What would be your best Luka trade?

Post #1 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:24 pm

Until now, my hope was that this roster is 1 tweak away from contention, after last year then the Wood trade, team had, a mega star in Luka, 2 other guards in Brunson and Dinwiddie set, 3 wings set in THJ/DFS/Bullock, and 2 rotation bigs with opposite skillsets set in Wood and Maxi, and was only starting calibre big away from being a contender, a Capella, JJJ or Gobert type of player, all else would be replaced and improved upon around the edges with exceptions.
Since then, team lost Brunson, and signed McGee, and Kidd is playing highschool jabs game with Wood, THJ came back nowhere near what he was 2 years ago, exacly like he left last year.
The team now has 40 million a year of bad contracts (THJ, Bertans and McGee) each year for the next 3 year, these guys are 20 millions/yr combined at best in reality.
The team has 40/yr invested in strictly 3&D players, 30+ y/o, who fit only a win now team with 2 offensive forces on the floor next to them (DFS, Bullock, Maxi).
Only 2 starter material guys who aren't 3&D in Dinwiddie and Wood, Wood is expiring, and is bad defensive player, Dinwiddie is 30 y/o with injury history.
2 young guys who aren't starter material, maybe Hardy will become something, but he's at least 2 years away.
I don't see a way out, simple as that, when we had one hole to cover, future picks would've done it, and the rest using exception on borderline starter player, now you need to cover 2 major holes, in addition to the need to start refreshing the rotation guys (Dinwiddie and Bullock are expiring next season, and both need to be replaced).

Healthy Luka playing 75 games will make the PO, and probabely make WCSF or WCF if lucky, but Luka never had healthy 70 games season, his playing style + his size doesn't allow it, and the rest of the roster is aging with major holes.

Yes, in my view, we had the sky is falling moment, they can try to run him another 3 years make the PO each year with him playing MVP level, and then he leaves to a team equipped with young balanced roster, or trade him for good players and unprecedented draft package while they have him on 4 years contract and being the most valuable asset to hit the market in the last 30 years (LeBron never hit the market).

Short term, the can sell tickets and enjoy the buzz Luka brings, but in 3 years, they'll be left with absolutely nothing.

I'd focus on 2 teams
Pelicans (Zion, and most their future draft capital Lakers, Bucks and own)
OKC (Giddy, Chet, and all of their future draft capital own + Clippers)

Apz · Post #2 » by **Apz** » Thu Nov 17, 2022 11:24 pm

Unrealistic. Luka wont get traded. It would take a haul bigger then anything ever imagined.
Giannis + 10 picks pretty much guarenteed to be top 5 in next 4 drafts?
An OKC deal, take yours and add SGA. Still dont think mavs do it.

Basicly, it starts with a star at lukas age and everything possible and impossible on top. He is just untradeable. They would dump everything around him instead. Not that that helps when a guy like hardy cant get the chance to develop in a houston game.

To trade luka the max 7 years rule and the stepien rule need to be removed.

Post #3 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:02 am

I think you are the the one being unrealistic, teams would want Luka to compete, not start to rebuild, NOP and OKC are the only team with roster ready to get Luka and start competing on 1 hand, and insane draft capital on the other.

agentofatlas · Post #4 » by **agentofatlas** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:24 am

They have room to make some moves next season cause they have picks to trade. We'll see what they do.

Look I'm all about being critical of the front office but this is just lunacy. Also those trades suck.

Apz · Post #5 » by **Apz** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:05 am

Mavrelous wrote:I think you are the the one being unrealistic, teams would want Luka to compete, not start to rebuild, NOP and OKC are the only team with roster ready to get Luka and start competing on 1 hand, and insane draft capital on the other.

Ofc, anyone having luka competes, even mavs with current roster. Thats why he wont get traded, OKCs complete roster with all he picks is not holding the value luka does.

41Dirk41 · Post #6 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:25 am

Luka X Elon Musk + 2 FRPs

Maverick41 · Post #7 » by **Maverick41** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:17 am

Apz wrote: Giannis + 10 picks pretty much guarenteed to be top 5 in next 4 drafts?

Slow down there cowboy. I HIGHLY doubt MIL even does Giannis for Luka straight up, let alone with any FRPs :lol:

Apz · Post #8 » by **Apz** » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:23 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Apz wrote: Giannis + 10 picks pretty much guarenteed to be top 5 in next 4 drafts?

Slow down there cowboy. I HIGHLY doubt MIL even does Giannis for Luka straight up, let alone with any FRPs

If it was Luka for Giannis, Im 100% sure that mavs say no faster then bucks. But im sure bucks say no too, because he is their guy.

Dmavs12 · Post #9 » by **Dmavs12** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:58 pm

You want Mark Cuban to throw in the towel on a 23 year old generational superstar, for a bunch of picks?

If you can’t build a team with Luka, THEN PICKS DONT MATTER.

Captain_Obvious · Post #10 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:45 pm

Raptors: Barnes, Anunoby and picks.
Darkhorse: Cavs - Garland and Mobley

He is not going to OKC. I wouldn't trade him to the Pelicans s.t. he punks on us for the next 15 years in our division.
Thankfully, no team in LA or NY has any assets to speak of. So I don't worry right now.

41Dirk41 · Post #11 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:01 pm

Delete topic please.

Mr B · Post #12 » by **Mr B** » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:32 am

Apz wrote:Unrealistic. Luka wont get traded. It would take a haul bigger then anything ever imagined.
Giannis + 10 picks pretty much guarenteed to be top 5 in next 4 drafts?
An OKC deal, take yours and add SGA. Still dont think mavs do it.

Basicly, it starts with a star at lukas age and everything possible and impossible on top. He is just untradeable. They would dump everything around him instead. Not that that helps when a guy like hardy cant get the chance to develop in a houston game.

To trade luka the max 7 years rule and the stepien rule need to be removed.

It would take a minimum of 2 young top 10 players and 10 unprotected 1st round draft picks. Plus any team taking Luka also has to take every bad contract they Mavs have. That would be the starting asking price.

Post #13 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 7:58 am

I started this thread because of utter lack of resources Mavs put themselves in, with bloated payroll, and inability to improve, the rest of the season have proved much more than this.
Mavs FO, led by Cuban, is incompetent, utterly incompetent, from sexual harrasement scandals, and hanging nooses in the AAC, to the actual team building.
Jason Kidd is incompetent, he can't draw a play, can't call a TO, and his press conferences are not only a PR nightmare, but acual violation of league rules, and he is still backed by Cuban.

The Dallas Mavericks as an organization need to clean their house, Cuban needs to step down from all decisions, and leave it to a professional, this will be a commitment he needs to make to Silver to make this stupid investigation go away, and other skeletons Stern passed Silver from Cuban's closet.

Cuban also needs to understand he blew his chances with Luka, he can't build a team around him, trade Luka, prioritize picks and young player over proven players, do right by Kyrie, S&T him to wherever he wants, trade THJ to a Florida team where he lives, and start rebuilding under new management.
Cuban also isn't the sole owner, but majority stake holder, the malpractice he displayed is grounds for minority owners lawsuit, Ross Perot Jr has already proven he's willing to get dirty.

There is no way out from the mess Cuban created, clean your house and get your business in order.

41Dirk41 · Post #14 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 8:05 am

Like i said years ago " Probably Cuban will be remembered as the owner who didn't win with Luka Doncic on the roster".

He is unable and the 2011 was only a fluke.

41Dirk41 · Post #15 » by **41Dirk41** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 8:14 am

Like i said years ago " Probably Cuban will be remembered as the owner who didn't win with Luka Doncic on the roster".

He is unable and the 2011 was only a fluke.

Michaellam1987 · Post #16 » by **Michaellam1987** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 3:30 pm

Apz wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:
Apz wrote: Giannis + 10 picks pretty much guarenteed to be top 5 in next 4 drafts?

Slow down there cowboy. I HIGHLY doubt MIL even does Giannis for Luka straight up, let alone with any FRPs

If it was Luka for Giannis, Im 100% sure that mavs say no faster then bucks. But im sure bucks say no too, because he is their guy.

To be fair, if you replace Luka with Giannis, will DAL still be out of playoff?

daoneandonly · Post #17 » by **daoneandonly** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:02 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Delete topic please.

Delete your account, that would be best for everyone. If he's traded, you have to change your sn again to pretend you're a true fan of his new team. Groupie

Warning - personal attack

daoneandonly · Post #18 » by **daoneandonly** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:03 pm

Cleveland is the absolute best option. Trade him to the East, Garland, Mobley, picks. That's a great haul and foundation

Post #19 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:17 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:
Apz wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Slow down there cowboy. I HIGHLY doubt MIL even does Giannis for Luka straight up, let alone with any FRPs

If it was Luka for Giannis, Im 100% sure that mavs say no faster then bucks. But im sure bucks say no too, because he is their guy.

To be fair, if you replace Luka with Giannis, will DAL still be out of playoff?

Yes, because he's a better fit, and better RS player, but remember how much Giannis struggled in the PO, his only successful year came due to Kyrie's injury, Nets were en route to sweep the Bucks, but Kyrie twisted his ankle and the rest is history.

Post #20 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:20 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Cleveland is the absolute best option. Trade him to the East, Garland, Mobley, picks. That's a great haul and foundation

On the trade board Cavs fan said they won't do it, I think they're crazy if they pass on it.

Mitchell
Okuro
Luka
Big Wing with the MLE
JAFRO

That's unstoppable lineup.