If Brunson walks, do you just tank for Wemby, Smith, Lively, Scoot, or the Thompson Twins?

[King Ken]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

[arkuo]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

[Apz]

Mavs wont tank. We talking 5th best team in nba last season. Losing brunson would hurt, but probably less then we think. Hardy is a brunson. Good player that fell to 2nd round and now got something to prove. Will be intresting to see what kind of contract he get. Does contracts need to be done before SL?

[ACMFFL]

Mavs don't have their own 2023 1st.

[Bob8]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

This doesn't look very promising,

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/24/23181616/paying-jalen-brunson-whatever-it-takes-makes-sense-nba-free-agency-dallas-mavericks

[Mavrelous]

No, you try to S&T Sexton or trade for Graham.

[Mavrelous]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

This doesn't look very promising,

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/24/23181616/paying-jalen-brunson-whatever-it-takes-makes-sense-nba-free-agency-dallas-mavericks

Very narrow sighted article, clearly author is expert in CBA, but this isn't be all end all.
Mavs had 2 long term bad contracts in THJ and Bertans, adding 3rd one isn't a good idea.
Brunson is 18-20/yr player, pay 10-20% extra OR add a year, but don't go nuts, there are other players out there.
Not having means to sign FA isn't the onlu factor in the decision.

[41Dirk41]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

Last time i watched the Mavs Luka was the man, Brunson is good but with bad size and no defense.
Obviously it's better having him than not, but if he wants to go there is nothing we can do unless working for a good S&T with the Knicks.

Goran at the vet min could work for 1 season.

[Bob8]

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

This doesn't look very promising,

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/24/23181616/paying-jalen-brunson-whatever-it-takes-makes-sense-nba-free-agency-dallas-mavericks

Very narrow sighted article, clearly author is expert in CBA, but this isn't be all end all.
Mavs had 2 long term bad contracts in THJ and Bertans, adding 3rd one isn't a good idea.
Brunson is 18-20/yr player, pay 10-20% extra OR add a year, but don't go nuts, there are other players out there.
Not having means to sign FA isn't the onlu factor in the decision.

I would normally agree, but then I saw how Warriors are winning and I believe Cuban will need to show a lot of money in next few years.

[Bob8]

Just thinking, if you get Luka + Wemby, you will contend for the next 12 years.

You cant tank with a team with Luka in it.

If Brunson walks Dallas has $43M in cap space in 2023. That's more than enough for a max contract player. No need to tank. Just wait one season.

Last time i watched the Mavs Luka was the man, Brunson is good but with bad size and no defense.
Obviously it's better having him than not, but if he wants to go there is nothing we can do unless working for a good S&T with the Knicks.

Goran at the vet min could work for 1 season.

I believe Goran will get more somewhere else.

[BeiBeau]

Luka, me, my wife, and 2 friends is a 6th seed. No way we tank. Hardaway just plays the 2 and we're just slightly better than we were last season. If JB does resign then we're a big threat in the west.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Our team is way too deep to even worry that much about Brunson. He needs to win and not lose like he would if he left to play in NY. He wants money more than winning then he can do that but we have several who will step it up and take his place and even that new rookie Jaden is looking like he could be a major find when he shows everyone that passed him up that he was the real deal.

We vastly improved the roster at the main area of weakness by adding Wood so that hole is gone and we even found a decent back up in Bingham who is a shot blocking monster.

Dragic will step in and do as well and we have THJ coming back healthy also. That is 3 guys we can use who were not there in the play offs last season Dragic Hardy and THJ Plus THJ was a better RS scoring option than Brunson.

Add in 2 new centers that are both better options than what we went to war with last season and they have 3 point skills and rebound and at least one is 7', can defend at a high level and block shots like crazy.

I am ready to go to war with what we have with or without Brunson if he wants to return to face a team in the WCF he has to do that here and not go play for the perennial losers in NY and be cursed to never win a game in the playoffs.

Not being handicapped with a guy that you pay $25 million to not play defense might be a nice thing.

As is right now we may be the best team in the league as very highly rated contenders.

[Apz]

No, you try to S&T Sexton or trade for Graham.

Hmm, cant take snt, remember? Unless we somehow get low enough on payroll. The good thing with this would be to see if people are good for their words lately and stand by that cavs should pay mavs for getting a tpe out of him. No names named...

[Mavrelous]

No, you try to S&T Sexton or trade for Graham.

Hmm, cant take snt, remember? Unless we somehow get low enough on payroll. The good thing with this would be to see if people are good for their words lately and stand by that cavs should pay mavs for getting a tpe out of him. No names named...

Without Brunson payroll allowa S&T

[Mavrelous]

This doesn't look very promising,

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/24/23181616/paying-jalen-brunson-whatever-it-takes-makes-sense-nba-free-agency-dallas-mavericks

Very narrow sighted article, clearly author is expert in CBA, but this isn't be all end all.
Mavs had 2 long term bad contracts in THJ and Bertans, adding 3rd one isn't a good idea.
Brunson is 18-20/yr player, pay 10-20% extra OR add a year, but don't go nuts, there are other players out there.
Not having means to sign FA isn't the onlu factor in the decision.

I would normally agree, but then I saw how Warriors are winning and I believe Cuban will need to show a lot of money in next few years.

Warriors won after 2 years of missibg the PO.
Wiggins failed them for 2 straight years until he justified his contract.
I'd rather trade for Devonte Graham than pay Brunson 30/yr.

[41Dirk41]

Very narrow sighted article, clearly author is expert in CBA, but this isn't be all end all.
Mavs had 2 long term bad contracts in THJ and Bertans, adding 3rd one isn't a good idea.
Brunson is 18-20/yr player, pay 10-20% extra OR add a year, but don't go nuts, there are other players out there.
Not having means to sign FA isn't the onlu factor in the decision.

I would normally agree, but then I saw how Warriors are winning and I believe Cuban will need to show a lot of money in next few years.

Warriors won after 2 years of missibg the PO.
Wiggins failed them for 2 straight years until he justified his contract.
I'd rather trade for Devonte Graham than pay Brunson 30/yr.

Yes but they had a lot of injuries in those years, otherwise they were a contender for sure.

Wiggins failed like first or second option but in his actually role is a luxury.
Basically a 3&D guy with ballhandling and a lot of talent/athletism. A DFS supercharged.

[Mavrelous]

Wiggins body is built for elite BB player, but he doesn't have 1/10 of DFS heart.

[Bob8]

Very narrow sighted article, clearly author is expert in CBA, but this isn't be all end all.
Mavs had 2 long term bad contracts in THJ and Bertans, adding 3rd one isn't a good idea.
Brunson is 18-20/yr player, pay 10-20% extra OR add a year, but don't go nuts, there are other players out there.
Not having means to sign FA isn't the onlu factor in the decision.

I would normally agree, but then I saw how Warriors are winning and I believe Cuban will need to show a lot of money in next few years.

Warriors won after 2 years of missibg the PO.
Wiggins failed them for 2 straight years until he justified his contract.
I'd rather trade for Devonte Graham than pay Brunson 30/yr.

My point is that they're playing with much bigger budget than others. I can't see how Mavs can add better player than Brunson, if they leave him walk.

[Mavrelous]

I would normally agree, but then I saw how Warriors are winning and I believe Cuban will need to show a lot of money in next few years.

Warriors won after 2 years of missibg the PO.
Wiggins failed them for 2 straight years until he justified his contract.
I'd rather trade for Devonte Graham than pay Brunson 30/yr.

My point is that they're playing with much bigger budget than others. I can't see how Mavs can add better player than Brunson, if they leave him walk.

Lacob sits near Silicon Valley and San Franscisco, he's making profit with this budget, there are maybe 3-4 teams capable of that.
Dallas will think long and hard before using TPMLE after signing Brunson.
I am for paying Brunson 25/yr, but if it starts getting ridiculous pull out.

[SOUNDCHASER]

I see Dinwiddie and Dragic as options that are ultimately adequate to backing up Luka. So if Brunson wants to leave that is ok with me since I do not want to pay so much money to another PG. He is not useful enough at the SG position alone to justify such money but we can possibly trade him and get something that would be more useful. Fairly certain Orlando would give us something we might want and picks as well. NY is mortgaging their future but I do not think they have anything we want except picks and picks are only useful as trade assets now we are win now or if you need to draft someone to replace someone that is injured for a year or so like happened in GSW.

In the playoffs Brunson was adequate to get us past Utah which seemed to choke and have bad game planning as its main cause of failure that and it is dysfunctional core was in trouble already and it looks like they realized that finally.

Wood coming to the team along with 2 rookies in Hardy and Bingham give us significant upgrades that make us a contender even if Brunson leaves. We can spend money with a S&T to get someone else when his salary is gone. Till the Brunson issue is resolved we are not in a position to commit to anyone else in free agency or to take on with S&T options.

Wood is the scoring big that rebounds well against most teams and allows us to play with a different approach and play more effective defensive strategies and especially important is the fact we can now limit other teams second chances when we get the ball back without letting them rebound constantly after missing a lot of shots.

Hardy is the combo scoring guard that can probably defend enough already so that other teams cannot isolate on him like they did Brunson to get easy baskets since he is a horrible defender and so short they could easily shoot over him. His scoring will eventually develop and could do so fast to make him a nightmare matchup that would take away the option to double team Luka away from any opponent. If not or until them we have THJ and Bullock available to bomb teams with 3's. Hardy looks to be someone that can drive and get to the rim. Dinwiddie and if we acquire Goran will be the other part that back court to solves issues when Luka is hurt and or tired. Luka gets enough minutes and we can keep them lower with a pair of decent PG's to rest him.

With BIngham developing into a pro faster because he is a senior and able to move like a forward and get blocks and shoot 3's as a 7' center I am fairly certain that he is going to be a better option on day one than ever letting Powell play the 5 ever again. Kleeber may be okay to use periodically when we matchup against other teams that lack true centers but he is not adequate at the 5 we need to move both him and Powell to PF duty only and rarely if ever use them at the 5 ever again,

As they explore what Bingham can do they may want to experiment and play him at the 5 and see what working Wood in as a PF is able to create in terms of creating a better lineup. Maybe they can still use Powell as a PF along with Kleeber and then someone will want to trade for them as PF's instead of using them as 5's. You sort of need to showcase them at their natural position more so other teams can recognize them as PF's and not see them as only centers which is not what they should be used for.

Free agency does not need to get us much more to shore up the teams weaknesses. I expect Dragic would be a simple matter of a phone call to make happen and that would be a deal we could easily afford to pull off if Brunson is gone.

Another veteran center to mentor Bingham might be nice to add. A pair of usable 7' centers would enable us to move Wood to PF and I think his game would work from that position more anyway.

I see other PG's being mentioned as targets but do we even need another PG? With how jealous they can be of each other is it not wise to use our cap space to balance the roster out with other positions. A big Wing might be possible to find.

if Brunson stays then of course he is an asset to trade if we see it beneficial to the teams future. We have enough talented PG's to serve as back up with sufficient quality and the luxury of having 2 starting quality PG's eating up so much cap space to the detriment of our teams balance is sort of dumb to engage in. NY may be doing us all a favor and we need to look at it as such if it ultimately happens. I do already and I am happy for the mavs to use that cap space to address other needs. The TPMLE is sufficient to get us a decent 5 if one exists that the MBT likes.

I see the choices and I may be slow to make a move with what I see out there since none of those options at center motivate me to take on large amounts of salary. Can Ayton be had? If so then he and Wood would make for a great front court. I would certainly consider that an option I would prefer over keeping Brunson but I am not really that high on Ayton anyway. I would like to see what Bingham can do since I think he is a lot like Hardy to slip past the other teams under the radar. If he is special then we are not needing to take on large $$$ to get another true 7' center so that he and Wood can cover that position.

If you have the $$$ to sign Brunson outright do you do that with the thought in mind that he can be useful as a trade asset? If that is the thought process what are the odds it back fires when he is looked at as having a bad contract and not worthy of the $$$? Now you are stuck, NY is probably thinking the same thing. I wonder how much they have been manipulated into taking on this predicament by Brunson's friends and family?

Only reason I would be ok with him staying is because it worked last year and continuity is important. The front court improvement and the return of THJ will give us a level of talent to contend and if Hardy does anything worthwhile then we can look forward to his being here as well.

If he leaves I am equally hopeful because of the options we already have and those that would evolve in that scenario.