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https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/kobe-explained-the-difference-between-triangle-offense-and-todays-basketball#:~:text=Kobe%20Bryant%20broke%20down%20the,the%20game%20on%20another%20level.&text=When%20you're%20great%20at,and%20leave%20nothing%20to%20chance.

I summarized the article and added in my thoughts on Luka Ball, Harden Ball, and these types of offenses...


My summary:

Kobe Bryant's insights on the Triangle offense highlight a fundamental principle in basketball: a well-structured system enhances team performance by empowering all players to contribute meaningfully. The Triangle offense, as Kobe described, provides a "structure" within which players have "complete freedom." This balance allows teams to anticipate defensive strategies and counter them effectively, making the offense "deadly" because it's both predictable and adaptable.

In contrast, the Dallas Mavericks' current system heavily relies on Luka Dončić's individual brilliance in pick-and-roll situations. While Luka is undeniably a talent, this approach poses several issues:

1.Predictability and Defensive Adjustments: Teams that can switch defensively or double-team Luka can disrupt the Mavericks' primary offensive engine. This strategy either forces the ball out of Luka's hands or turns him into a one-on-one player, often guarded by the opponent's best defender. Defenses are often content to let Luka take every shot if it means his teammates remain uninvolved, preventing them from developing any offensive rhythm. As a result, once Luka is neutralized or fatigued, the team lacks alternative creators, making it challenging to sustain offensive effectiveness throughout a game, especially in high-stakes playoff scenarios.

2.Lack of Off-Ball Movement: The Mavericks' offense often stagnates when Luka initiates the pick-and-roll. Aside from the ball handler and the screener, other players tend to remain stationary. This lack of movement makes it easier for defenses to rest and predict offensive actions, reducing the overall dynamism and unpredictability of the team’s attack.

3.Insufficient Preparation for Playoff Basketball: The regular season should be a time for teams to refine their systems and prepare all players for heightened playoff competition. If the Mavericks spend the season with players in narrowly defined roles, they won't be ready to adapt when opponents focus on neutralizing Luka.

3.Moreover, this system doesn't play to Kyrie Irving's strengths. Kyrie, standing at 6'2", excels in offenses that feature ball movement and player motion, allowing him to navigate through screens and exploit defensive lapses. The current Mavericks' offense doesn't provide these opportunities, instead requiring him to operate in isolation against set defenses, often facing taller and longer opponents. This situation limits his effectiveness and doesn't maximize his unique skill set.

Kobe's emphasis on playing basketball "with a purpose" underscores the value of a system where all five players are engaged and capable of making reads and decisions. The Triangle offense's success with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers wasn't just about having superstar talent; it was about leveraging a system that made every player a threat because they understood how to exploit defensive reactions.

In today's NBA, while the Triangle may not be widely used in its traditional form, the principles of structured freedom and collective responsibility remain crucial. Teams like the Golden State Warriors have found success by incorporating constant movement, screens, and a philosophy that empowers all players—allowing talents like Steph Curry to thrive without over-reliance on isolation plays.

In conclusion, the Mavericks would benefit from adopting a more structured offensive system that encourages player movement, ball movement, and shared responsibility. This approach would make the team less predictable, harder to defend, and better prepared for the rigors of playoff basketball. It would also maximize the talents of both Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, allowing them to operate within a system that enhances their abilities while promoting overall team success. By moving away from "accidental basketball" and embracing a purposeful, structured offense, the Mavericks can elevate their game and increase their chances of reaching the NBA's pinnacle.

As someone who watched a lot of Kobe (RIP), there were times he clashed with the team structure. I remember in the 2006 playoffs against the Suns, everyone expected Kobe to go for 40-50 points each game. Instead, the Lakers focused on getting the ball inside, with players like Kwame Brown more involved than ever. For once, it looked like a true team effort instead of just the "Kobe show." Though the Lakers lost that series after going up 3-1, it highlighted that Kobe’s teammates were more capable than the regular season team showed. If the Lakers had committed to this all season—with Kobe excelling within it—they could’ve won more games and been better prepared as a team in the playoffs.

Last note, I remember last year versus OKC we started to post Washington Jr up in the playoffs. Yet, we did very little to none of this in the regular season. All of a sudden, it became a need now. And we wouldn't have won that series without his contributions. We shouldn't continue to negate his potential or any of our players to play a style that inflates Luka's numbers at the expense of limiting our offense and players on this team. In the long run, its not a great recipe.

joesha1698 wrote:https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/kobe-explained-the-difference-between-triangle-offense-and-todays-basketball#:~:text=Kobe%20Bryant%20broke%20down%20the,the%20game%20on%20another%20level.&text=When%20you're%20great%20at,and%20leave%20nothing%20to%20chance.

I summarized the article and added in my thoughts on Luka Ball, Harden Ball, and these types of offenses...


My summary:

Kobe Bryant's insights on the Triangle offense highlight a fundamental principle in basketball: a well-structured system enhances team performance by empowering all players to contribute meaningfully. The Triangle offense, as Kobe described, provides a "structure" within which players have "complete freedom." This balance allows teams to anticipate defensive strategies and counter them effectively, making the offense "deadly" because it's both predictable and adaptable.

In contrast, the Dallas Mavericks' current system heavily relies on Luka Dončić's individual brilliance in pick-and-roll situations. While Luka is undeniably a talent, this approach poses several issues:

1.Predictability and Defensive Adjustments: Teams that can switch defensively or double-team Luka can disrupt the Mavericks' primary offensive engine. This strategy either forces the ball out of Luka's hands or turns him into a one-on-one player, often guarded by the opponent's best defender. Defenses are often content to let Luka take every shot if it means his teammates remain uninvolved, preventing them from developing any offensive rhythm. As a result, once Luka is neutralized or fatigued, the team lacks alternative creators, making it challenging to sustain offensive effectiveness throughout a game, especially in high-stakes playoff scenarios.

2.Lack of Off-Ball Movement: The Mavericks' offense often stagnates when Luka initiates the pick-and-roll. Aside from the ball handler and the screener, other players tend to remain stationary. This lack of movement makes it easier for defenses to rest and predict offensive actions, reducing the overall dynamism and unpredictability of the team’s attack.

3.Insufficient Preparation for Playoff Basketball: The regular season should be a time for teams to refine their systems and prepare all players for heightened playoff competition. If the Mavericks spend the season with players in narrowly defined roles, they won't be ready to adapt when opponents focus on neutralizing Luka.

3.Moreover, this system doesn't play to Kyrie Irving's strengths. Kyrie, standing at 6'2", excels in offenses that feature ball movement and player motion, allowing him to navigate through screens and exploit defensive lapses. The current Mavericks' offense doesn't provide these opportunities, instead requiring him to operate in isolation against set defenses, often facing taller and longer opponents. This situation limits his effectiveness and doesn't maximize his unique skill set.

Kobe's emphasis on playing basketball "with a purpose" underscores the value of a system where all five players are engaged and capable of making reads and decisions. The Triangle offense's success with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers wasn't just about having superstar talent; it was about leveraging a system that made every player a threat because they understood how to exploit defensive reactions.

In today's NBA, while the Triangle may not be widely used in its traditional form, the principles of structured freedom and collective responsibility remain crucial. Teams like the Golden State Warriors have found success by incorporating constant movement, screens, and a philosophy that empowers all players—allowing talents like Steph Curry to thrive without over-reliance on isolation plays.

In conclusion, the Mavericks would benefit from adopting a more structured offensive system that encourages player movement, ball movement, and shared responsibility. This approach would make the team less predictable, harder to defend, and better prepared for the rigors of playoff basketball. It would also maximize the talents of both Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, allowing them to operate within a system that enhances their abilities while promoting overall team success. By moving away from "accidental basketball" and embracing a purposeful, structured offense, the Mavericks can elevate their game and increase their chances of reaching the NBA's pinnacle.

The only solution in this case is trade Luka, get the biggest ransom in Nba history and then build a team around kyrie.

Having Luka playing off ball is just suicidal, because his contract or trading price is not worth what you will get from him. Luka is what he's, built a team around his strengths or trade him. What you're saying might work in some video games but not in real life.

Bob8 wrote:

joesha1698 wrote:https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/kobe-explained-the-difference-between-triangle-offense-and-todays-basketball#:~:text=Kobe%20Bryant%20broke%20down%20the,the%20game%20on%20another%20level.&text=When%20you're%20great%20at,and%20leave%20nothing%20to%20chance.

I summarized the article and added in my thoughts on Luka Ball, Harden Ball, and these types of offenses...


My summary:

Kobe Bryant's insights on the Triangle offense highlight a fundamental principle in basketball: a well-structured system enhances team performance by empowering all players to contribute meaningfully. The Triangle offense, as Kobe described, provides a "structure" within which players have "complete freedom." This balance allows teams to anticipate defensive strategies and counter them effectively, making the offense "deadly" because it's both predictable and adaptable.

In contrast, the Dallas Mavericks' current system heavily relies on Luka Dončić's individual brilliance in pick-and-roll situations. While Luka is undeniably a talent, this approach poses several issues:

1.Predictability and Defensive Adjustments: Teams that can switch defensively or double-team Luka can disrupt the Mavericks' primary offensive engine. This strategy either forces the ball out of Luka's hands or turns him into a one-on-one player, often guarded by the opponent's best defender. Defenses are often content to let Luka take every shot if it means his teammates remain uninvolved, preventing them from developing any offensive rhythm. As a result, once Luka is neutralized or fatigued, the team lacks alternative creators, making it challenging to sustain offensive effectiveness throughout a game, especially in high-stakes playoff scenarios.

2.Lack of Off-Ball Movement: The Mavericks' offense often stagnates when Luka initiates the pick-and-roll. Aside from the ball handler and the screener, other players tend to remain stationary. This lack of movement makes it easier for defenses to rest and predict offensive actions, reducing the overall dynamism and unpredictability of the team’s attack.

3.Insufficient Preparation for Playoff Basketball: The regular season should be a time for teams to refine their systems and prepare all players for heightened playoff competition. If the Mavericks spend the season with players in narrowly defined roles, they won't be ready to adapt when opponents focus on neutralizing Luka.

3.Moreover, this system doesn't play to Kyrie Irving's strengths. Kyrie, standing at 6'2", excels in offenses that feature ball movement and player motion, allowing him to navigate through screens and exploit defensive lapses. The current Mavericks' offense doesn't provide these opportunities, instead requiring him to operate in isolation against set defenses, often facing taller and longer opponents. This situation limits his effectiveness and doesn't maximize his unique skill set.

Kobe's emphasis on playing basketball "with a purpose" underscores the value of a system where all five players are engaged and capable of making reads and decisions. The Triangle offense's success with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers wasn't just about having superstar talent; it was about leveraging a system that made every player a threat because they understood how to exploit defensive reactions.

In today's NBA, while the Triangle may not be widely used in its traditional form, the principles of structured freedom and collective responsibility remain crucial. Teams like the Golden State Warriors have found success by incorporating constant movement, screens, and a philosophy that empowers all players—allowing talents like Steph Curry to thrive without over-reliance on isolation plays.

In conclusion, the Mavericks would benefit from adopting a more structured offensive system that encourages player movement, ball movement, and shared responsibility. This approach would make the team less predictable, harder to defend, and better prepared for the rigors of playoff basketball. It would also maximize the talents of both Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, allowing them to operate within a system that enhances their abilities while promoting overall team success. By moving away from "accidental basketball" and embracing a purposeful, structured offense, the Mavericks can elevate their game and increase their chances of reaching the NBA's pinnacle.

The only solution in this case is trade Luka, get the biggest ransom in Nba history and then build a team around kyrie.

Having Luka playing off ball is just suicidal, because his contract or trading price is not worth what you will get from him. Luka is what he's, built a team around his strengths or trade him. What you're saying might work in some video games but not in real life.

You want heliocentric Luka 82 RS games? THAT is suicidal, he went down with calf strain in 22 missed 1st 3 games of the PO, thigh strain in 23 and didn't look the same after it and played with knee sprain PO in 24.
Luka spread P&R is the go to play, but mixing and matching in RS is the way to go, DFS, Bullock, Powell and Maxi couldn't do it, Lively, PJ, Klay, Grimes and Marshal can.

Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:

joesha1698 wrote:https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/kobe-explained-the-difference-between-triangle-offense-and-todays-basketball#:~:text=Kobe%20Bryant%20broke%20down%20the,the%20game%20on%20another%20level.&text=When%20you're%20great%20at,and%20leave%20nothing%20to%20chance.

I summarized the article and added in my thoughts on Luka Ball, Harden Ball, and these types of offenses...


My summary:

Kobe Bryant's insights on the Triangle offense highlight a fundamental principle in basketball: a well-structured system enhances team performance by empowering all players to contribute meaningfully. The Triangle offense, as Kobe described, provides a "structure" within which players have "complete freedom." This balance allows teams to anticipate defensive strategies and counter them effectively, making the offense "deadly" because it's both predictable and adaptable.

In contrast, the Dallas Mavericks' current system heavily relies on Luka Dončić's individual brilliance in pick-and-roll situations. While Luka is undeniably a talent, this approach poses several issues:

1.Predictability and Defensive Adjustments: Teams that can switch defensively or double-team Luka can disrupt the Mavericks' primary offensive engine. This strategy either forces the ball out of Luka's hands or turns him into a one-on-one player, often guarded by the opponent's best defender. Defenses are often content to let Luka take every shot if it means his teammates remain uninvolved, preventing them from developing any offensive rhythm. As a result, once Luka is neutralized or fatigued, the team lacks alternative creators, making it challenging to sustain offensive effectiveness throughout a game, especially in high-stakes playoff scenarios.

2.Lack of Off-Ball Movement: The Mavericks' offense often stagnates when Luka initiates the pick-and-roll. Aside from the ball handler and the screener, other players tend to remain stationary. This lack of movement makes it easier for defenses to rest and predict offensive actions, reducing the overall dynamism and unpredictability of the team’s attack.

3.Insufficient Preparation for Playoff Basketball: The regular season should be a time for teams to refine their systems and prepare all players for heightened playoff competition. If the Mavericks spend the season with players in narrowly defined roles, they won't be ready to adapt when opponents focus on neutralizing Luka.

3.Moreover, this system doesn't play to Kyrie Irving's strengths. Kyrie, standing at 6'2", excels in offenses that feature ball movement and player motion, allowing him to navigate through screens and exploit defensive lapses. The current Mavericks' offense doesn't provide these opportunities, instead requiring him to operate in isolation against set defenses, often facing taller and longer opponents. This situation limits his effectiveness and doesn't maximize his unique skill set.

Kobe's emphasis on playing basketball "with a purpose" underscores the value of a system where all five players are engaged and capable of making reads and decisions. The Triangle offense's success with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers wasn't just about having superstar talent; it was about leveraging a system that made every player a threat because they understood how to exploit defensive reactions.

In today's NBA, while the Triangle may not be widely used in its traditional form, the principles of structured freedom and collective responsibility remain crucial. Teams like the Golden State Warriors have found success by incorporating constant movement, screens, and a philosophy that empowers all players—allowing talents like Steph Curry to thrive without over-reliance on isolation plays.

In conclusion, the Mavericks would benefit from adopting a more structured offensive system that encourages player movement, ball movement, and shared responsibility. This approach would make the team less predictable, harder to defend, and better prepared for the rigors of playoff basketball. It would also maximize the talents of both Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, allowing them to operate within a system that enhances their abilities while promoting overall team success. By moving away from "accidental basketball" and embracing a purposeful, structured offense, the Mavericks can elevate their game and increase their chances of reaching the NBA's pinnacle.

The only solution in this case is trade Luka, get the biggest ransom in Nba history and then build a team around kyrie.

Having Luka playing off ball is just suicidal, because his contract or trading price is not worth what you will get from him. Luka is what he's, built a team around his strengths or trade him. What you're saying might work in some video games but not in real life.

You want heliocentric Luka 82 RS games? THAT is suicidal, he went down with calf strain in 22 missed 1st 3 games of the PO, thigh strain in 23 and didn't look the same after it and played with knee sprain PO in 24.
Luka spread P&R is the go to play, but mixing and matching in RS is the way to go, DFS, Bullock, Powell and Maxi couldn't do it, Lively, PJ, Klay, Grimes and Marshal can.

It doesn't look like they can.

And if that's true just cut Luka's minutes. At the moment he's averaging the most minutes in his career. I'm not sure playing 38 minutes, some of ball, is the way to go.

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:
The only solution in this case is trade Luka, get the biggest ransom in Nba history and then build a team around kyrie.

Having Luka playing off ball is just suicidal, because his contract or trading price is not worth what you will get from him. Luka is what he's, built a team around his strengths or trade him. What you're saying might work in some video games but not in real life.

You want heliocentric Luka 82 RS games? THAT is suicidal, he went down with calf strain in 22 missed 1st 3 games of the PO, thigh strain in 23 and didn't look the same after it and played with knee sprain PO in 24.
Luka spread P&R is the go to play, but mixing and matching in RS is the way to go, DFS, Bullock, Powell and Maxi couldn't do it, Lively, PJ, Klay, Grimes and Marshal can.

It doesn't look like they can.

And if that's true just cut Luka's minutes. At the moment he's averaging the most minutes in his career. I'm not sure playing 38 minutes, some of ball, is the way to go.

Team is battling with injuries, at one point 4 of the top 8 rotation players are missing.
More realistic that offense be initiated by someone else to deload, and the team isn't very effecient offensively, it's not like they are tearing it up.

Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:
You want heliocentric Luka 82 RS games? THAT is suicidal, he went down with calf strain in 22 missed 1st 3 games of the PO, thigh strain in 23 and didn't look the same after it and played with knee sprain PO in 24.
Luka spread P&R is the go to play, but mixing and matching in RS is the way to go, DFS, Bullock, Powell and Maxi couldn't do it, Lively, PJ, Klay, Grimes and Marshal can.

It doesn't look like they can.

And if that's true just cut Luka's minutes. At the moment he's averaging the most minutes in his career. I'm not sure playing 38 minutes, some of ball, is the way to go.

Team is battling with injuries, at one point 4 of the top 8 rotation players are missing.
More realistic that offense be initiated by someone else to deload, and the team isn't very effecient offensively, it's not like they are tearing it up.

There's 1 interesting stat. We all know that Mavs are struggling in Q1. Luka has 108.1 offensive rtg in Q1, which is bad, but the shocking part is, Mavs have 83.3 offensive rtg when he's off in Q1. That means Mavs can't play in Q1 without him. Luka has + 37.7 net on/off rtg in Q1. Small sample size, 113 minutes on and 31 off, but nevertheless shocking stat.

My point is easy, if Luka is not having the ball in his hands, he's basically useless. He's not good off ball player, he's not great shooter and he's not good defender. Team should basically play better without him. Unfortunately I see 0 evidence that's even remotely true.

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:
It doesn't look like they can.

And if that's true just cut Luka's minutes. At the moment he's averaging the most minutes in his career. I'm not sure playing 38 minutes, some of ball, is the way to go.

Team is battling with injuries, at one point 4 of the top 8 rotation players are missing.
More realistic that offense be initiated by someone else to deload, and the team isn't very effecient offensively, it's not like they are tearing it up.

There's 1 interesting stat. We all know that Mavs are struggling in Q1. Luka has 108.1 offensive rtg in Q1, which is bad, but the shocking part is, Mavs have 83.3 offensive rtg when he's off in Q1. That means Mavs can't play in Q1 without him. Luka has + 37.7 net on/off rtg in Q1.

Luka had negative impact against the Jazz when Kyrie was out, there is more to the on/off numbers than team can't play w/o Luka.

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Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:
Team is battling with injuries, at one point 4 of the top 8 rotation players are missing.
More realistic that offense be initiated by someone else to deload, and the team isn't very effecient offensively, it's not like they are tearing it up.

There's 1 interesting stat. We all know that Mavs are struggling in Q1. Luka has 108.1 offensive rtg in Q1, which is bad, but the shocking part is, Mavs have 83.3 offensive rtg when he's off in Q1. That means Mavs can't play in Q1 without him. Luka has + 37.7 net on/off rtg in Q1.

Luka had negative impact against the Jazz when Kyrie was out, there is more to the on/off numbers than team can't play w/o Luka.

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I'm not saying that Luka is good, he obviously isn't, I'm saying that Mavs didn't show anything that Luka's off ball can work, quite the contrary. What they are doing doesn't work with results and doesn't work with letting important players fresh for playoffs. I would play Luka's ball for 30 minutes - time Kyrie playing his magical ISO and rest him other time. He's not positive player without the ball and being targeted in D for sure doesn't help with your concerns about his conditioning. He must play less.

But if after 3 years our supposed coach doesn't find a solution maybe it's time to try someone else... This roster is very good, a lot of players can create his own shots so it's impossible that they can't play 15 minutes a game without Luka.

We were honestly unwatchable in last games, i don't think the problem is Luka off the ball or Luka hero ball... Like bob said days ago we look like 12 guys at the park.

good robust discussion. i would just add, why shouldn't we expect Luka to improve? Jason Kidd used to be Ason Kidd...He developed a jumper. Even Lonzo Ball developed a jump shot. Luka could learn to play without the ball. He's only 25-26? I guess in a world where Ben Simmons goes his whole career without being willing to take a shot - we now accept as a society someone not expected to get better in a weak area.

I think Luka playing off the ball will help his career longevity. Taking less abuse. Less pressure on those knees. Come off some high screens like Dirk and Larry Bird ...get that baby fat moving. He'll probably drop 20 pounds doing the season playing that way.. It will also force him to play faster and more in the flow so he's not ball hogging as much. Lets face it, in that Utah game, dude came down lookin like the white Antoine walker and took every shot....you have to let your teammates touch the ball and be involved...in the long it will get us further along as a team.

Just sayin..

please bring this guy back for his toughness alone:

I don't ever wish to see Kobe's name mentioned on a Mavs forum.

This game versus the spurs is exactly how the Mavs should play now on. I'm not the only one who saw that ball movement and passing? Everyone was involved and Luka had plenty of make able shots and got the ball in an arrange of ways. Sure we had some issues early on in the game because we're still getting use to an actual team concept. Theres no reason for Luka to bring the ball every play or initiate every possession of basketball. Guys have to be able to play and make decisions...in the long run this makes us that much more dangerous of a basketball team.. I can go on and on but its just common sense.

Or spurs just sucks? You can question as much as u want, doesnt make you right

You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.

footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.

They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it
;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.

Mavrelous wrote:

footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.

They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it

Watch on YouTube

;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.

No, it's 5 out offense. Look at spacing. We have Lively and Gafford now.

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:

footworkonpoint wrote:You know how the triangle featured Jordan/Kobe getting the ball in post up situations. Luka has a great post up game and can pass out of those situations I am not saying they should do this all game bur wouldn't adding that wrinkle in not only put Luka in good siautions and conserve his energy at the same time?

Instead of kinda Luka takes it Kyrie takes it they could implement siautions where Kyrie or someone else handles the ball and gets it to Luka in good post positions especially if Luka is a bit gas at times.

What do you guys think any reasons this wouldn't work in theory?
I know Luka likes to dribble into his post game but I don't see any reason this wouldn't work.

Luka has some of the best foot work in the game.

They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it

Watch on YouTube

;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.

No, it's 5 out offense. Look at spacing. We have Lively and Gafford now.

Watch the video, many Powell possessions in there...
5 out is a reason also of course, but I remember Kyrie making entry passes to Luka much less than when Brunson or Dinwiddie were the other guards.

Mavrelous wrote:

Bob8 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:
They used it a lot in Kidd's 1st year, here is a highlight clip of Luka post ups from that year, an it didn't cover all of it

Watch on YouTube

;t=379s

I think the reason is Kyrie Vs Brunson, Kyrie is a much better off ball player than Brunson, while Brunson is a better floor general than Kyrie, so they play to their strengths, luka also regressed a lot this year around the rim, he used to finish at ~80%, and most of it is floaters, bankers and contested layups, this year he's way down.

No, it's 5 out offense. Look at spacing. We have Lively and Gafford now.

Watch the video, many Powell possessions in there...
5 out is a reason also of course, but I remember Kyrie making entry passes to Luka much less than when Brunson or Dinwiddie were the other guards.

Powell was standing on perimeter a lot. Spacing was just on totally different level and I will not even mention playoffs series against Clippers with Rick. There was a reason for Luka's dominance.

One of the reason for Luka struggling this year is that Mavs are playing totally chaotic offense, being in wrong places a lot, killing spacing and making Luka's life far more difficult, especially when, mostly, opponents take lob threat away. Luka is not built to beat opponents with speed, he needs something and he's getting nothing.