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Post#1 » by Some smartguy » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 pm

He's played better lately, but his inefficiency and lack of health drive me crazy. Any trade ideas, any at all, fire away.
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Post#2 » by SG Lover » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:25 pm

Porzingis+Powell+2-3 firsts for Bam+Iguodala+Olynyk
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Post#3 » by jpengland » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:29 pm

You don't sell low on KP.

Oh and Miami aren't trading Bam.
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Post#4 » by SG Lover » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:30 pm

Agreed, just a hypothetical
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Post#5 » by dirkforpres » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:58 pm

Lavine and Carter (or Lauri) for Porzingis and Green would be perfect
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Post#6 » by Mavrelous » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:04 am

There are maybe 3 players in this league Miami may entertain the idea of trading BAM for, one of them is on the Mavs, but it sure ain't Zinger :)
Gallinari and Collins for Zinger and 1st(s)
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Post#7 » by HMFFL » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:37 am

SG Lover wrote:Porzingis+Powell+2-3 firsts for Bam+Iguodala+Olynyk
Miami won't be moving Bam! It makes no sense for them to do so.

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Post#8 » by JD45 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:41 am

KP's efficiency is almost exactly like last year and better than it was in NY before his ACL.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3102531/kristaps-porzingis

He is not playing at his bubble level, but he didn't play at that level for most of last year either.
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Post#9 » by HMFFL » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:38 am

JD45 wrote:KP's efficiency is almost exactly like last year and better than it was in NY before his ACL.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3102531/kristaps-porzingis

He is not playing at his bubble level, but he didn't play at that level for most of last year either.
The blame has to be placed on someone when a team lacks talent and isn't doing so well. KP and RC have been the main two that people blame.

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Post#10 » by guille_4 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:07 am

I hate those long 3s from the top, his lack of a post game and inability to take advantage of small players from 10-15 ft. It's a joke.

Besides his box score numbers, he's been pretty bad tbh, his on/off is -9.1 at the moment. He'll improve.
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Post#11 » by taikibansei » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:39 am

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JD45 wrote:KP's efficiency is almost exactly like last year and better than it was in NY before his ACL.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3102531/kristaps-porzingis

He is not playing at his bubble level, but he didn't play at that level for most of last year either.


The blame has to be placed on someone when a team lacks talent and isn't doing so well. KP and RC have been the main two that people blame.

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KP is obviously still rounding back into shape, and the team is still getting used to having him back. That said, KP has been averaging 23.4/8.6/2.7/1.6 (49.6/44.9/87.0 shooting splits, .616TS%) in February in just 29 minutes. Mavs have gone 5-2 during this time. Accordingly, the timing of this thread really seems...odd.
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Post#12 » by User_friendly » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:06 pm

Some smartguy wrote:He's played better lately, but his inefficiency and lack of health drive me crazy. Any trade ideas, any at all, fire away.

I think there's a lot of impatience in this forum, and in NBA in general, especially in the case of Porzingis.
He's just in the ascending line, after a long nightmare. He's not supposed to reach his level so soon.
Wait a couple of months, and see for which players you would replace him THEN.
(I bet the package you might get as of now, could later look like this :banghead:)
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Post#13 » by User_friendly » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:22 pm

taikibansei wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
JD45 wrote:KP's efficiency is almost exactly like last year and better than it was in NY before his ACL.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3102531/kristaps-porzingis

He is not playing at his bubble level, but he didn't play at that level for most of last year either.


The blame has to be placed on someone when a team lacks talent and isn't doing so well. KP and RC have been the main two that people blame.

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KP is obviously still rounding back into shape, and the team is still getting used to having him back. That said, KP has been averaging 23.4/8.6/2.7/1.6 (49.6/44.9/87.0 shooting splits, .616TS%) in February in just 29 minutes. Mavs have gone 5-2 during this time. Accordingly, the timing of this thread really seems...odd.


This.
I have to admit he makes me crazy sometimes with his shot selection. He seems to choose shooting when there's noone to rebound.
Also, I think his role in Mavs 3p shooting strategy deserves its own thread.
Normally you don't need a 7.3" to shoot those long 3s. Ok, he's quite good at that, and he can do it without opposition, but I think he's being a little misused. I have the feeling that, with the mobility he has for his size, he could keep the long distance shooting threat, while at the same time creating havoc in the rest of the court, especially with Luka playmaking.
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Post#14 » by taikibansei » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:34 pm

User_friendly wrote:
taikibansei wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
The blame has to be placed on someone when a team lacks talent and isn't doing so well. KP and RC have been the main two that people blame.

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KP is obviously still rounding back into shape, and the team is still getting used to having him back. That said, KP has been averaging 23.4/8.6/2.7/1.6 (49.6/44.9/87.0 shooting splits, .616TS%) in February in just 29 minutes. Mavs have gone 5-2 during this time. Accordingly, the timing of this thread really seems...odd.


This.
I have to admit he makes me crazy sometimes with his shot selection. He seems to choose shooting when there's noone to rebound.
Also, I think his role in Mavs 3p shooting strategy deserves a whole thread.
Normally you don't need a 7.3" to shoot those long 3s. Ok, he's quite good at that, and he can do it without opposition, but I think he's being a little misused. I have the feeling that, with the mobility he has for his size, he could keep the long distance shooting threat, while at the same time creating havoc in the rest of the court, especially with Luka playmaking.


KP's roles on offense and defense still seem a little off, and communication (particularly on defense) is not quite there yet either. The trust and familiarity which come with shared experiences playing together for years (or at least consecutive months) on the same court has yet to develop. This said, and just like last year, individual and team play are improving exponentially in the second month together, and I expect this to continue...barring further injuries, of course. (Indeed, while the shot selection can be frustrating at times, the only serious, legit knock on KP that I've seen has been his fragility.)
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Post#15 » by dirkules_41 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:58 pm

No package would currently be interesting that anyone would seriously offer. He's a superstar that's looking to get back to his previous level of play and isn't far off now. I certainly wouldn't entertain some of the ideas above. It would have to be a straight swap for someone like Beal, Bam, etc. to consider it.

With that being said as frustrating and inconsistent as he can be I firmly believe he will find his footing on defense again and manage to play at his bubble form again, so trading him now would be beyond dumb - also clearly not something Cuban would entertain.
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Post#16 » by fuller4379 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:25 pm

Not without a top 20 guy in return.
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Post#17 » by HMFFL » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:11 am

taikibansei wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
JD45 wrote:KP's efficiency is almost exactly like last year and better than it was in NY before his ACL.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/advancedstats/_/id/3102531/kristaps-porzingis

He is not playing at his bubble level, but he didn't play at that level for most of last year either.


The blame has to be placed on someone when a team lacks talent and isn't doing so well. KP and RC have been the main two that people blame.

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KP is obviously still rounding back into shape, and the team is still getting used to having him back. That said, KP has been averaging 23.4/8.6/2.7/1.6 (49.6/44.9/87.0 shooting splits, .616TS%) in February in just 29 minutes. Mavs have gone 5-2 during this time. Accordingly, the timing of this thread really seems...odd.
I do agree completely.
KP needed time to get back in a groove, I gave him that time before jumping to conclusions, but others haven't.

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Post#18 » by GTR11 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:01 am

You guys need to start conversation about Luka being Bird 2.0. Guy is a monster.

What's wrong with KP though. That is not KP we know here in NY.
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Post#19 » by arkuo » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:16 am

KP looks bad right now. It reminds me of Steve Nash's early years in Dallas. If I remember correctly Steve got booed then too.
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Post#20 » by Muha_i_samolet » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:56 am

He's probably the most negative player with that contract, we don't have enough assets to dump him.

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