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I think it's Dwight Powell, but I've basically given up on that. After him, I'll go with WCS, even though he has shown some growth from deep. I hope he keeps improving there though. Moses Brown is another obvious choice, but after that I'd go with Ntilikina, especially after a rough 3 point shooting night in the last preseason game. Finally, I'd go with Josh Green because the team needs him to take that next step.

1. Dwight Powell
2. WCS
3. Moses Brown
4. Frank Ntilikina
5. Josh Green

What do you all think?

Josh Green, it's a must have for him, his BCS is 3&D player with good ctting and passing instincts, his shot is too streaky and his court awareness, these should improve with time.
Dwight Powell can become more suitable at the 4 with legit shot, WCS also can be a pop threat rather than only roller and cutter.

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KhalilS wrote:Josh Green, it's a must have for him, his BCS is 3&D player with good ctting and passing instincts, his shot is too streaky and his court awareness, these should improve with time.
Dwight Powell can become more suitable at the 4 with legit shot, WCS also can be a pop threat rather than only roller and cutter.

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Josh Green is a good pick. Same with Ntilikina. I think Josh's 3 point numbers will go up this year.
I've given up on Powell
WCS may shoot them a little more
Moses Brown...sure, I'll take it, but his game is going to be all about rebounding, his size/length, and playing in the paint.

So I'll go with Green with Frankie at #2.

I think this is an easy answer: Luka Doncic

Luka is a career 33.1% 3PM shooter. Last year he was at 35.0% which isn't elite. It's merely at the point you don't feel bad about a shooter taking 3s. If he shot 34.9%, for example, that 34 looks a lot less attractive than 35 does. And let's not get into Luka's FTs. Clearly, Luka has work to do on his shooting.

I think at some point we'll see Luka as a 38% 3PM shooter and over 85% from the line, and those will be scary times for the rest of the NBA.

To answer your question, more directly, it's Josh Green, then Ntilikina and it'd also be nice to see Eugene Omoruyi develop into an above average 3pt shooter

Definitely Josh Green to me. An athletic wing that can defend, handle the ball decently AND hit 3s at a high rate are extremely coveted around the league. If he doesn't a decent 3 point shot, he'll likely not have much of a career post Mavs. If he does though, his career trajectory changes dramatically.

I like the Luka answer considering that Luka getting to .400 is more important than any other player on the team... By far.

If not, obviously Green, as it makes him a rotation player on a contender IMO.

Powell and WCS, who cares. They either won't be on the team in 2 years or will have a reduced role.

Just looked this up. Josh Green shot 36.1% 3PM his one year at Arizona. Yes, he shot 16% last season, but he only attempted 25 3PA, because he only saw 445 minutes all season last year. Carlisle always hated rookies AND was terrible for their development. 25 3pt attempts is such a small number that if he makes 5 of those shots, his percentage jumps 20 points.

Seeing Green's athleticism in the preseason and knowing Kidd will do a better job of getting Green some minutes, gives me another reason to be optimistic about this upcoming season. Green at least has the potential to be the 3rd best player on this team. It could become clear he's an NBA starter level player by the end of the season.

Luka

When we're talking about Luka's 3pts %, we should look at type of his shots. Curry has 60% of his shots assisted, Luka had only 23% of his 3s assistsed last year. If Luka doesn't change his style of play and play more off ball, his % might go up but not a lot. His ceiling in this case is somewhere around Harden's %.

Green needs 3 point the most, it's not only about %, he's not willing 3 point shooter and not only because Rick. And when we're talking about his bad %, he was similarly bad in G-league too. Path from total non shooter to solid shooter is normally a long one.

DJ_3_Ball wrote:I think this is an easy answer: Luka Doncic

Luka is a career 33.1% 3PM shooter. Last year he was at 35.0% which isn't elite. It's merely at the point you don't feel bad about a shooter taking 3s. If he shot 34.9%, for example, that 34 looks a lot less attractive than 35 does. And let's not get into Luka's FTs. Clearly, Luka has work to do on his shooting.

I think at some point we'll see Luka as a 38% 3PM shooter and over 85% from the line, and those will be scary times for the rest of the NBA.

He came into the season out of shape last year and sucked from 3 point land. If you ignore the first 20 games, he shot 37% from 3 with 8.8 attempts per game. That is not really bad compared to others that shoot around the same amount. Of course, he will just get better at it.


Josh Green needs to develop it, but I think Frank Ntilikina could be huge for us if he became a good 3 point shooter. Even to the point where you could bench Hardaway and Brunson. So we would have extremely good bench and a very good defensive starting lineup.

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:He (Luka) came into the season out of shape last year and sucked from 3 point land. If you ignore the first 20 games, he shot 37% from 3 with 8.8 attempts per game. That is not really bad compared to others that shoot around the same amount. Of course, he will just get better at it.

Fair enough. How many other players in the NBA who shoot 37% from 3 can you name who also shoot under 77% from the charity stripe?

My point is Luka needs to improve his shooting, and considering what you highlighted his 8.8 3PA per game, he's the one who's going to be taking the most 3s on the game, so if his shooting %s improve, that'll help the team the most. He's definitely taking the most FTs per game. Luka could add an extra 1.5 points per game to the Mavs offense just by improving his shooting. That would be huge.

Honestly i don't care about Powell, WCS and other bigs 3 point shooting, they have to take rebound and play defense. Nothing else, plus hope they will not be here next season.

Luka shoots bad for 3 because the step back, it's normal...he is not Curry, he can improve but the difficult of his shoots is very high.

41Dirk41 wrote:Honestly i don't care about Powell, WCS and other bigs 3 point shooting, they have to take rebound and play defense. Nothing else, plus hope they will not be here next season.

Luka shoots bad for 3 because the step back, it's normal...he is not Curry, he can improve but the difficult of his shoots is very high.

I think Luka over does the step back. By now most defenders know it's coming, and he's not particularly efficient at it. I mean, he's efficient at it, but it's not the most efficient shot. I bet when Jason Kidd said he wants Luka to get his teammates involved more, he's talking about less 25 foot step back 3pt bombs and more penetrating the defense and finding a better shot for a teammate.

DJ_3_Ball wrote:

41Dirk41 wrote:Honestly i don't care about Powell, WCS and other bigs 3 point shooting, they have to take rebound and play defense. Nothing else, plus hope they will not be here next season.

Luka shoots bad for 3 because the step back, it's normal...he is not Curry, he can improve but the difficult of his shoots is very high.

I think Luka over does the step back. By now most defenders know it's coming, and he's not particularly efficient at it. I mean, he's efficient at it, but it's not the most efficient shot. I bet when Jason Kidd said he wants Luka to get his teammates involved more, he's talking about less 25 foot step back 3pt bombs and more penetrating the defense and finding a better shot for a teammate.

Yes you are right for sure but i think Luka did that because his teammates can't score and create nothing...

Agree with everyone here who says Luka.

Luka having a good 3-pt shot will have a much bigger impact than a role player.
Sometimes when I see Luka shoot 3's and FTs I just cringe at how off he can be.
You guys remember when Dirk used to shoot those trailing 3's at the top of the arc? Those were money. I want to feel that way about Luka shooting 3's.

DJ_3_Ball wrote:

41Dirk41 wrote:Honestly i don't care about Powell, WCS and other bigs 3 point shooting, they have to take rebound and play defense. Nothing else, plus hope they will not be here next season.

Luka shoots bad for 3 because the step back, it's normal...he is not Curry, he can improve but the difficult of his shoots is very high.

I think Luka over does the step back. By now most defenders know it's coming, and he's not particularly efficient at it. I mean, he's efficient at it, but it's not the most efficient shot. I bet when Jason Kidd said he wants Luka to get his teammates involved more, he's talking about less 25 foot step back 3pt bombs and more penetrating the defense and finding a better shot for a teammate.

Luka shot better on stepback 3s than catch and shoot 3s last year. If I remember correctly, he was at 35.7 on stepbacks and around 33% when he took no dribble.

it's a question of getting used to it.

leolozon wrote:Luka shot better on stepback 3s than catch and shoot 3s last year. If I remember correctly, he was at 35.7 on stepbacks and around 33% when he took no dribble.

it's a question of getting used to it.

That's a great stat on the stepbacks, if the 35.7% is correct.

No dribble? Spot up shooting? Someone posted a stat that he only had 23% of his 3pt shots last year assisted. Even less would be spot ups. I'd like to know the sample size on that stat. Because no shooter is better off the dribble than they are spot up for catch & shoot.

It's like Josh Green's 16% on only 25 3PA last year. Sample size is too small to make any definitive conclusions.

DJ_3_Ball wrote:

leolozon wrote:Luka shot better on stepback 3s than catch and shoot 3s last year. If I remember correctly, he was at 35.7 on stepbacks and around 33% when he took no dribble.

it's a question of getting used to it.

That's a great stat on the stepbacks, if the 35.7% is correct.

No dribble? Spot up shooting? Someone posted a stat that he only had 23% of his 3pt shots last year assisted. Even less would be spot ups. I'd like to know the sample size on that stat. Because no shooter is better off the dribble than they are spot up for catch & shoot.

It's like Josh Green's 16% on only 25 3PA last year. Sample size is too small to make any definitive conclusions.

Luka's shooting splits,

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629029/shooting/?dir=1&sort=FGA

Edit: You have to change to 2020/21, Regular season. I don't know why but, when you copy link, it goes automatically to 2022 season.

Josh Green sample size might be small, but on the other hand he's constantly shooting bad, regular season, G-league, preseason, and maybe even more important not enough, because he obviously doesn't trust in his shooting. Being afraid of shooting is the worst thing for young player.

Bob8 wrote:

DJ_3_Ball wrote:

leolozon wrote:Luka shot better on stepback 3s than catch and shoot 3s last year. If I remember correctly, he was at 35.7 on stepbacks and around 33% when he took no dribble.

it's a question of getting used to it.

That's a great stat on the stepbacks, if the 35.7% is correct.

No dribble? Spot up shooting? Someone posted a stat that he only had 23% of his 3pt shots last year assisted. Even less would be spot ups. I'd like to know the sample size on that stat. Because no shooter is better off the dribble than they are spot up for catch & shoot.

It's like Josh Green's 16% on only 25 3PA last year. Sample size is too small to make any definitive conclusions.

Luka's shooting splits,

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629029/shooting/?dir=1&sort=FGA

Edit: You have to change to 2020/21, Regular season. I don't know why but, when you copy link, it goes automatically to 2022 season.

In tracking, they say 34.1% on catch and shoot, but it looks like there's data missing.

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1629029/shots-dash/?Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

Seems Luka can't find the rhythm without dribbles... Sometimes he passes the ball despite he is alone.