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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#561 » by jpengland » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:06 am

arkuo wrote:
aggerrard wrote:Isn't he getting paid this summer? Wont be the team to give him 20 million a year


Exactly why we need to send Powell + picks out. Essentially we turned Powell into an expiring contract which clears Dallas' books. With Powell, THJ, Richardson, and Johnson all cleared, that may be enough to have 2 max contract slots.

Nope. Still wouldn't give us 2 max slots. We would have 70 - 75m tied in guaranteed money and roster holds. More importantly, who are the two max players who you would get?
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#562 » by arkuo » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:15 am

Robert Covington's value is way down this season. If Donnie can swing a move for Powell + 2 first rounders for Covington, that would be nice. RoCo can play PF but can switch on defense to any guard. Something we could really use.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#563 » by arkuo » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:22 pm

Interesting thought..

Would you throw $30M per to Michael Porter Jr in 2022 when he's RFA?

Doing so means the Mavs are betting he turns into an all star based on potential.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#564 » by Mike lorenzo » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:30 pm

arkuo wrote:Interesting thought..

Would you throw $30M per to Michael Porter Jr in 2022 when he's RFA?

Doing so means the Mavs are betting he turns into an all star based on potential.

Blazers are unlikely to accept that kind of offer ... they themselves paid 1 first round + Ariza expiring ... also they want to win now, and that offer doesn't help them so that such..
JRich + Carter..Portland.
Covington ..Mavs
Brunson + Gilles ... Bulls ...
Powell's value is very low.
Maybe Wizards Powell + Terry for Bertans .. ?? Or something bigger for Horford ..?
Porter Jr is loved by Denver ... they won't let him go
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#565 » by Apz » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:34 pm

arkuo wrote:Robert Covington's value is way down this season. If Donnie can swing a move for Powell + 2 first rounders for Covington, that would be nice. RoCo can play PF but can switch on defense to any guard. Something we could really use.


We dont have 2 1sts, and covington is not worth a 1st at all with his play. Once 3d guy cant stay infront of his guy abd is down at 35%, what is his worth?

About MPJ. Personally wouldnt mind But can u imagibe the mavs fans on these boards complauning abiut his injuries? U see the complaints about KP
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#566 » by Mike lorenzo » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:08 pm

If Hornets go down and we don't ... Go after Hayward ... he ticks (almost) all the boxes 2 handler Good shooter play 3/4 .. It has a good size. can play good defense ... and i guess we have the assets to catch it .. Green + Johnson + Powell .. + 1 future first round available. should be close
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#567 » by Captain_Obvious » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:54 pm

I hope Donnie can perform some magic and somehow exchange Johnson/Dwight for Derozan. Throw in all picks and the kitchen sink.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#568 » by dirkforpres » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:18 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:I hope Donnie can perform some magic and somehow exchange Johnson/Dwight for Derozan. Throw in all picks and the kitchen sink.


I think I’d rather have Aldridge than Derozan but I doubt they’d do us any favors either way. Myles Turner is worth throwing the kitchen sink at though IMO
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#569 » by arkuo » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:15 am

Would you trade Johnson + Bey + Terry for Lonzo Ball + JJ Reddick?

There are talks for a Lonzo Ball and JJ Reddick trade for Kelly Oubre.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#570 » by Apz » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:50 pm

arkuo wrote:Would you trade Johnson + Bey + Terry for Lonzo Ball + JJ Reddick?

There are talks for a Lonzo Ball and JJ Reddick trade for Kelly Oubre.


I like thrm to some extent but I wouldnt do it. We git a backcourt of luka, brunsin, trey, thj, jrich, green. But after that trade we only woukd have kleber at pf and who knows how long til he is in shape. Atm I would say a backup or starter pf is most important, questiin is if we can get someone that adds mire then johnson tho
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#571 » by dirkules_41 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:33 pm

arkuo wrote:Would you trade Johnson + Bey + Terry for Lonzo Ball + JJ Reddick?

There are talks for a Lonzo Ball and JJ Reddick trade for Kelly Oubre.

The value isn't bad but I don't see the fit for us really.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#572 » by dirkforpres » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm

arkuo wrote:Would you trade Johnson + Bey + Terry for Lonzo Ball + JJ Reddick?

There are talks for a Lonzo Ball and JJ Reddick trade for Kelly Oubre.


I’d love it, but I think Brunson or Burke should be involved instead of Bey or Terry. Mavs have no one that can hit an open 3, so Redick would be a really nice grab... idk why, but I still believe in Lonzo too for some reason.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#573 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:52 pm

arkuo wrote:Would you trade Johnson + Bey + Terry for Lonzo Ball + JJ Reddick?

There are talks for a Lonzo Ball and JJ Reddick trade for Kelly Oubre.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat.


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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#574 » by arkuo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:04 am

At this very low point in Bradley Beal's career. Does Dallas sends out 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps + THJ + James Johnson for Beal? (Similar to the Paul George package)
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#575 » by dirkforpres » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:24 am

arkuo wrote:At this very low point in Bradley Beal's career. Does Dallas sends out 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps + THJ + James Johnson for Beal? (Similar to the Paul George package)


Anything Washington wants from Dallas minus Luka, they can have. This team is a diamond covered completely in feces
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#576 » by Bluelabel24 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:44 am

arkuo wrote:At this very low point in Bradley Beal's career. Does Dallas sends out 3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps + THJ + James Johnson for Beal? (Similar to the Paul George package)

love Beals game.. anything we can offer aside from luka, we should. Beal is still pretty young at 27 and fits perfectly next to luka.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#577 » by arkuo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:22 am

Lets make Beal to Dallas happen, Donnie! I volunteer to drive THJ to the airport.

That Beal in Washington thing is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. I can see a trade request coming.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#578 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:52 am

With Luca, you'll always get a good day from 2 of THJ, JRich, DFS, Brunson, Burke, and KP/Maxi at the 4 is good enough.
The teams needs are:
1. Center, rebounder, defense on the switch, and finisher, Drummond fills this gap, Johnson + Powell + one of the young should do it, if the Cavs insist on Johnsin and Jrich, I'd also pull the trigger, Myles Turner would be amazing, but you don't have the assets to get him.
2. PG for the second unit, Brunson/Burke are scorers and can be Iverson on one day, and not G-league worthy on the other, I assume that's why you're trying to achieve with Tyler Terry, but I think you need someone more ready.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#579 » by fuller4379 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:58 am

Trade everyone but Luka to any team for a bunch of G Leaguers.
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Re: Trade Discussion 20/21 

Post#580 » by arkuo » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:48 am

KhalilS wrote:With Luca, you'll always get a good day from 2 of THJ, JRich, DFS, Brunson, Burke, and KP/Maxi at the 4 is good enough.



What do you mean always get a good day from...

Luka is the Slovenian Russell Westbrook. He can average a triple double everyday for the next 20 years, and even if he had Bradley Beal getting 30 pts every game next to him, they still wont win much. Just look at the Wizards now. Dallas is on the same boat. Luka is getting good stats on a bad team. Something has to adjust here I would think. Ideally Westbrook needed KD to look really good. Unfortunately Dallas' version of KD re-signed in Milwaukee.

It is my theory that Luka has to take a step back and keep feeding a 1A player. The Lakers were most successful when Lebron kept feeding AD in the finals. The 87 Lakers were even more unstoppable when Kareem scores big games, not when Magic got 30 pts. These players, Lebron, Magic they're more successful when they have someone to feed the ball to. Not when they try to score 50 themselves. Luka is in the same mold. The key there is Porzingis. He is paid the max so he needs to perform like a max player. If Luka kept feeding him the ball everytime he has the POTENTIAL to score in the high 30s. The problem is with KP I think. He's not there yet, but he could get there with development. His height and shooting says he has the potential to be unguardable. Luka needs to make more plays and less step back jumpers the way Lebron feeds AD. Again, that's just my theory. Luka keeps trying to score like he's Kobe when in fact he is more Lebron. more ball movement, more plays, more mismatches. He's not Kobe. there is no need for 35 foot stepback jumpers all game at 27%. it's a learning curve, but when Luka learns to be selfless and trusts that he has teammates who can take the last shot, then that's the time he will mature and be successful.

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