DrPampiloni wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:@deb
Probably you're right and i overvalue Melli because i see him play a lot of time, but i can assicure you that in Europe he had a lot of respect when he played for Milano.
Don't look too much at the stats, in Europe is very hard to make monster stats.
Kyle Hines is a EL legend and he averaged 8points and 4 rebound in his Championship seasons...Luka is Luka and he averaged 16+5+4 in his MVP season.
I see that deb already succeeded in bringing you to a more reasonable position. I will simply recap by saying:
1) It's pointless to use the time of Melli at Fenerbahce as an argument here. Maxi is one year younger and cracked the rotation as an NBA player already as a rookie in the 2017-18 season, while Nico stayed in Europe and went to a Euroleague contender. Before that season as Bob8 clarified, they did put out similar stats in the German BBL (which was my point).
2) I am a European basketball fan, you need not tell me how Euroleague is a different caliber. Be that as it may ACB is arguably the 2nd best league in Europe and Maxi had a very strong season in Spain as 23 year old https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/maxi-kleber-1.html. If Maxi had stayed in Europe he would have been for sure a highly coveted Euroleague player, his only issue were always injuries. I have nothing but love for Nico (I am Italian and proud of his achievements) but I think that we should not expect too much out of him.
EDIT: I mixed up Bob8 with deb originally. My mistake: apologies to both
We agree it's very unlikely that Melli can do much in Nba now. It's probably too late for him. But watching him playing it's obvious Melli is better offensive player than Kleber. Kleber's more or less only skill is shooting open 3s. And even in that segment Melli was much better in his last 4 years in Europe.
Kleber is a player, who fits in Nba more than in Euroleague, Melli on the other hand is perfect Pf for Europe, but is probably not good enough offensive player to make up for his lack of defensive skills in Nba. I don't believe Melli can be as good as Kleber in Nba, but similarly I don't believe Kleber could have been as good as Melli in Euroleague.
The most impressive thing about Melli is, how quick he fit in Mavs roster.