Dallas Mavericks 2024 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap post 24 FA

[Mavrelous]

Active roster:
Luka Doncic 43,032
Kyrie Irving 41,000
Klay Thomson 15,873
PJ Washington 15,500
Daniel Gafford 13,394
Maxi Kleber 11,000
Naji Marshal 8,571
Dereck Lively II 5,015
Quentin Grimes 4,297
Dwight Powell 4,000
Dante Exum 3,150
Olivier Maxence-Prosper 2,870
Jaden Hardy 2,019
Spencer Dinwiddie 2,087
Markieff Morris 2,087

Dead cap:
Javale McGee 2,209

Total cap: 176,137

Unlikely Incentives 1,500

Apron cap: 177,587

2-Way
Brandon Williams
Kessler Edwards

Team is harcapped at 1st Apron: 178,132
Mavs have 1 roster spot available, unlcear if they have room under the Apron to sign someone or not, my calculations says yes, Spotrac, seem to indicate no, they know much, much, better than me.
AJ Lawson isn't guaranteed until October 1st, can be waived and someone else sign instead of him.

Mavs have 2 2-Way spots available

Assets:
2025 1st rd pick
2031 1st rd pick
2026 swap
Looks like Mavs cleared all 2nd rd picks they had in the Klay trade, unless the report is correct and they received 2 for Green.


Outlook for next year is Mavs will be 2nd Apron team, with some effort they can drop below it.

Depth chart:
Luka/Exum/Dinwiddie
Kyrie/Grimes/Hardy
Klay/Marshall/Lawson
PJ/Maxi/OMax
Lively/Gafford/Powell

[Mavrelous]

Nico caved and gave them the 2031 2nd, he should've told them to go pound sand and tell Klay they are holding up the deal.

Two seconds for Klay and to get rid of Green, I'll take it. Hopefully Green learns some discipline and starts playing smarter to extend his career pass this contract. Good luck to him!

I also take it with both hands, but I'm just pissed he caved to Mike Dunleavy, they owed Klay the S&T for 1 second rounder, they still acted like POS and extorted more...
Nico is a corporate exec, he doesn't take stuff personal and is cool headed, I, on the other hand, am a hot headed blue collar

[Mavrelous]

It's July 2nd, roster is set, there is nothing to look for, all roster holes are covered, what a contrast from previous years...
2021 - will get Dragic? We need another PG!
2022 - Brunson bolts, McGee signed for the only exception, no way that's it!!!!
2023 - Who's the other forward? Who is the center? Rookie or one of the other 2 undersized washed guys? Who is Exum???

It's very boring from board perspective, there is nothing really to discuss any until November, but it's stability, and it's great...

[Teffer10]

Nice trade and all around moves for the short term.
We basically traded THJ, Green and DJJ for Klay, Marshall and Grimes and that is a huge upgrade.

Not sure where Prosper fits into all of this but I'm hoping they can develop him along the way somehow.

Never really liked Grimes from his days at Kansas, but he has come along well since so hopefully he can prove me wrong.
He seemed very timid on the court for such a high prospect his freshman year.

[41Dirk41]

Active roster:
Luka Doncic 43,032
Kyrie Irving 41,000
Klay Thomson 15,873
PJ Washington 15,500
Daniel Gafford 13,394
Maxi Kleber 11,000
Naji Marshal 8,571
Dereck Lively II 5,015
Quentin Grimes 4,297
Dante Exum 3,150
Olivier Maxence-Prosper 2,870
A.J. Lawson 2,120
Jaden Hardy 2,019

Dead cap:
Javale McGee 2,209
Dwight Powell 4,000
Total cap 174,050

Unlikely Incentives 1,500

Apron cap 175,550

2-Way
Alex Fudge

Team is harcapped at 1st Apron: 178,132
Mavs have 1 roster spot available, unlcear if they have room under the Apron to sign someone or not, my calculations says yes, Spotrac, seem to indicate no, they know much, much, better than me.
AJ Lawson isn't guaranteed until October 1st, can be waived and someone else sign instead of him.

Mavs have 2 2-Way spots available

Assets:
2025 1st rd pick
2031 1st rd pick
2026 swap
Looks like Mavs cleared all 2nd rd picks they had in the Klay trade, unless the report is correct and they received 2 for Green.


Outlook for next year is Mavs will be 2nd Apron team, with some effort they can drop below it.

Fixed

[Bob8]

Active roster:
Luka Doncic 43,032
Kyrie Irving 41,000
Klay Thomson 15,873
PJ Washington 15,500
Daniel Gafford 13,394
Maxi Kleber 11,000
Naji Marshal 8,571
Dereck Lively II 5,015
Quentin Grimes 4,297
Dwight Powell 4,000
Dante Exum 3,150
Olivier Maxence-Prosper 2,870
A.J. Lawson 2,120
Jaden Hardy 2,019

Dead cap:
Javale McGee 2,209

Total cap 174,050

Unlikely Incentives 1,500

Apron cap 175,550

2-Way
Alex Fudge

Team is harcapped at 1st Apron: 178,132
Mavs have 1 roster spot available, unlcear if they have room under the Apron to sign someone or not, my calculations says yes, Spotrac, seem to indicate no, they know much, much, better than me.
AJ Lawson isn't guaranteed until October 1st, can be waived and someone else sign instead of him.

Mavs have 2 2-Way spots available

Assets:
2025 1st rd pick
2031 1st rd pick
2026 swap
Looks like Mavs cleared all 2nd rd picks they had in the Klay trade, unless the report is correct and they received 2 for Green.


Outlook for next year is Mavs will be 2nd Apron team, with some effort they can drop below it.

Logic says that they received 2 seconds for Green, Hornets had to send something back. And I would say that Josh is in Mavs roster very replaceable, more than Kleber, who was a little to cheap to be sent away.

[Captain_Obvious]

Throw the BAE at Dinwiddie - waive Lawson to clear the BAE

edit:
https://thesmokingcuban.com/posts/dallas-mavericks-rumors-interested-underrated-move-bring-back-spencer-dinwiddie

[arkuo]

It's July 2nd, roster is set, there is nothing to look for, all roster holes are covered, what a contrast from previous years...
2021 - will get Dragic? We need another PG!
2022 - Brunson bolts, McGee signed for the only exception, no way that's it!!!!
2023 - Who's the other forward? Who is the center? Rookie or one of the other 2 undersized washed guys? Who is Exum???

It's very boring from board perspective, there is nothing really to discuss any until November, but it's stability, and it's great...

When Donnie was with Dallas, these things would get resolved by the 2nd week of September.

[Bob8]

Nico did incredible job in last 2 years. We got Kyrie for very cheap, Klay for THJ, got great and young C lineup, Washington for 1 distant FRP and 2 very good defensive players and solid shooters in Grimes and Naji. Just incredible work with so little assets, he is Mavs true MVP.

[BliscoSantos]

The FA was a succes...i'm happy with the team, the only thing I'd try to do now is find a replacement for Maxi...if the Spurs are interested in Markkanen I' D try to get in on that trade and see if they'd be willing to give Sochan...Markkanen to SAS, Sochan to Dallas, Maxi/Omax and picks to Utah

[MassimoPayne]

I still see a valuable PF backup in Maxi if he is not injured or coming back from a injury which was rarely the case the last couple of years

[BliscoSantos]

I still see a valuable PF backup in Maxi if he is not injured or coming back from a injury which was rarely the case the last couple of years

That's the biggest problem with him....dude just can't stay healthy...Klay had two major injuries and still played more games than Maxi the last years...Maxi was missing games because of a toe injury...and when he came back he always needed a lot of time to get going but then when he had two good games in a row he got injured again...his situation is starting to give me KP vibes,though he's payed less(but still too much considering his availibility)

[Mavrelous]

Maxi is no longer key rotation player, Marshal is the backup PF, 1-5 will be
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Hardy
Luka/Exum
PJ/Marshal
Lively/Gafford

Powell, Maxi, AJ, OMax are emergency options

[BliscoSantos]

Maxi is no longer key rotation player, Marshal is the backup PF, 1-5 will be
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Hardy
Luka/Exum
PJ/Marshal
Lively/Gafford

Powell, Maxi, AJ, OMax are emergency options

Agree about Powell,AJ,Omax but I think Kidd is still gonna play Maxi.. actually I think he's gonna get more playing time than Hardy, since Grimes will probably back up Kyrie

[Mavrelous]

Maxi is no longer key rotation player, Marshal is the backup PF, 1-5 will be
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Hardy
Luka/Exum
PJ/Marshal
Lively/Gafford

Powell, Maxi, AJ, OMax are emergency options

Agree about Powell,AJ,Omax but I think Kidd is still gonna play Maxi.. actually I think he's gonna get more playing time than Hardy, since Grimes will probably back up Kyrie

That's good, Hard should earn his minutes...
Last year b4 the trade, when Lively was out, the team was dysfunctional, now there is real depth...

[BliscoSantos]

Maxi is no longer key rotation player, Marshal is the backup PF, 1-5 will be
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Hardy
Luka/Exum
PJ/Marshal
Lively/Gafford

Powell, Maxi, AJ, OMax are emergency options

Agree about Powell,AJ,Omax but I think Kidd is still gonna play Maxi.. actually I think he's gonna get more playing time than Hardy, since Grimes will probably back up Kyrie

That's good, Hard should earn his minutes...
Last year b4 the trade, when Lively was out, the team was dysfunctional, now there is real depth...

Hardy and Grimes will both have to prove they can be part of a winning team

[daoneandonly]

Nico caved and gave them the 2031 2nd, he should've told them to go pound sand and tell Klay they are holding up the deal.

Two seconds for Klay and to get rid of Green, I'll take it. Hopefully Green learns some discipline and starts playing smarter to extend his career pass this contract. Good luck to him!

I also take it with both hands, but I'm just pissed he caved to Mike Dunleavy, they owed Klay the S&T for 1 second rounder, they still acted like POS and extorted more...
Nico is a corporate exec, he doesn't take stuff personal and is cool headed, I, on the other hand, am a hot headed blue collar

One knock on Nico is this, he tends to cave rather than really play hard ball

Think about the KP trade to Washington. Why in the blue heck was Dallas the team to give up a 2nd when we had to take on Bertans instead of an expiring like Harrell?

Giving up an unprotected pick swap for Grant Williams was terrible, no reason we couldnt have held out for it to be a 2nd or so

Now giving up another 2nd (or two)? Im glad Josh is gone and replaced with Klay, but at some point Nico ahs to stop being Mr Nice Guy are trying to please everyone.

And with the THJ and Green trades, couldnt Dallas have just signed Klay and Marshall outright?

[arkuo]

If Maxi isn't playable anymore, I'd prefer to invest in another big 6'8 or 6'9 wing that can play both forward positions. In the playoffs, when teams go small, that will be useful.

[arkuo]

Two seconds for Klay and to get rid of Green, I'll take it. Hopefully Green learns some discipline and starts playing smarter to extend his career pass this contract. Good luck to him!

I also take it with both hands, but I'm just pissed he caved to Mike Dunleavy, they owed Klay the S&T for 1 second rounder, they still acted like POS and extorted more...
Nico is a corporate exec, he doesn't take stuff personal and is cool headed, I, on the other hand, am a hot headed blue collar

One knock on Nico is this, he tends to cave rather than really play hard ball

Think about the KP trade to Washington. Why in the blue heck was Dallas the team to give up a 2nd when we had to take on Bertans instead of an expiring like Harrell?

Giving up an unprotected pick swap for Grant Williams was terrible, no reason we couldnt have held out for it to be a 2nd or so

Now giving up another 2nd (or two)? Im glad Josh is gone and replaced with Klay, but at some point Nico ahs to stop being Mr Nice Guy are trying to please everyone.

And with the THJ and Green trades, couldnt Dallas have just signed Klay and Marshall outright?

That Bertans contract got you Dereck Lively man. Without Bertans, you won't get a new center.

[Archx]

Two seconds for Klay and to get rid of Green, I'll take it. Hopefully Green learns some discipline and starts playing smarter to extend his career pass this contract. Good luck to him!

I also take it with both hands, but I'm just pissed he caved to Mike Dunleavy, they owed Klay the S&T for 1 second rounder, they still acted like POS and extorted more...
Nico is a corporate exec, he doesn't take stuff personal and is cool headed, I, on the other hand, am a hot headed blue collar

One knock on Nico is this, he tends to cave rather than really play hard ball

Think about the KP trade to Washington. Why in the blue heck was Dallas the team to give up a 2nd when we had to take on Bertans instead of an expiring like Harrell?

Giving up an unprotected pick swap for Grant Williams was terrible, no reason we couldnt have held out for it to be a 2nd or so

Now giving up another 2nd (or two)? Im glad Josh is gone and replaced with Klay, but at some point Nico ahs to stop being Mr Nice Guy are trying to please everyone.

And with the THJ and Green trades, couldnt Dallas have just signed Klay and Marshall outright?

Unfortunately in this case, Mavs had no leverage. Klay chose Mavs and Nico had to quickly make the deals. Hornets were smart and showed interest in Green (like they did in the past) but they knew Mavs are in a hurry to lock down Klay. If this was a normal situation, i think Green would net Mavs a lot more than just two 2nd's.

Overall Nico turned around this team in a stunning fashion. I'm scared to think how this team would look like if Donnie was still in charge with Cuban. Jordan Clarkson would probably be their 2nd star right now

If Maxi isn't playable anymore, I'd prefer to invest in another big 6'8 or 6'9 wing that can play both forward positions. In the playoffs, when teams go small, that will be useful.

Kidd loves Maxi and him being back to 100%, i guarantee you he'll see his standard minutes again.