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That's the problem with creating cap space for later : you end up with no one great left to sign and have to overpay for someone who's not really a difference maker. People get way too excited about cap space.

Who do you want them to sign with the cap space? Porter Jr.? Drummond? Oladipo?

I wish the team stopped putting too much stack in free agency and just build a roster when they have the chance. Maybe there was some sign and trades available this year if they were willing to take on long term salary.

Well, if there is a 5% chance that u can land someone like Giannis u have to create the capspace for it. Its not very often u have as big chance as we had this year to land that kind of player. He choose to renew in the end, good for him and Bucks, but we were a destination for him considering he had his people do calculations considering texas taxes and so on.'

Would say there is like Kawhi left of the UFA that is worth big money. A few of the RFA I wouldnt mind like Markkanen and someone I now forgot. We will see what they do, Mark got intelligent people in the organization so bet they have a backup plan ready or 3

Who are trade targets we can go for with THJ and Johnsons cap relief?

Yeah, Giannis was worth the restraint of keeping future cap open.
Landing Giannis was always a shot in the dark but he's a 2xMVP and would have been incredible with Luka. Seems the narrative with Giannis now is that he enjoys the position of being a franchise figurehead and teaming up with another star meant he would be "the other star" sort of like how KD was 2nd in fan appreciation to Steph in Golden State.

Given how the past few seasons have played out with guys moving like Westbrook, Kawhi, PG, and Harden wanting out I think 2021 can still throw surprises the Mav's way. I just hope Donnie has plans A thru Z planned out in anticipation for future craziness.

No good free agents left, unless you believe in Oladipo. Don’t be surprised if the Mavs just use the space to acquire extra picks or a worthwhile asset while absorbing a salary dump now.

I think Oubre will be good, but I also think we better pray our rookies will develop and THJ performs well and we extend the guy. We would do well to play WCS, Hinton, etc and see what we really have

We have tons of guys on expiring contracts and with Free agency hole it suddenly becomes make it or break it year

There is never a sure thing in building a team. Its always about probabilities. The cap play for Giannis was well worth it. Even if the odds of him coming to Dallas were always low, the upside was so enormous, it was worth doing. And I can't think of anything the Mavs really gave up to do it.

The 2021 free agent class has thinned out dramatically. Oladipo is the best at this time. But he has been rumored to want to go to Miami anyway, so he might be out. I think that leaves Otto Porter next. Maybe Oubre. There could be some unexpected and unlikely PO options like Kwahi or Griffin.

That leaves trading for a player who is better than THJ, but on a terrible contract. Tobias Harris comes to mind, but there are probably a few others. I think the Mavs should be focused on this during the season.

The most likely outcome to all of this is just resigning THJ. I think that has been the case all the way through. I had hoped they could do better and agree with their plan, but this is how it has worked out. Even then, its still OK. If Luka can play at an MVP level and KP has health and plays at an All-star level, this is a young, contending team for several years.

Realistically, only two guys come to mind. Forget Kawhi Leonard.

Victor Oladipo - outright signing if he wants out of Indiana
Spencer Dinwiddie - has a player option he can exercise if he wants a starting role here.

Or you can try pissing Pat RIley off by driving the price up for Duncan Robinson.

Another idea is we free up Sacramento some cash by sending them THJ + Josh Green + Tyler Bey for Harrison Barnes and Haliburton.

Works for me. Mavs were rumored to have been chasing Haliburton.

Mavs fans know this by now they don't attract free agents.

Now what they do well is swing for trades and with THjr and Johnson both on expiring deals they are in a good position for a deal (Chicago, Orlando, and Indy feel like trade candidates)

If they want to chase RFAs they could go that route too with someone like Collins or Issac.

They're in a good spot regardless of what they do.

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arkuo wrote:Another idea is we free up Sacramento some cash by sending them THJ + Josh Green + Tyler Bey for Harrison Barnes and Haliburton.

Works for me. Mavs were rumored to have been chasing Haliburton.

Getting Barnes back would be the best move.

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Issac just got 4yr 80 million
Fultz 3yr 50 million

When they start to fade Gordon will be moved.

ejs78 wrote:Mavs fans know this by now they don't attract free agents.

Now what they do well is swing for trades and with THjr and Johnson both on expiring deals they are in a good position for a deal (Chicago, Orlando, and Indy feel like trade candidates)

If they want to chase RFAs they could go that route too with someone like Collins or Issac.

They're in a good spot regardless of what they do.

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arkuo wrote:Another idea is we free up Sacramento some cash by sending them THJ + Josh Green + Tyler Bey for Harrison Barnes and Haliburton.

Works for me. Mavs were rumored to have been chasing Haliburton.

I don't see any way that Sac trades Haliburton for what we would have to offer.
Haliburton could easily become the steal of the draft and has the credentials to become ROY.

And I doubt the Mavs would want Barnes back when it was clear he wasn't a good fit to begin with.

But if Sac would be crazy enough to offer that deal the Mavs would be completely crazy if they didn't take it in a heartbeat.

At this point in time it Shocks me we aint extending Hardaway. All the 2021 Free agents and their moms are being signed

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2021/

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2021/center/

Andre Drummond CLE C 28 9 UFA Bird $25,434,263
Gorgui Dieng MEM C 31 8 UFA Bird $15,700,000
Cody Zeller CHA C 28 8 UFA Bird $14,000,000
Serge Ibaka LAC C 32 11 PO $9,489,450
Meyers Leonard MIA C 29 8 CO $9,400,000
Deandre Ayton PHX C 23 2 CO $9,248,760
Robin Lopez WAS C 33 13 UFA Non-Bird $7,300,000
Daniel Theis BOS C 29 4 UFA Bird $5,000,000
Nerlens Noel NYK C 27 8 UFA Non-Bird $5,000,000
Ed Davis MIN C 32 11 UFA Early Bird $4,886,175
Enes Kanter POR C 29 10 UFA Early Bird $4,886,175
Richaun Holmes SAC C 27 6 UFA Early Bird $4,886,175
JaVale McGee CLE C 33 13 UFA Bird $4,100,000
Willie Cauley-Stein DAL C 28 5 CO $4,100,000
Zach Collins POR C 23 4 RFA Bird $4,083,154
Boban Marjanovic DAL C 33 6 UFA Early Bird $3,500,000
Bismack Biyombo CHA C 29 10 UFA Non-Bird $3,500,000
Goga Bitadze IND C 22 1 CO $2,887,140
Dwight Howard PHI C 35 17 UFA Non-Bird $2,564,753
Vincent Poirier PHI C 27 2 RFA Early Bird $2,562,500
Jarrett Allen BKN C 23 4 RFA Bird $2,508,646
DeMarcus Cousins HOU C 31 10 UFA $2,331,593
Hassan Whiteside SAC C 32 9 UFA Non-Bird $2,320,044
Alex Len TOR C 28 8 UFA Non-Bird $2,258,000
Luke Kornet CHI C 26 4 UFA Early Bird $2,250,000
Tony Bradley PHI C 23 4 RFA Bird $2,149,715
Bol Bol DEN C 21 2 RFA Bird $2,109,696
Moritz Wagner WAS C 24 2 CO $1,995,840
Robert Williams BOS C 23 2 CO $1,873,960
Thon Maker CLE C 24 5 UFA Non-Bird $1,737,145
Willy Hernangomez NOP C 27 5 UFA Non-Bird $1,737,145
Isaiah Hartenstein DEN C 23 2 PO $1,691,680
Harry Giles POR C 23 4 UFA Non-Bird $1,678,854

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2021/power-forward/

Blake Griffin DET PF 32 10 PO $34,234,964
LaMarcus Aldridge SAS PF 36 15 UFA Bird $25,000,000
James Johnson DAL PF 34 12 UFA Bird $14,431,700
Kelly Olynyk MIA PF 30 8 UFA Bird $12,500,000
Paul Millsap DEN PF 36 15 UFA Bird $10,000,000
Montrezl Harrell LAL PF 27 5 PO $9,489,450
Cristiano Felicio CHI PF 29 6 UFA Bird $8,000,000
P.J. Tucker HOU PF 36 10 UFA Bird $7,969,537
JaMychal Green DEN PF 31 6 PO $7,379,754
Nemanja Bjelica SAC PF 33 6 UFA Bird $6,825,000
Jabari Parker SAC PF 26 7 UFA Early Bird $6,500,000
Jonathan Isaac ORL PF 23 4 RFA Bird $5,581,102
Trey Lyles SAS PF 25 6 UFA Early Bird $5,500,000
Lauri Markkanen CHI PF 24 4 RFA Bird $5,097,417
Mike Scott PHI PF 33 9 UFA Early Bird $4,900,000
Kevon Looney GSW PF 25 5 PO $4,821,429
Rui Hachimura WAS PF 23 1 CO $4,581,000
Nicolo Melli NOP PF 30 2 RFA Early Bird $4,000,000
PJ Washington CHA PF 23 1 CO $3,927,720
Bobby Portis MIL PF 26 5 PO $3,713,575

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2021/small-forward/

Kawhi Leonard LAC SF 30 9 PO $34,379,100
Otto Porter Jr. CHI SF 28 8 UFA Bird $26,631,244
Andre Iguodala MIA SF 37 16 CO $15,000,000
Kelly Oubre Jr. GSW SF 25 6 UFA Bird $15,000,000
Will Barton DEN SF 30 8 PO $13,250,000
Justise Winslow MEM SF 25 5 CO $13,000,000
Trevor Ariza OKC SF 36 17 UFA Early Bird $12,500,000
Derrick Jones Jr. POR SF 24 4 PO $9,489,450
Doug McDermott IND SF 29 7 UFA Bird $7,333,333
De'Andre Hunter ATL SF 23 1 CO $7,245,180
Darius Miller OKC SF 31 7 UFA Bird $7,125,000
Cam Reddish ATL SF 22 1 CO $4,351,860
Kevin Knox NYK SF 22 2 CO $4,236,240
Cameron Johnson PHX SF 25 1 CO $4,134,300
Reggie Bullock NYK SF 30 8 UFA Early Bird $4,100,000
Mikal Bridges PHX SF 25 2 CO $4,024,320

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2021/shooting-guard/

DeMar DeRozan SAS SG 32 12 UFA Bird $27,800,000
Jrue Holiday MIL SG 31 11 PO $26,361,000
Victor Oladipo IND SG 29 8 UFA Bird $21,250,000
Tim Hardaway Jr.DAL SG 29 8 UFA Bird $17,737,500
Evan Fournier ORL SG 28 9 UFA Bird $17,000,000
Danny Green PHI SG 34 12 UFA Early Bird $15,000,000
J.J. Redick NOP SG 37 15 UFA Early Bird $13,250,000
Tony Snell ATL SG 29 8 UFA Bird $11,500,000
Norman Powell TOR SG 28 5 PO $10,491,264
Josh Richardson DAL SG 28 5 PO $10,491,264

Maybe we see the Mavs looking to get active in trade scenarios by the TDL since trades could secure talent that is better than what we would grab in free agency.

Lol. Saving cap space for nothing.

KP & Collins fit well. Yeah, his defense sucks. But he could be the legitimate 2nd option DAL can rely on every night.

He's not the perfect target but I wonder if they'd be interested.

dirkforpres wrote:No good free agents left, unless you believe in Oladipo. Don’t be surprised if the Mavs just use the space to acquire extra picks or a worthwhile asset while absorbing a salary dump now.

Wow that would be amazing to see. Have the assets overloading so you can pounce when a good fit becomes available.

Wouldn't mind signing Otto Porter and Oubre - and then use bird rights to resign THJ and Richardson.