


Not very good at anything? He is like top 5 passer in the world.


Top five passer in the world? I'll admit I based my opinion of him on the 17/18 season when I saw Real games regularly and he really annoyed the hell out of me back then. After further research I guess he turned a corner in the last two seasons. But a top five passer in the world?


He looked like bust signing at first, but guy did turn the corner. big time. He has exact same assist rates as Calathes, and everyone says how Calathes is best passer in Euroleague ever. I think Campazzo gets overlooked here, because he plays far less minutes than Calathes, so people do not really realize how insane his stats are. He actually beats Calathes in assists per minute slightly.

Who would you say even are best passers in the world ? To me, there is clear top 10, all have cases for top 5.

LeBron
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Post#8 » by Michaellam1987 » Sat May 2, 2020 4:27 am

Does his height and body frame really can sustain in NBA level?
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Post#9 » by arkuo » Sat May 2, 2020 3:27 pm

A JJ Barea reppacement, maybe? 3rd stringer. Would play early season minutes while Brunson is recovering from his torn labrum. Either that or the rehab isn't progressing well. Who knows.
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Post#10 » by arkuo » Wed May 6, 2020 12:09 pm

Another thing to note is Campazzo is Argentinian teammates with former Mav Nicolas Brussino.
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Post#11 » by HairyGOATee » Fri May 8, 2020 9:40 pm

That'd be interesting I guess, but honestly, I think the team is fine with their guards, unless they want to get someone like Beal, Booker, Lavine, or Hield.

The team needs a combo forward, ideally someone that can play defense, shoot 3s, and if they can handle the ball, make plays, catch lobs, etc., then that'd be cool too...lol.

I'd even take an offensive specialist like Gallo.
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Post#12 » by Mike lorenzo » Sun May 10, 2020 10:34 am

He is a genius, top 10 guards as far as talent, complicated adjustment to the NBA is small and light ... question of styles, many super talented Europeans failed to shine in the USA, I do not know why (I am Spanish and I see it from afar) Djordjevic, Teodosic, * Juan carlos "bomba" Navarro *, Spanoulis or Nando de colo, all from my point of view with talent above average at least to have longer races there. Especially it bothers me the case of "la bomba" Navarro Although I don't know what exactly happened, having a long career and showing a level at least similar to that shown by Luka in Euroleague and ACB and multiples MVP and records europeans
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Post#13 » by deb » Sun May 10, 2020 2:24 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:He is a genius, top 10 guards as far as talent, complicated adjustment to the NBA is small and light ... question of styles, many super talented Europeans failed to shine in the USA, I do not know why (I am Spanish and I see it from afar) Djordjevic, Teodosic, * Juan carlos "bomba" Navarro *, Spanoulis or Nando de colo, all from my point of view with talent above average at least to have longer races there. Especially it bothers me the case of "la bomba" Navarro Although I don't know what exactly happened, having a long career and showing a level at least similar to that shown by Luka in Euroleague and ACB and multiples MVP and records europeans


My takes on players mentined:

Navarro was too short and slow for a shooting guard and wasn't exactly a point guard either. Having said that, he was more than decent his one season in the NBA, averaging 11 points per game on decent percentages. Problem with Navarro was, that he didn't really want to play in the NBA. He joined Memphis to play with his friend Pau, but Memphis traded Pau to LAL before the start of the season, so Navarro deiced to rather return to Europe after one year.

Spanoulis became a true star in Europe after he returned from the NBA, needed some time to mature imo. Also clashed with the front office and the coach in Houston, which hurt him even more.

Teodosić was already over the hill when he came over and still managed a decent season. And he was barely physical enough for the Euroleague in his prime, much less so for the NBA in his 30ies.

Nando de Colo was good, but not in the same category as the three mentioned above, he was a backup player and could be a rotational piece if he stayed in the NBA imo.

Đorđević came over at a time when the NBA didn't trust Euros, and wasn't athletic enough.

As for Campazzo, I think his size wouldn't be as much of a problem as it is for Trae for example, because he's stronger and more agressive. But he wouldn't be able to guard bigger guards. Overall he would be a decent bench commander in the NBA imo, but mavs are already chock full of backup point guards, i really don't see the point of bringing him over, while all of mavs second string pgs are still on the roster. There's also the problem of price, supposedly, he has a release clause of 7 million. Meaning, Real would have to be given 7 million and then there Campazzo's contract on top of that. Now I don't know how those 7 million would impact the mavs cap, but Jalen Brunson's quite a bit younger, on a minimum contract, has two years of experience with the mavs and the NBA and isn't significantly worse than Campazzo overall imo, so what's the point?
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Post#14 » by taibumu » Sun May 10, 2020 7:58 pm

If you think that Campazzo is light or can't guard bigger players, you don't know him at all.

Give Real Madrid to Luka back and Real will defeats Dallas without doubt.

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Post#15 » by JamesConway » Sun May 10, 2020 8:15 pm

I remember this guy from scouting Luka before the draft. He was incredibly annoying lol, just a nasty chucker who loved to give a poor man's JJ Barea-impression going 1-vs-5 regularly.

As long as JJB is still around we have that spot covered. Not sure what he wants to do after the season, but I happily take the NBA-seasoned vet JJB over Campazzo every time.
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Post#16 » by BlueSan » Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm

Personally think would be a bad move.

Doesnt have the size and didn't exactly match with Luka in fact was upset every time the guy hit the floor.

1st because he was taking ball from Luka's arms, second, because he wasn't the most willing passer to Luka as well. Not to mention his height which is not exactly ideal.
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Post#17 » by Darren » Wed May 13, 2020 3:11 pm

I think the Mavs is better off signing DJ Augustin, a Texas native, to run the 2nd unit offense at similar price tag to JJ.

I think the Mavs may move Jalen on draft day for a trade-up option or for a young big like Mo Bamba. It would be foolish not to trade up for either Devin Vessell or Aaron Nesmith. At 18, the Mavs will be highly unlikely to net either. Perhaps, Bey is available. Both the immediate impact of either elite defender or elite shooter is more appealing. Anyway, I really don't think highly of Brunson running the offense long-term. Even less for Delon Wright. I think playing less JJ is problematic last season. The 2nd unit offense is chaotic most of the time.
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Post#18 » by Paul Overt » Wed May 20, 2020 7:20 am

It is absurd to talk about players who are in Europe with many of the Americans. Because they do not know anything about it and they are not interested in knowing, they deal with prejudices based on nothing. I'm just passing to leave some videos:



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Post#19 » by DoctorMiau » Mon Jun 1, 2020 7:39 pm

Campazzo has for sure the talent to make it to an NBA roster, hes got just not the body for it, not only because of his height, but because he is just not that good of an athlete to hold his own against 90% of the current guards in the league.

It is hard not to compare him with Barea. Campazzo is the better playmaker, while JJ is a much better scorer, which is why he was able to carve a role on the Mavs in the first place.

I dont think its a good fit next to Luka as well. A much better fit for the Mavs would actually be his teammate at both Real Madrid and the national argentinian team, Gabriel Deck, who is been already linked to the NBA too.
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Post#20 » by BlueSan » Thu Jun 4, 2020 5:41 pm

Last and final reason is because Mavs have Brunson, no need to stack up on that spot, there are other players from Euroleague on a wing for instance that Mavs could target

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