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Both are 6-7 underized 3/4 with long arms.
Do you think PJ can ever surpass Marion?

Hell no.

The Matrix was a 22+12 all star and DPOY candidate in his prime, he was 1/2 tier over PJ for sure.

41Dirk41 wrote:Hell no.

The Matrix was a 22+12 all star and DPOY candidate in his prime, he was 1/2 tier over PJ for sure.

Agree. Marion is a way above Washington. Marion might even end out in the HOF. Basketball reference has him at a 75.6% chance to make it.

PJ doesn't have the physical capability to be like prime Marion. I don't think there was ever an official measurement on Marion's wingspan but it was called "pterodactyl-like". His arms were so long it visibly affected the way he would walk normally.

Marion was also one of the most athletic players in NBA history, even the old shell of his former self version the Mavs had would still usually be one of the most athletic players on the court. He was just a tier below being a superstar at his best in Phoenix, if he had a better handle he could have been a superstar.

PJ's a solid starter, but he's no prime Marion

MrGoat wrote:PJ doesn't have the physical capability to be like prime Marion. I don't think there was ever an official measurement on Marion's wingspan but it was called "pterodactyl-like". His arms were so long it visibly affected the way he would walk normally.

Marion was also one of the most athletic players in NBA history, even the old shell of his former self version the Mavs had would still usually be one of the most athletic players on the court. He was just a tier below being a superstar at his best in Phoenix, if he had a better handle he could have been a superstar.

PJ's a solid starter, but he's no prime Marion

Probably even Mavs Marion was better than PJ prime... And i like PJ, but it's another tier.

41Dirk41 wrote:

MrGoat wrote:PJ doesn't have the physical capability to be like prime Marion. I don't think there was ever an official measurement on Marion's wingspan but it was called "pterodactyl-like". His arms were so long it visibly affected the way he would walk normally.

Marion was also one of the most athletic players in NBA history, even the old shell of his former self version the Mavs had would still usually be one of the most athletic players on the court. He was just a tier below being a superstar at his best in Phoenix, if he had a better handle he could have been a superstar.

PJ's a solid starter, but he's no prime Marion

Probably even Mavs Marion was better than PJ prime... And i like PJ, but it's another tier.

That one is at least debatable. PJ will never be prime Marion, but Marion had fallen off quite a bit from his peak by the time he landed in Dallas. If the 2011 Mavs would have been able to turn back the clocks on Kidd and Marion and not let Chandler walk it would have been a 5 peat. I still think it could have been a two peat if they just didn't let Tyson walk, Kidd still had enough in 2012

Darren wrote:Both are 6-7 underized 3/4 with long arms.
Do you think PJ can ever surpass Marion?

If you take part in fantasy basketball, Marion was the first overall pick for two seasons. He was valueable.

I think our coaching staff has greatly helped PJ.