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Ugh, when will the next W come?

1-6... Will it be enough for fire the guy on the bench? I just hope.

It's been a rough 10 days, started with Luka's injury and then a series of bad news, team is primed to be back minus Luka and Exum, hopefully they can gain back some of the ground the was lost.

Fire Kidd. hire Brown.

Man... If OKC get Cam it's going to be insanely difficult to beat such a stacked team. Standings are probably going to be even more important since everyone will want to avoid OKC as much as possible. Would be awesome if Mavs stop losing games at this point and aim for a top 4 result. Can't believe even freaking Lakers are ahead now lol.

Archx wrote:Man... If OKC get Cam it's going to be insanely difficult to beat such a stacked team. Standings are probably going to be even more important since everyone will want to avoid OKC as much as possible. Would be awesome if Mavs stop losing games at this point and aim for a top 4 result. Can't believe even freaking Lakers are ahead now lol.

Yea been rough. 2025 has been a rough start in my life for multiple reasons, Mavs stinking has made it worse.

The league cost us the Kings game by unnecessarily suspending PJ. Naji getting longer than Nurk was absurd. Lively being so injury prone is concerning.

GermanFan120 wrote:Fire Kidd. hire Brown.

He can't be worse than Kidd ,my friend... And i agree, it's sad. Very sad.

Archx wrote:Man... If OKC get Cam it's going to be insanely difficult to beat such a stacked team. Standings are probably going to be even more important since everyone will want to avoid OKC as much as possible. Would be awesome if Mavs stop losing games at this point and aim for a top 4 result. Can't believe even freaking Lakers are ahead now lol.

There are always 5 men on the court.

However i don't care too much about opponents right now, we have a lot of problems.
Health is the first. Kidd the second.

41Dirk41 wrote:

Archx wrote:Man... If OKC get Cam it's going to be insanely difficult to beat such a stacked team. Standings are probably going to be even more important since everyone will want to avoid OKC as much as possible. Would be awesome if Mavs stop losing games at this point and aim for a top 4 result. Can't believe even freaking Lakers are ahead now lol.

There are always 5 men on the court.

However i don't care too much about opponents right now, we have a lot of problems.
Health is the first. Kidd the second.

Yeah fully agree. Health and Kidd both are huge issues. These games when you miss a lot of important players (including both go2 stars), Kidd could be a lot smarter and develop young guys. Or simply stop forcing offense where role players are tasked to play like MVP superstars, it never worked for any team.

For example. Maxi played 16 minutes for no reason at all, then Dinwiddie 23 mins just doing cardio, same with Hardy who's been terrible for most of the season. Even though last night he got hot later on, he was still -19 in 25 mins.

B.Williams and even OMax started showing a ton of potential but first guy played only 20 mins and the other 7 mins. Gortman was good in limited minutes anytime he played but barely got 4 mins.
So yeah, these things start to pile up the further you are in season and then when you need depth and youth, you simply don't have it because you miss out on opportunities like these. OKC developed young players the right way, Mavs are doing it the wrong way and it shows.

But problem is, Kidd is riding high on playoff result and is being saved by injuries, so no matter how angry we get, there is no way he gets fired this season. Unless Mavs go 5-20 with a fully healthy roster, only then i could see him being let go.

Archx wrote:

41Dirk41 wrote:

Archx wrote:Man... If OKC get Cam it's going to be insanely difficult to beat such a stacked team. Standings are probably going to be even more important since everyone will want to avoid OKC as much as possible. Would be awesome if Mavs stop losing games at this point and aim for a top 4 result. Can't believe even freaking Lakers are ahead now lol.

There are always 5 men on the court.

However i don't care too much about opponents right now, we have a lot of problems.
Health is the first. Kidd the second.

Yeah fully agree. Health and Kidd both are huge issues. These games when you miss a lot of important players (including both go2 stars), Kidd could be a lot smarter and develop young guys. Or simply stop forcing offense where role players are tasked to play like MVP superstars, it never worked for any team.

For example. Maxi played 16 minutes for no reason at all, then Dinwiddie 23 mins just doing cardio, same with Hardy who's been terrible for most of the season. Even though last night he got hot later on, he was still -19 in 25 mins.

B.Williams and even OMax started showing a ton of potential but first guy played only 20 mins and the other 7 mins. Gortman was good in limited minutes anytime he played but barely got 4 mins.
So yeah, these things start to pile up the further you are in season and then when you need depth and youth, you simply don't have it because you miss out on opportunities like these. OKC developed young players the right way, Mavs are doing it the wrong way and it shows.

But problem is, Kidd is riding high on playoff result and is being saved by injuries, so no matter how angry we get, there is no way he gets fired this season. Unless Mavs go 5-20 with a fully healthy roster, only then i could see him being let go.

We are on pace for 4-20... And after Memphis game maybe for 3-18.

I don't think Luka injury can justify that record and save Kidd ass. No way. I'm pretty sure about it.

41Dirk41 wrote:

Archx wrote:

41Dirk41 wrote:
There are always 5 men on the court.

However i don't care too much about opponents right now, we have a lot of problems.
Health is the first. Kidd the second.

Yeah fully agree. Health and Kidd both are huge issues. These games when you miss a lot of important players (including both go2 stars), Kidd could be a lot smarter and develop young guys. Or simply stop forcing offense where role players are tasked to play like MVP superstars, it never worked for any team.

For example. Maxi played 16 minutes for no reason at all, then Dinwiddie 23 mins just doing cardio, same with Hardy who's been terrible for most of the season. Even though last night he got hot later on, he was still -19 in 25 mins.

B.Williams and even OMax started showing a ton of potential but first guy played only 20 mins and the other 7 mins. Gortman was good in limited minutes anytime he played but barely got 4 mins.
So yeah, these things start to pile up the further you are in season and then when you need depth and youth, you simply don't have it because you miss out on opportunities like these. OKC developed young players the right way, Mavs are doing it the wrong way and it shows.

But problem is, Kidd is riding high on playoff result and is being saved by injuries, so no matter how angry we get, there is no way he gets fired this season. Unless Mavs go 5-20 with a fully healthy roster, only then i could see him being let go.

We are on pace for 4-20... And after Memphis game maybe for 3-18.

I don't think Luka injury can justify that record and save Kidd ass. No way. I'm pretty sure about it.

I believe this board is by default too pessimistic, just remember last playoffs, when everyone just gave up on fat/lazy/injured Luka in round 1. And we finished in Finals. Now is the same story, yes Mavs are losing games, but those games are away games against good teams, when Luka was first time out, Mavs have played against bad teams, against OKC without all 3 front court players and against struggling Denver. Nba schedule is very uneven by months, we're just in the most difficult period. If Luka doesn't miss much more than 1 month, Mavs will be in position to fight for home court advantage, but to be honest seed 7 and seed 2 might be the best. You just don't want to be 8th, 4th or 5th. But in the end you will very likely need to beat OKC without home court advantage anyway. So there's not much difference where you end. Luka not playing many games might be big advantage for Mavs.

Bob8 wrote:

41Dirk41 wrote:

Archx wrote:
Yeah fully agree. Health and Kidd both are huge issues. These games when you miss a lot of important players (including both go2 stars), Kidd could be a lot smarter and develop young guys. Or simply stop forcing offense where role players are tasked to play like MVP superstars, it never worked for any team.

For example. Maxi played 16 minutes for no reason at all, then Dinwiddie 23 mins just doing cardio, same with Hardy who's been terrible for most of the season. Even though last night he got hot later on, he was still -19 in 25 mins.

B.Williams and even OMax started showing a ton of potential but first guy played only 20 mins and the other 7 mins. Gortman was good in limited minutes anytime he played but barely got 4 mins.
So yeah, these things start to pile up the further you are in season and then when you need depth and youth, you simply don't have it because you miss out on opportunities like these. OKC developed young players the right way, Mavs are doing it the wrong way and it shows.

But problem is, Kidd is riding high on playoff result and is being saved by injuries, so no matter how angry we get, there is no way he gets fired this season. Unless Mavs go 5-20 with a fully healthy roster, only then i could see him being let go.

We are on pace for 4-20... And after Memphis game maybe for 3-18.

I don't think Luka injury can justify that record and save Kidd ass. No way. I'm pretty sure about it.

I believe this board is by default too pessimistic, just remember last playoffs, when everyone just gave up on fat/lazy/injured Luka in round 1. And we finished in Finals. Now is the same story, yes Mavs are losing games, but those games are away games against good teams, when Luka was first time out, Mavs have played against bad teams, against OKC without all 3 front court players and against struggling Denver. Nba schedule is very uneven by months, we're just in the most difficult period. If Luka doesn't miss much more than 1 month, Mavs will be in position to fight for home court advantage, but to be honest seed 7 and seed 2 might be the best. You just don't want to be 8th, 4th or 5th. But in the end you will very likely need to beat OKC without home court advantage anyway. So there's not much difference where you end. Luka not playing many games might be big advantage for Mavs.

I don't think this time this board is pessimistic, nobody talked about bad season/no PO season/or something else. We all know how good and deep is this roster.
Best roster after 2011 for sure.

If your point is "with Luka we can even have an empty chair as a coach" it's ok because you are probably right

But Kidd is still a mediocre to bad coach and he doesn't deserve to coach this roster. That's sure.

Portland is a good team?

Learn something everyday.

daoneandonly wrote:Portland is a good team?

Learn something everyday.

The Ls against Portland and Utah are the perfect examples to judge the coach job.

We don't need the full squad to win those games but a good coach is needed.

I repeat, we are 1-5 down the stretch.
Numbers don't lie.

So or this roster is overrated or Kidd is a bad coach. No third options. I'm sorry.

6 games losing streak guaranteed.

To be honest, the losing streak have made me a decent amount of money on my bets. With the way Luka was walking today, I think he'd be out more than a month. That walk looked like a 6 to 8 week type of thing.

arkuo wrote:To be honest, the losing streak have made me a decent amount of money on my bets. With the way Luka was walking today, I think he'd be out more than a month. That walk looked like a 6 to 8 week type of thing.

Yes, Luka won't be back before Feb 20th, after ASB, that video made it clear.
This team fully healthy sans Luka (hopefullt Exum joins), is competetive enough, it just was deimated with injuries/suspenions/illnesses

Wow, Kyrie is still out.

Mavrelous wrote:Wow, Kyrie is still out.

At this point, I wonder if their keeping Kyrie out to evaluate what they have before the trade deadline. Jimmy Bulter would be perfect for this team. He's basically what we're missing. Defense and toughness. Another leader that will be respected by Kyrie and Luka. Jimmy just seems to expense for what we would have to give up.


If we could get Jimmy without giving up one of these guys - we should entertain it....not sure about the cap stuff.
Luka - of course
Kyrie - of course
PJ
Lively
Klay

I might start
Luka
Kyrie
Bulter or Klay
Washington or Bulter
Lively

I'm dreaming. But we would have to make multiple trades depending on who we let go.

joesha1698 wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:Wow, Kyrie is still out.

At this point, I wonder if their keeping Kyrie out to evaluate what they have before the trade deadline. Jimmy Bulter would be perfect for this team. He's basically what we're missing. Defense and toughness. Another leader that will be respected by Kyrie and Luka. Jimmy just seems to expense for what we would have to give up.

0 chance, Mavs don't have the salaries to match