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Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:54 am
by Mavrelous
Roster:

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Anthony Davis 54,126
Kyrie Irving 36,728
Klay Thompson 16,667
Daniel Gafford 14,386
PJ Washington 14,152
Cooper Flagg 13,825
Caleb Martin 9,560
Naji Marshall 9
Max Christie 7,714
Jaden Hardy 6
D'Angelo Russel 4,685
Derek Lively II 5,253
Dwight Powell 4
Olivier-Maxence Prosper 3
Brandon Williams 2,27

Dead money 2,2



15 players on roster.

Apron:
Total salaries 202.5M
With dead money and incentive
206M
Second Apron ~208
Team is harcapped at 2nd Apron, there is less than vet min spot below the hard cap.

Available picks:
Mavs 31 or 32
Lakers 29

Mavs have 2-3 seconds to send also.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:07 am
by Mavrelous
My personal position is that Mavs need to:
1. Fire Nico, this is the key to Mavs path moving forward, any more decision he makes will dig the Mavs into a deeper hole.
2. Trade AD to either Rockets or Thunder, in the same trade try to get their pick back from CHA, AD is still worth a lot and can restock the asset shelf
3. Trade Martin, Kyrie, PJ and Gafford for assets, and rebuild from scratch around Lively

Kyrie isn't the difference between a contender and a lottery team, the team w/o Kyrie has shown it's not a PO team by any stretch, and this is a very important realization moving forward, building around 2 fragile stars for a team that making the conference finals would a surprise for isn't smart.

Example:
Trade AD for Hartenstein, Topic, Wiggins, 28 swap back OKC pick in 27 (has swap with Clippers) and 2 Nuggets 1sts.
Trade Hertenstein for Grant Williams, Josh Green and Mavs 27 1st.

This gives the Mavs control over 26, 27 and 28 drafts, and 3 years of full rebuild.
Trade Gafford and PJ for Maxi (has to go to a 3rd team) and Vando and Lakers 31st pick

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:10 am
by Archx
What can we even say about this season? AI in NBA2k wouldn't even be able to script it like this, it's not this dumb. Luka and then Grimes wanting out because of dirty games by one person in the FO. Both trades pure disasterclass.

Just no words at this point anymore. I liked Brandon Williams since the start and wanted to see him play more. Luckily Kidd fell upwards and was forced to play him and i'm happy he got a roster spot. That's about it.

PJ and Gafford will eventually have to be re-signed but they'll both probably be 2expensive to keep. So i think one of them will be gone soon as well. Navigating this roster will be incredibly hard and Mavs will have to rely on two injury prone players moving forward. KD trade will also be in play and that will instantly sink this franchise for the future.

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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:28 am
by arkuo
Any chance they sign Kai Jones?

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:32 am
by Mavrelous
arkuo wrote:Any chance they sign Kai Jones?

They should, he's interesting and I think he's still eligible for 2-way.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:09 am
by arkuo
AD needs to get surgery if it were up to me. He is not getting full range of motion now. The difference in movement is noticeable. I have no idea when it comes to healing time period for these types of injuries but Kyrie is out until January or February anyway.

If AD moves to center, that opens up the PF slot back for PJ and/or if they move him for KD. There is no way KD is agile enough to play SF now. If they are in the market for him. BIG IF. It does make sense for Nico though. He tied himself to Kyrie, AD, and Kidd's contract length. KD should line up with that if he wants it. If it doesnt work, they all leave at the same time.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:16 am
by 41Dirk41
arkuo wrote:AD needs to get surgery if it were up to me. He is not getting full range of motion now. The difference in movement is noticeable. I have no idea when it comes to healing time period for these types of injuries but Kyrie is out until January or February anyway.

If AD moves to center, that opens up the PF slot back for PJ and/or if they move him for KD. There is no way KD is agile enough to play SF now. If they are in the market for him. BIG IF. It does make sense for Nico though. He tied himself to Kyrie, AD, and Kidd's contract length. KD should line up with that if he wants it. If it doesnt work, they all leave at the same time.


Yes, right now we need a revolution not a couple of trade.

This roster is not easily fixable, add AD forced everybody to play out of position.
And this carry us to fail.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:26 am
by Teffer10
arkuo wrote:Any chance they sign Kai Jones?

I think Jones will be Gafford's replacement after we trade him although AD and Lively will get most of the minutes at Center.
Gafford seems like the likely guy out to fetch a starting caliber PG.

And I'll be shocked if we keep the pick. My guess is they'll make some type of draft day trade.
Draft picks mean absolutely nothing to Nico at this point.
If Nico isn't fired before the draft like he definitely should be, look for a trade of some type.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:35 am
by Darren
LaMelo Ball, Thybulle, Isaac and Monk. Is it possible to pull off a miracle?

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:36 am
by Darren
arkuo wrote:Any chance they sign Kai Jones?


Kai Jones still needs strength to hit the rotation. Right now, Kai's looking like Brandon Wright or DJ M' Benga to me.

I like Lively also needs strength at the core muscles (at the belt and at the back) surrounding the back bone. I also want Lively to develop offense in Wemby or Chet manner to make better use of the passing instincts. Don't get me wrong. Gafford is solid but to play against lengthy bigs, you still need Lively. If Lively could space the floor and make plays like C-Webb, it's even more difficult to guard AD. I think Lively can average more blocks and rebounds with better strength and awareness.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:25 am
by arkuo
The tricky thing is PJ and Gaff. Both will need fresh new contracts soon and I don't think Dallas gets to keep both with big new deals.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:01 pm
by 41Dirk41
Rebuild. End of the story. This roster is a recipe for mediocrity.

I prefer a new start soon.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:22 pm
by arkuo
41Dirk41 wrote:Rebuild. End of the story. This roster is a recipe for mediocrity.

I prefer a new start soon.



This happens after Nico leaves. Kyrie, AD and Kidd all have their contracts aligned to Nico. Nico's going all in on this product that he feels can go all the way. In his mind in works. So he's betting on this group. If it doesnt work then all 4 of them walk. Mavs start the rebuild. The earliest that happens is probably 3 to 4 years from now.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:17 pm
by Mavrelous
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:56 pm
by Archx
If this and other reports of Dumont finally "hearing" fire Nico chants are true, then the future of this team is literally in the balance :D This saga will never end until ENTIRE Nico personnel is gone. Him and his "yes-man staff" did so much damage in the past 2 years, i don't know if the next branch will be able to fix it in the next 10 years...

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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:44 pm
by arkuo
For conversation sake, how about just trading AD for KD straight up then?

KD can play PF which means you do not need to trade Lively and Gaff. Phoenix needs a big man after trading Ayton. Salaries should be pretty close.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:52 pm
by arkuo
Depends on what happens to Nico the next few weeks, a quick rebuild solution is to trade Kyrie for Trae Young, whose days are numbered in Atlanta. And trade AD for Lauri Markannen. Then bring everyone else back. It's the same thing.

These are basically the same guys with lighter skin color. Does the same things. Production-wise you're looking to fill 2 guys who get you 25 to 27 ppg. Young and Markannen gets you that.

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:00 pm
by Archx
Nico live press conference.


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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:04 pm
by Archx
"We discussed everything when we traded Luka" ... Dude, you went under the table in secret to trade him. What a liar :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:21 pm
by Archx
Holy **** this press conference is a huge disaster for Nico. They are eating him alive :lol: