RS 20/21 - Mavs @ Raptors (7:30 PMEST)

[Bob8]

That part is what concerns a lot of people. Because what he gets paid will affect (and limit) what moves the team can do moving forward. And THJ paid $18 to 20M is not looking competitive when you have KP and Luka maxed out and a re-signed J-RIch, that's essentially your team moving forward. That's good for 5th in the West if you ask me.

The question is, who you can get better than THJ for 18 millions or less? THJ, who could create for himself too, is a star in these league. Old Galo has got 63 from Hawks for 3 seasons. Perfect player for Mavs would be someone like Mikal Bridges, but he will be paid by Suns. You can let THJ walk, but there's very good chance, you won't get at least similar player instead him. The best way would be rookies, but this is even less realistic considering how they look.

The analogy for that thinking is buying something you dont need in the department store because it is on sale. The main point is why overspend on it in the first place? Just do what Cuban does in the past decade. Sign vets on 1 year deals every year until you catch a big fish.

And how many big fish has Cuban caught? Luka is not Dirk, he won't wait no matter what.

[arkuo]

The question is, who you can get better than THJ for 18 millions or less? THJ, who could create for himself too, is a star in these league. Old Galo has got 63 from Hawks for 3 seasons. Perfect player for Mavs would be someone like Mikal Bridges, but he will be paid by Suns. You can let THJ walk, but there's very good chance, you won't get at least similar player instead him. The best way would be rookies, but this is even less realistic considering how they look.

The analogy for that thinking is buying something you dont need in the department store because it is on sale. The main point is why overspend on it in the first place? Just do what Cuban does in the past decade. Sign vets on 1 year deals every year until you catch a big fish.

And how many big fish has Cuban caught? Luka is not Dirk, he won't wait no matter what.

We know what needs to be done as fans. That's one thing. Having a stubborn owner who thinks he's the smartest investor in the NBA by being on shark tank is another thing. We have a stubborn owner whose ego is bigger than Texas. We know this. He has done this method in the past and can very well apply the same method now. Im with you on that, however I feel that Cuban has other plans and I feel he will wait given his tendencies.

[dirkules_41]

Maybe because, you need at least to shoot, if you want to win. Better question is why don't give some time to Hinton.

Because he actually isn't NBA ready yet.
Also just shooting won't help either - see 0-12 THJ or 0-4 Iwundu.

And Green is ready for 30 minutes?

No but the other options aren't any better so might as well develop our 1st rounder who is showing some degree of promise.

[Bob8]

The analogy for that thinking is buying something you dont need in the department store because it is on sale. The main point is why overspend on it in the first place? Just do what Cuban does in the past decade. Sign vets on 1 year deals every year until you catch a big fish.

And how many big fish has Cuban caught? Luka is not Dirk, he won't wait no matter what.

We know what needs to be done as fans. That's one thing. Having a stubborn owner who thinks he's the smartest investor in the NBA by being on shark tank is another thing. We have a stubborn owner whose ego is bigger than Texas. We know this. He has done this method in the past and can very well apply the same method now. Im with you on that, however I feel that Cuban has other plans and I feel he will wait given his tendencies.

I hope not. Luka is used winning from his 12 year. Playoffs should be minimal goal. If they won't achieve even that few years in a row, Luka will be gone very fast. I believe they should try to play as hard as possible in court and off court. Signing any player, who gets them better. Rookie experiment failed this year, now is time for aggressive trading and signing FA, even if they're not stars. I would try to sign Rubio and trade Brunson/Powell/Green for a solid starter.

[Bob8]

Because he actually isn't NBA ready yet.
Also just shooting won't help either - see 0-12 THJ or 0-4 Iwundu.

And Green is ready for 30 minutes?

No but the other options aren't any better so might as well develop our 1st rounder who is showing some degree of promise.

Green has averaged 26 minutes in last 2 games. More than enough for what he brings to the table.

[oldshoolballer]

I loved this team last year what the hell happened.

[Archx]

I loved this team last year what the hell happened.

COVID

[dirkforpres]

I loved this team last year what the hell happened.

James Johnson came in with some of the lowest basketball IQ I’ve ever seen, we lost our best shooter in a trade, drafted specialists instead of BPA, and Carlisle got his pet (Powell) back

[Bob8]

I loved this team last year what the hell happened.

James Johnson came in with some of the lowest basketball IQ I’ve ever seen, we lost our best shooter in a trade, drafted specialists instead of BPA, and Carlisle got his pet (Powell) back

Exactly, why draft specialists, if you know they won't be ready for at least few years? Who knows, what kind of players will Mavs need then.

[dirkforpres]

I loved this team last year what the hell happened.

James Johnson came in with some of the lowest basketball IQ I’ve ever seen, we lost our best shooter in a trade, drafted specialists instead of BPA, and Carlisle got his pet (Powell) back

Exactly, why draft specialists, if you know they won't be ready for at least few years? Who knows, what kind of players will Mavs need then.

Completely agree. I think everybody would’ve drafted Precious, Bey, or Bane in that spot instead of Green or just gotten out of the first round altogether.

[XTraderXL]

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

[Bob8]

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

I believe it's more about realisation that team is not much better than last year. Rookies near 0, Iwundo 0, Johnson some good things, but totally overshadowed with his mistakes, so the only one is Richardson vs. Curry, I like Richardson more, but can understand people, who like Seth more. All in all one big 0 improvement in the roster. D. really looks better, we will see how will offense look, when all players are back. I believe expectations were much bigger before the season.

[fuller4379]

It is not time to panic yet. We are short four players because of COVID and KP is still getting his game legs. I was surprised to see KP play 4 games in 6 days. I guess that means he is healthy and the were cautious.

[dirkforpres]

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

They’re not overreactions. Porzingis’ busted jumper has nothing to do with being healthy, that’s mental. The rookies provide nothing, Johnson and Iwundu provide even less than that, Hardaway/DFS/J-Rich are too inconsistent, and WCS has hands worse than Erick Dampier.

It doesn’t take a genius to realize something is wrong with this team and that things need to change. Waiting 10 more games in an already shortened season could be the difference between having home court advantage or being in the play-in tournament. Donnie better be on the phones today

[XTraderXL]

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

I believe it's more about realisation that team is not much better than last year. Rookies near 0, Iwundo 0, Johnson some good things, but totally overshadowed with his mistakes, so the only one is Richardson vs. Curry, I like Richardson more, but can understand people, who like Seth more. All in all one big 0 improvement in the roster. D. really looks better, we will see how will offense look, when all players are back. I believe expectations were much bigger before the season.

I think this team is much better than last year, they just havent played together yet. They went 6-4 without their 2nd best player, with out of shape Luka for the first 4-5 games. The had 2 bad games now that half the team is missing and everyone is trying to trade the other half of the team, fire the coach and GM and begging Cuban to sell the team

I believe it will be very different 10-15 games from now and the Mavs will go on a run. The only thing that matters is that they peak when the playoffs start.

[ejs78]

What's wrong is the Mavs are missing players.

They are 1.5 games out of the 4 seed after just being the 4 seed when they were 6-4

Portland just lost Nurkic (8 weeks)and now CJ(4 weeks).Things could be a lot worse.

I think we all need to grasp this isn't a normal season.

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

They’re not overreactions. Porzingis’ busted jumper has nothing to do with being healthy, that’s mental. The rookies provide nothing, Johnson and Iwundu provide even less than that, Hardaway is too inconsistent, and WCS has hands worse than Erick Dampier.

It doesn’t take a genius to realize something is wrong with this team and that things need to change. Waiting 10 more games in an already shortened season could be the difference between having home court advantage or being in the play-in tournament. Donnie better be on the phones today

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[Bob8]

What is up with the overreactions?? KP just came back after an injury, half of the rotation is missing, they have a tough schedule and this was a b2b. Things are not perfect but this team is way better than it looks right now. Give it 10 more games, let the players come back and play a few games together and I am 100% sure they will go on a winning streak. There are 60 games left, teams are close together in terms of wins and losses so everything is fine. If the Mavs dont improve in the next 10-15 games, then it will be time for some changes.

I believe it's more about realisation that team is not much better than last year. Rookies near 0, Iwundo 0, Johnson some good things, but totally overshadowed with his mistakes, so the only one is Richardson vs. Curry, I like Richardson more, but can understand people, who like Seth more. All in all one big 0 improvement in the roster. D. really looks better, we will see how will offense look, when all players are back. I believe expectations were much bigger before the season.

I think this team is much better than last year, they just havent played together yet. They went 6-4 without their 2nd best player, with out of shape Luka for the first 4-5 games. The had 2 bad games now that half the team is missing and everyone is trying to trade the other half of the team, fire the coach and GM and begging Cuban to sell the team

I believe it will be very different 10-15 games from now and the Mavs will go on a run. The only thing that matters is that they peak when the playoffs start.

I believe it's very difficult to rate this start of the season, because other teams have a lot of problems too. Mavs have destroyed Clippers, who were without Kawhi, they beat incredible bad Miami, Orlando was destroyed by injuries, Denver had incredible bad start. This on paper very good wins are far less impressive looking in what condition those teams were. Last 3 games is vice versa, Mavs playing bad because of the injuries. To say they're much better is premature, like is premature to say they are worse. Roster wise I understand, why people are not happy.

[ejs78]

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