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RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST)

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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#61 » by BlueSan » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:36 am

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BlueSan wrote:Poor game management and decision-making by Luka.

If Lakers had played better it would be over by some time ago...Luka gave them plenty of chances


He was tired as f*ck and THJ+Jrich were useless in the 4th. Brunson was on the bench for some reason.


He was, also dealing with ankle problems himself and yes his supporting cast sucks. Still he managed the 4th poorly
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#62 » by dirkforpres » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:41 am

Read on Twitter


Sounds like the Mavs may have gotten extremely lucky here
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#63 » by ejs78 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:44 am

Thanks Doctor Sky Falling
dirkforpres wrote:
Read on Twitter


Sounds like the Mavs may have gotten extremely lucky here


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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#64 » by Bnice5 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 am

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BlueSan wrote:Poor game management and decision-making by Luka.

If Lakers had played better it would be over by some time ago...Luka gave them plenty of chances


He was tired as f*ck and THJ+Jrich were useless in the 4th. Brunson was on the bench for some reason.

I’ve noticed Brunson seems to struggle against teams that are very long at the guard position. It seems to really hamper his play style
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#65 » by KhalilS » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:10 am

WCS has weirdest stat line, many times you watch him and wonder how the **** he is still in NBA, then check the boxscore and he has the highest +/- in the game.
One more win Mavs, please, one more against these cocky bastards, let bitch ass short center have a play in scare.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#66 » by Bluelabel24 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:40 am

KP could be out weeks again.. we shouldve signed someone even on those 10day contracts like what other teams are doing.
Also ffs can someone here with a MD or any background regarding physical training share some insight as to how mavs can make KP a little more durable?? some fans go" why add muscle and weight hes already injury prone".. and others are" he needs to gain some muscle for impact protection"
i have little background on this field and think both arguments have merit.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#67 » by BlueSan » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:40 am

fuller4379 wrote:This was a game we would have found a way to lose last season.


Well to be perfectly honest, they had a fair share of those although in a bit different context. But games they should have won but didnt if for nothing else, because of the status of their opponent.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#68 » by BlueSan » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:44 am

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Archx wrote:
BlueSan wrote:Poor game management and decision-making by Luka.

If Lakers had played better it would be over by some time ago...Luka gave them plenty of chances


He was tired as f*ck and THJ+Jrich were useless in the 4th. Brunson was on the bench for some reason.

I’ve noticed Brunson seems to struggle against teams that are very long at the guard position. It seems to really hamper his play style


I mean maybe, but in the 4th he was missing the wide-open catch and shoot 3 pts and 2pt jumpers. So he was just in general struggle, is struggling and is unfortunately out of form/groove. Also missed one important FT at the end, together with THJ

He was playing so well a few months ago and now he crawled back into a fetus position almost, really don't get it at all, or in other words, that's the main difference between good NBA players and ok ones.
Ok, ones will give you these bursts, while good ones will consistently provide.
All same with all-stars and superstars.
All-stars will play well most of the time and will have these bursts of absolutely massive moments and games, but Superstars will day in and night out carry a team and on a bad night will have an OK game.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#69 » by BlueSan » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:07 am

Bluelabel24 wrote:KP could be out weeks again.. we shouldve signed someone even on those 10day contracts like what other teams are doing.
Also ffs can someone here with a MD or any background regarding physical training share some insight as to how mavs can make KP a little more durable?? some fans go" why add muscle and weight hes already injury prone".. and others are" he needs to gain some muscle for impact protection"
i have little background on this field and think both arguments have merit.


No, listen. At such height adding muscles can be a dangerous process all and all, cause even if you add them in the areas to strengthen the ligaments, you are adding additional pressures to the joins and tissue which sole worry isn't just about stretching too much, but is suffering from other effects.
With KP and his long body, 3 main things happen

1. Because of a long body, the LEVERAGE is incredibly LONG. Long LEVERAGE = a lot of force even at smaller mass.
2. Because of his body structure his CENTER of GRAVITY is messed up. The taller the person, the higher the CENTER of GRAVITY, and the higher the center of gravity the BIGGER the compensation of the entire body.
When a body needs to carry an uneven load, it will start to compensate for it by bending, extending its limbs, to get the gravity back over the feet thus putting pressure on the joints, ligaments, your back, and so on...
With a taller person, it happens because the center of gravity will often GO OUT of the center position (as the center of gravity isn't as low as for a smaller person.
3. Problems with REGULAR NORMAL ACTIVITY and CORRECT AGRONOMICAL POSTURE
I'll explain. Things like taking a proper defensive stance with your back straight, your knees out, legs bent and using your toes...
Have you ever seen Porzingis do it properly? No because it is inefficient and problematic for him to do at that height -> resulting in a WRONG POSTURE and his back is suffering every time Porzingis is playing any kind of "half-serious defense" Smaller players have it easier here


Hopefully, that helps and sheds new light on all of this. When I was training the Kinetics experts would tell us about these things and try to prepare us for things we would be facing when using our body. I would imagine in NBA they have it similarly. I would expect Porzingis to understand those things, but nothing you can really do about them except playing less hard and more careful which competitively is never a good idea.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#70 » by KhalilS » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:14 am

Good analysis man, matches what we see on court.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#71 » by Bluelabel24 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:25 am

BlueSan wrote:
Bluelabel24 wrote:KP could be out weeks again.. we shouldve signed someone even on those 10day contracts like what other teams are doing.
Also ffs can someone here with a MD or any background regarding physical training share some insight as to how mavs can make KP a little more durable?? some fans go" why add muscle and weight hes already injury prone".. and others are" he needs to gain some muscle for impact protection"
i have little background on this field and think both arguments have merit.


No, listen. At such height adding muscles can be a dangerous process all and all, cause even if you add them in the areas to strengthen the ligaments, you are adding additional pressures to the joins and tissue which sole worry isn't just about stretching too much, but is suffering from other effects.
With KP and his long body, 3 main things happen

1. Because of a long body, the LEVERAGE is incredibly LONG. Long LEVERAGE = a lot of force even at smaller mass.
2. Because of his body structure his CENTER of GRAVITY is messed up. The taller the person, the higher the CENTER of GRAVITY, and the higher the center of gravity the BIGGER the compensation of the entire body.
When a body needs to carry an uneven load, it will start to compensate for it by bending, extending its limbs, to get the gravity back over the feet thus putting pressure on the joints, ligaments, your back, and so on...
With a taller person, it happens because the center of gravity will often GO OUT of the center position (as the center of gravity isn't as low as for a smaller person.
3. Problems with REGULAR NORMAL ACTIVITY and CORRECT AGRONOMICAL POSTURE
I'll explain. Things like taking a proper defensive stance with your back straight, your knees out, legs bent and using your toes...
Have you ever seen Porzingis do it properly? No because it is inefficient and problematic for him to do at that height -> resulting in a WRONG POSTURE and his back is suffering every time Porzingis is playing any kind of "half-serious defense" Smaller players have it easier here


Hopefully, that helps and sheds new light on all of this. When I was training the Kinetics experts would tell us about these things and try to prepare us for things we would be facing when using our body. I would imagine in NBA they have it similarly. I would expect Porzingis to understand those things, but nothing you can really do about them except playing less hard and more careful which competitively is never a good idea.

what about the knee valgus and his overall landing mechanics?? dont you think thats the cause of weakening crucial ligaments in the knees? i tried watching videos to educate myself and have seen 2 helpful ones.. i already posted these a while back but ill share anyway..

focus on knees. compare his inward motion to dirks stable motion.. and thats not only on shooting. It can be from rebounding, blocking, altering passing lanes..
Joel Embiid had the same issues because he started quite late in basketball i think he started when he was 14-15.


sad part is he already plays so soft and careful out there.. does he have to play even softer and more careful to be available in games? im getting tired of this routine with KP, he gets injured, needs a few months to get his rhythm back plays great a few games then repeat.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#72 » by Bluelabel24 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:43 am

also heres the trainer thats strongly suggesting kp add muscle.. his name is Dr Carlon Colker btw google the guy to know the names of other nba stars he has trained with..
;list=RDCMUCeIAmhfJRLz83GHzf1T-ORQ&index=2

this was after KPs major injury.. the timestamp is 16:46. lol i actually had to watch it again to share the timestamp..
in other vids he shares his opinion and explains why its important.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#73 » by Archx » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:03 am

KhalilS wrote:WCS has weirdest stat line, many times you watch him and wonder how the **** he is still in NBA, then check the boxscore and he has the highest +/- in the game.
One more win Mavs, please, one more against these cocky bastards, let bitch ass short center have a play in scare.


Hehe, WCS and Luka had the highest DRTG on the team, WCS also got the belt after the game. So, he did play good.

But it's funny how players who Mavs fans around here don't like, always end up lighting up this team. Drummond had 19 rebounds on 59.5%TS and 3 blocks. He also had game highest DRTG. And before anyone says spacing again, Powell&WCS don't provide much spacing either, they are defending them from the FT line. But Drummond sets strong screens and is a lot stronger than those two...
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#74 » by KhalilS » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:09 am

Drummond is an elite rebounders, but everything else is below average, I wanted him since he could be had for JJ, but don't think it's that big of a deal.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#75 » by Dirk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:04 am

Hard to believe some of the bad games of late, considering how great they played through most of this game. Particularly in the first half after a poor start.

WCS has had some good games this season and he was really great in this one. I have been very impressed with his energy pretty much all season.

DFS continues with his hot streak... and this time he managed to hit a dagger

And the facial


It was just an all around committed performance by everyone. Great cameo appearance by Reddick. No look pass... fake and layup... and a three...

These guys hate each other

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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#76 » by Archx » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:59 am

Dirk wrote:Hard to believe some of the bad games of late, considering how great they played through most of this game. Particularly in the first half after a poor start.


Can Mavs play Lakers for 82 games please? :D It's crazy how good can they perform against top teams and yet drop the ball against lower tier opponents. If they played the same most of the time, they would be fighting for the 3rd spot and not only 6th.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#77 » by SOUNDCHASER » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:25 pm

we need to turn it on and get to 5th seed then we can do some damage. If KP stays healthy this team can be a contender.

There is no real home court advantage in the playoffs and a lot of teams are beat up so this could be a good year to sneak in and win a championship.

We face an easy schedule the rest of the way so we could go on a winning streak and win every game and that should be good enough to win 5th seed.

Denver is on a roll and has a much tougher schedule of games remaining but they will easily hold onto the 4th seed.

LA is playing like crap and losing a lot now so they should fall in the standings and only Portland stands in our way of 5th but they have the tougher schedule so we should end up with the better record and as LA continues to self destruct that 5th seed is ours to snag.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#78 » by Dirk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Archx wrote:
Dirk wrote:Hard to believe some of the bad games of late, considering how great they played through most of this game. Particularly in the first half after a poor start.


Can Mavs play Lakers for 82 games please? :D It's crazy how good can they perform against top teams and yet drop the ball against lower tier opponents. If they played the same most of the time, they would be fighting for the 3rd spot and not only 6th.


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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#79 » by Bob8 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:11 pm

SOUNDCHASER wrote:we need to turn it on and get to 5th seed then we can do some damage. If KP stays healthy this team can be a contender.

There is no real home court advantage in the playoffs and a lot of teams are beat up so this could be a good year to sneak in and win a championship.

We face an easy schedule the rest of the way so we could go on a winning streak and win every game and that should be good enough to win 5th seed.

Denver is on a roll and has a much tougher schedule of games remaining but they will easily hold onto the 4th seed.

LA is playing like crap and losing a lot now so they should fall in the standings and only Portland stands in our way of 5th but they have the tougher schedule so we should end up with the better record and as LA continues to self destruct that 5th seed is ours to snag.


Portland schedule might not be that difficult in the end. Their last 3 supposedly difficult games will be against teams, who won't care much about result and might rest players.
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Re: RS 20/21 - Mavs vs Lakers (9:30PM EST) 

Post#80 » by BlueSan » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:15 pm

You ok budy? Your optimism is a bit through the roof

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