RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Suns - part II - (Monday 8:30PM EST)

[Apz]

KP was getting killed on CP3 PnR switches. I can't believe Maxi didn't get more minutes in the 4th Q. He was absolutely amazing in the 1st half. And who the hell drew up that last play ffs...Put Luka or KP on the block and work from there, instead he had to go all the way to the mid court almost to get a shot off...

Well, he has been out for a month. Cang expect him to have his lungs back in the first game. Will probably add some for each game the coming week.

Overall most looked a lot better. I think we still gog some unluck with bounces and stuff. Cant say anything about the end. Kldber locks down cp3 and booker hits an amazibg 3 with jrich hand right there. And then luka is an inch from winning the game.

Oh well, atleast it feels like light in the end of the tunnel. Even if we lost

[leolozon]

Thanks for missed free throw Luka

4 games we win if hit free throws

4 game to over time

What about shooting 32 3-point attempts and making only 31% of them? That 1 FT was the problem, yes.

I think the stats are wrong. As far as I can remember Luka missed 2 FTs. One in the 1st and one in the 2nd. I distinctly remember he was 8/10 at some point which somehow became 9/10 on his next trip to the line. That was very weird to me during the game. Anyone else noticed that or am I crazy?

I noticed the same thing. I also saw that one of his steal was taken away, which I found weird as he seemed to be the one stripping the player, but certainly not as much as a missed FT disappearing.

[Pinkyring]

Is kp just softer than i thought or is it the gsme plan every night to camp him out on the 3 point line despite a pnr switch with a 6'6 guy on him

[Archx]

What about shooting 32 3-point attempts and making only 31% of them? That 1 FT was the problem, yes.

I think the stats are wrong. As far as I can remember Luka missed 2 FTs. One in the 1st and one in the 2nd. I distinctly remember he was 8/10 at some point which somehow became 9/10 on his next trip to the line. That was very weird to me during the game. Anyone else noticed that or am I crazy?

I noticed the same thing. I also saw that one of his steal was taken away, which I found weird as he seemed to be the one stripping the player, but certainly not as much as a missed FT disappearing.

Every site has him at 10/11. Maybe someone stepped in to the lane too fast? No clue what else could happen...

[Absinthe]

Some people need a reality check on this board. Phoenix is a middling team with almost no depth. All I’ve heard for weeks is excuses. It was all, “Wait until we get back to full strength.”

This team is at full strength or very close to it. What is more likely: this team overperformed last season or has come back to Earth this season? I know my answer.

What is truly hilarious is the front office. Houston was trying to unload CP3’s massive salary and the Mavs could have had him. But they honestly thought Giannis was walking through the door. Yeah, CP3 is injury prone but he would be the best playmaker and defender Luka has ever played with. No contest. He can pass, shoot, defend, hit free throws, create his own shot, etc. But Curry for Richardson was the big play. Yeah, okay.

[ejs78]

I would say he's semi soft, but where are the pick n rolls we saw last year that led to easy dunks. I really feel Luka is dribbling too much and we get the guys standing around thing.

Is kp just softer than i thought or is it the gsme plan every night to camp him out on the 3 point line despite a pnr switch with a 6'6 guy on him

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[XTraderXL]

I think the stats are wrong. As far as I can remember Luka missed 2 FTs. One in the 1st and one in the 2nd. I distinctly remember he was 8/10 at some point which somehow became 9/10 on his next trip to the line. That was very weird to me during the game. Anyone else noticed that or am I crazy?

I noticed the same thing. I also saw that one of his steal was taken away, which I found weird as he seemed to be the one stripping the player, but certainly not as much as a missed FT disappearing.

Every site has him at 10/11. Maybe someone stepped in to the lane too fast? No clue what else could happen...

I think stats will be updated. I just checked play-by-play on NBA.com and at 4:12 left in the 3rd, Luka missed one FT which disappeared. He shot 12 FTs, hit 10 but one missed one is gone from the stat sheet but is visible on play-by-play.

[Apz]

Some people need a reality check on this board. Phoenix is a middling team with almost no depth. All I’ve heard for weeks is excuses. It was all, “Wait until we get back to full strength.”

This team is at full strength or very close to it. What is more likely: this team overperformed last season or has come back to Earth this season? I know my answer.

What is truly hilarious is the front office. Houston was trying to unload CP3’s massive salary and the Mavs could have had him. But they honestly thought Giannis was walking through the door. Yeah, CP3 is injury prone but he would be the best playmaker and defender Luka has ever played with. No contest. He can pass, shoot, defend, hit free throws, create his own shot, etc. But Curry for Richardson was the big play. Yeah, okay.

Do realisd there is no such thing as free? 40+m in contracts is a lot and u wonder why they have no depth?

And for the 1000nd time, if u got a chance to get giannis u keep that option open. But I bet if we had spent that cap and giannis not resigned u would have been the loudest about why we didnt save the cap for giannis. Some people just cant be pleased, living in hindsight

[arkuo]

If KP was getting killed on pick and roll switches, imagine if we had both KP and say, Drummond on the floor. Twp slow footed big men. Opponents will just milk that play everytime. I think Maxi is ok at PF next to KP. He moves his feet well. Cant have two slow big men on the floor at the same time. We need to replace DFS and/or THJ for an upgrade though. The wing position is an important one in today's NBA. You need someone there.

[Pinkyring]

Some people need a reality check on this board. Phoenix is a middling team with almost no depth. All I’ve heard for weeks is excuses. It was all, “Wait until we get back to full strength.”

This team is at full strength or very close to it. What is more likely: this team overperformed last season or has come back to Earth this season? I know my answer.

What is truly hilarious is the front office. Houston was trying to unload CP3’s massive salary and the Mavs could have had him. But they honestly thought Giannis was walking through the door. Yeah, CP3 is injury prone but he would be the best playmaker and defender Luka has ever played with. No contest. He can pass, shoot, defend, hit free throws, create his own shot, etc. But Curry for Richardson was the big play. Yeah, okay.

Do realisd there is no such thing as free? 40+m in contracts is a lot and u wonder why they have no depth?

And for the 1000nd time, if u got a chance to get giannis u keep that option open. But I bet if we had spent that cap and giannis not resigned u would have been the loudest about why we didnt save the cap for giannis. Some people just cant be pleased, living in hindsight

Phoenix is not a middling team they have two legit and a solid 3rd we have 1 legit all star and a solid 2nd guy. As for the bs about options open for giannis it's ridiculous u spend the money and upgrade and had giannis wanted to come here im sure mil would have rather a snt and received kp than nothing from another team

[Bluelabel24]

If KP was getting killed on pick and roll switches, imagine if we had both KP and say, Drummond on the floor. Twp slow footed big men. Opponents will just milk that play everytime. I think Maxi is ok at PF next to KP. He moves his feet well. Cant have two slow big men on the floor at the same time. We need to replace DFS and/or THJ for an upgrade though. The wing position is an important one in today's NBA. You need someone there.

same sentiments here.. Ive been really looking hard at DFS and i think thats the position we should upgrade at. Look at what Green or Bey can provide in the meantime while theres no moves/trades yet. DFS is shooting poorly this year and the effort sometimes just isnt enough from him.

[juanc]

At what point are we going to give Luka some "credit" for this s*** of a basketball that the Mavs play? Like one of you wrote here, it's just 1 pass and shoot(if there is a pass), when Luka is in the game. He also can't/won't play offball.
The Mavs are realy trying their best to play like the Harden Rockets. Just awful basketball :S

[HMFFL]

I cannot believe they’ve gone this long without trading for a rebounding big.

That being said, at least they kept it close FWIW

Hassan Whiteside is probably there for the taking.

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[Bob8]

At what point are we going to give Luka some "credit" for this s*** of a basketball that the Mavs play? Like one of you wrote here, it's just 1 pass and shoot(if there is a pass), when Luka is in the game. He also can't/won't play offball.
The Mavs are realy trying their best to play like the Harden Rockets. Just awful basketball :S

I agree he played pretty bad yesterday. But they have lost a game again in first half of the 4th, when he was out. Reason is that Richardson looks much better besides Luka, when opponents attention is on Luka. The same goes with Brunson. Rubio would have been much better to run a team, when Luka is on the bench.

Luka doing nothing off ball looks to me as RC idea. Put Luka out with his defender and play 4/4.

[arkuo]

Luka needs to develop more skill if he were to play like James Harden. Harden can score 60 pts and doesn't shoot 27% from step back threes. He will probably get there in due time. Just not this year. Maybe when Lebron retires.

[XTraderXL]

Some people need a reality check on this board. Phoenix is a middling team with almost no depth. All I’ve heard for weeks is excuses. It was all, “Wait until we get back to full strength.”

This team is at full strength or very close to it. What is more likely: this team overperformed last season or has come back to Earth this season? I know my answer.

What is truly hilarious is the front office. Houston was trying to unload CP3’s massive salary and the Mavs could have had him. But they honestly thought Giannis was walking through the door. Yeah, CP3 is injury prone but he would be the best playmaker and defender Luka has ever played with. No contest. He can pass, shoot, defend, hit free throws, create his own shot, etc. But Curry for Richardson was the big play. Yeah, okay.

Do realisd there is no such thing as free? 40+m in contracts is a lot and u wonder why they have no depth?

And for the 1000nd time, if u got a chance to get giannis u keep that option open. But I bet if we had spent that cap and giannis not resigned u would have been the loudest about why we didnt save the cap for giannis. Some people just cant be pleased, living in hindsight

The problem is they had 0 chance for Giannis. Everyone knew it but Cuban. Half of the league would be in the Giannis trade/FA and he would have never gone to Dallas, no way. They messed up, like they usually do.

[reamily]

To be fair, rc's insistence of no post ups is like not milking luka and kps main advantages and may cause his downfall..

[Archx]

At what point are we going to give Luka some "credit" for this s*** of a basketball that the Mavs play? Like one of you wrote here, it's just 1 pass and shoot(if there is a pass), when Luka is in the game. He also can't/won't play offball.
The Mavs are realy trying their best to play like the Harden Rockets. Just awful basketball :S

I agree he played pretty bad yesterday. But they have lost a game again in first half of the 4th, when he was out. Reason is that Richardson looks much better besides Luka, when opponents attention is on Luka. The same goes with Brunson. Rubio would have been much better to run a team, when Luka is on the bench.

Luka doing nothing off ball looks to me as RC idea. Put Luka out with his defender and play 4/4.

He was pretty mediocre on offense, looked incredibly uninterested in the 1st half. But he did play great defense, held Bridges to 38% and also Jae to 11 TS%. But is everyone forgetting how this game could have finished differently if DFS just made that open 3 at the end? Luka drove to the rim and found him when defense collapsed but DFS just missed. The unfortunate chain of events that followed then on the other side were quite brutal.

This whole team just simply needs to start making shots, they were 31% from 3 and 43% from the field. That's way below other teams and in close games like these, if they only shot their own season averages they would have won.

[Bob8]

At what point are we going to give Luka some "credit" for this s*** of a basketball that the Mavs play? Like one of you wrote here, it's just 1 pass and shoot(if there is a pass), when Luka is in the game. He also can't/won't play offball.
The Mavs are realy trying their best to play like the Harden Rockets. Just awful basketball :S

I agree he played pretty bad yesterday. But they have lost a game again in first half of the 4th, when he was out. Reason is that Richardson looks much better besides Luka, when opponents attention is on Luka. The same goes with Brunson. Rubio would have been much better to run a team, when Luka is on the bench.

Luka doing nothing off ball looks to me as RC idea. Put Luka out with his defender and play 4/4.

He was pretty mediocre on offense, looked incredibly uninterested in the 1st half. But he did play great defense, held Bridges to 38% and also Jae to 11 TS%. But is everyone forgetting how this game could have finished differently if DFS just made that open 3 at the end? Luka drove to the rim and found him when defense collapsed but DFS just missed. The unfortunate chain of events that followed then on the other side were quite brutal.

This whole team just simply needs to start making shots, they were 31% from 3 and 43% from the field. That's way below other teams and in close games like these, if they only shot their own season averages they would have won.

I believe every opponent would have been very happy to let DFS take that shot.

[Heezzi]

If KP was getting killed on pick and roll switches, imagine if we had both KP and say, Drummond on the floor. Twp slow footed big men. Opponents will just milk that play everytime. I think Maxi is ok at PF next to KP. He moves his feet well. Cant have two slow big men on the floor at the same time. We need to replace DFS and/or THJ for an upgrade though. The wing position is an important one in today's NBA. You need someone there.

same sentiments here.. Ive been really looking hard at DFS and i think thats the position we should upgrade at. Look at what Green or Bey can provide in the meantime while theres no moves/trades yet. DFS is shooting poorly this year and the effort sometimes just isnt enough from him.

Green isn't going to replace DFS. The should've drafted Saddiq Bey.