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Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:02 pm
by Bluelabel24
didnt know that his contract in TOR is about to end.. some mavs fans have called for a different GM or team pres but the hard part is finding a suitable replacement. imo great GMs are harder to find than HCs
Masai definitely is among the top in the field.

"It is widely presumed in league circles that only an overwhelming offer in a highly desirable market could lure him away from the influence and affection he has amassed in Toronto," Stein reported Tuesday

what do you guys think of him? should Cuban be that "overwhelming offer" during the summer?
i think its a long shot but still wouldn't hurt to try and offer...

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:36 pm
by Mavrelous
Absolutely he should, but I doubt Cuban would want strong personality like Ujiri next to him in Dallas, Cuban is by far the most involved owner in his team.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:46 pm
by dirkforpres
Don’t hold your breath.

Despite how logical it is and how much I’d love for it to happen, I never assume Cuban will actually do what’s right for the team by firing Carlisle and/or Nelson.

Ujiri would be perfect and could easily build a championship roster around Luka... but Mark Cuban just wants to keep “his guys” around now that he’s already gotten a ring and doesn’t care as much anymore. I honestly believe that even if we went the rest of the year without winning another game, Cuban would still keep them around

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:38 pm
by Bnice5
why would Cubes do that... don't you know the Mavs have the smartest GM and smartest HC in all of sports?

As Donnie says,"just trust us"

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:36 pm
by arkuo
Here's the scenario. Masai signs with Dallas, sends Cuban an offseason proposal to build a team around Luka and KP. Cuban vetoes that, signs Dwight Powell to 3 years $17M per.

I'd imagine Masai would quit on his first day here. Not to mention all the sexual harrasment shenanigans from the front office.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:57 pm
by Bluelabel24
another thread a posted a few months too early hahaha
really praying for this one.. i have limited knowledge about potential donnie replacements but its hard to top what Ujiri has done.. his resume imo is among the best. i know its along shot though. so the question is if not uriji,, who??
Ainge,Finley?

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:09 am
by JD45
Masai is the big free agent prize this Summer.

I don't think it happens though. Cuban is the GM, even if he has someone else hold the title. He is making the decisions with recommendations from his staff. I doubt Masai would like that and he certainly wouldn't put up with gambling guy overruling him.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:41 am
by DJ_3_Ball
JD45 wrote:Masai is the big free agent prize this Summer.

I don't think it happens though. Cuban is the GM, even if he has someone else hold the title. He is making the decisions with recommendations from his staff. I doubt Masai would like that and he certainly wouldn't put up with gambling guy overruling him.


Donnie sends a hit piece on Voulgaris to the Athletic, and everyone just says "F the poker guy"

That's so dismissive. Why would anyone just rubber stamp the story of someone with an axe to grind?

For all I know, Voulgaris is a horse's ass, and Luka hates him, and he needs to go. And by the way, there's been rumors that Haralabos & Luka have butted heads around the NBA, so if that's the case, then adios Voulgaris.

But, I'm not going to just co-sign an article of conjecture by the Athletic and say "F the poker guy". Haralabos is very intelligent & he's one of the foremost voices in NBA analytics. If the Mavs do let him go, he won't be out of work long, and whatever team picks him up. You mark my words that team will be a contender in 5 years.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:48 am
by JD45
DJ_3_Ball wrote:
JD45 wrote:Masai is the big free agent prize this Summer.

I don't think it happens though. Cuban is the GM, even if he has someone else hold the title. He is making the decisions with recommendations from his staff. I doubt Masai would like that and he certainly wouldn't put up with gambling guy overruling him.


Donnie sends a hit piece on Voulgaris to the Athletic, and everyone just says "F the poker guy"

That's so dismissive. Why would anyone just rubber stamp the story of someone with an axe to grind?

For all I know, Voulgaris is a horse's ass, and Luka hates him, and he needs to go. And by the way, there's been rumors that Haralabos & Luka have butted heads around the NBA, so if that's the case, then adios Voulgaris.

But, I'm not going to just co-sign an article of conjecture by the Athletic and say "F the poker guy". Haralabos is very intelligent & he's one of the foremost voices in NBA analytics. If the Mavs do let him go, he won't be out of work long, and whatever team picks him up. You mark my words that team will be a contender in 5 years.


Gambling guy can be the most charming, intelligent, foremost voices in NBA analytics. And the athletic article can be a complete distorted hit job. A top GM is not coming into a job with someone else giving advice to the owner. Gambling guy needs to be GM, work for the GM or be gone.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:11 am
by DJ_3_Ball
JD totally agree. Voulgaris has to work within the confines of an organization and play his role; otherwise it doesn't work at all.

I just think it's crazy how everyone is taking the Athletic piece at face value when it's very clearly a hit piece authored by Donnie Nelson who clearly hates Voulgaris and is very biased towards him.

ARe: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:55 am
by arkuo
I like Masai for Dallas for the fact that he has a strong personality that can whip Luka. Masai sent Derozan away because it was his job to make the team better and not be friends with players. You cant spoil Luka too much IMO. You can't build a team with a babysitter as a GM. Pat Riley was able to tell Lebron to work within a system or he's out. A strong character GM can handle big chaaracter stars.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:26 am
by Mr B
Masai Ujiri is obviously the the top guy on the market. He and Jamahl Mosley would be ideal in opinion.


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Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:20 am
by Mavrelous
If Mosley is the pick, I'd try also to bring back Silas as lead assistant.

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Re: ARe: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:01 pm
by jereseja
arkuo wrote:I like Masai for Dallas for the fact that he has a strong personality that can whip Luka. Masai sent Derozan away because it was his job to make the team better and not be friends with players. You cant spoil Luka too much IMO. You can't build a team with a babysitter as a GM. Pat Riley was able to tell Lebron to work within a system or he's out. A strong character GM can handle big chaaracter stars.

And how it worked for Riley?
He pay fine this year for talking too much and James is in LA.

Re: ARe: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:09 pm
by arkuo
jereseja wrote:
arkuo wrote:I like Masai for Dallas for the fact that he has a strong personality that can whip Luka. Masai sent Derozan away because it was his job to make the team better and not be friends with players. You cant spoil Luka too much IMO. You can't build a team with a babysitter as a GM. Pat Riley was able to tell Lebron to work within a system or he's out. A strong character GM can handle big chaaracter stars.

And how it worked for Riley?
He pay fine this year for talking too much and James is in LA.



You missed the point. Riley OWNS South Beach.

If you get a wimp as a GM that babysits his stars, you become Cleveland that Lebron and Rich Paul can ask you whoever to sign. Tristan Thompson, KCP, Montrez Harrell. All those names were forced by Rich Paul down their throats. Miami didnt sign a single overpaid Rich Paul client. Lebron realized he couldn't run South Beach so he left. The GM has to put team first before babysitting your star to their every whim. Jerry Krause wasn't friends with MJ and Pippen, and we know how that worked out.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:04 pm
by BlueSan
No chance he comes. Move along...

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:12 pm
by fuller4379
This would require Cuban giving up power. It would be great, but I don’t think Cuban’s ego will allow for him to switch to an owner who just signs the checks.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:42 pm
by JJP
fuller4379 wrote:This would require Cuban giving up power. It would be great, but I don’t think Cuban’s ego will allow for him to switch to an owner who just signs the checks.


While I understand this thinking, this has always struck me as bit too simple for this particular situation. I'm sure Cuban would have no problem signing Ujiri if he could. Cuban is in the process of damage control. Ujiri automatically puts credibility back into the franchise - and Cuban generally has been conscious of the Mavericks franchise and how it's perceived.

I'm sure Mark Cuban would prefer a winner. It fixes his own black eye as well as help the organization as a whole.

Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:27 am
by Mr B
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Re: Masai Ujiri??

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:04 am
by boogiezen
Why would Masai leave Toronto? Cuban is a mess. And Bob is still there.

Besides I doubt Cuban will even try to talk to him. His ego will not allow it.