Dal/Cle/Ind Response Trade to Suns & Lakers

[akademik]

Successful Trade Scenario

Congratulations on a successful trade.
Due to Dallas, Indiana, and Cleveland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas, Indiana, and Cleveland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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Dallas Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -1.5 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and -0.6 apg.

Incoming Players

Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes
Aleksandar Pavlovic
6-7 SG / SF from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
7.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.5 minutes

Outgoing Players

Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.8 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.4 minutes
Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
2.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.9 minutes
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
15.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.4 apg in 31.5 minutes
Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.8 minutes

Indiana Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -10.2 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -7.1 apg.

Incoming Players

Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
2.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.9 minutes
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
15.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 3.4 apg in 31.5 minutes
Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
5.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.8 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.3 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes

Outgoing Players

Danny Granger
6-8 SF from New Mexico
17.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
11.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 8.4 apg in 33.2 minutes
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
15.3 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 2.5 apg in 31.3 minutes

Cleveland Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +11.7 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +7.7 apg.

Incoming Players

Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.8 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.2 apg in 7.4 minutes
Danny Granger
6-8 SF from New Mexico
17.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Jamaal Tinsley
6-1 PG from Iowa State
11.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 8.4 apg in 33.2 minutes

Outgoing Players

Aleksandar Pavlovic
6-7 SG / SF from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
7.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.5 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.3 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes


Dallas does this because you get an athletic big man along with Dirk that actually plays defense. As well as a bigger SG that can drive and has a stroke as good as Terry's. In reality Dallas only trades Damp & Terry for Sasha & JO.

Indiana does this because it actually gives them more experience and depth. They can actually start with that lineup and make the playoffs playing in the east. With a combination of Terry, Damp, Gooden and George, throw in Dunleavy or Daniels and you got a good starting 5. Without the complaining JO, or troublesome Tinsley.

Cleveland does this as a no brainer. You get a legitimate point guard in Tinsley. That can can be used as a 2 guard at times with Gibson. You get a young up n comer with Granger who can definitely fill Sasha position. And you get Howard who is a veteran and play the role Gooden played just without the erratic play.


What are you guys thoughts??????

[your_dallas_mavericks]

Who ends up playing our 3rd string PG? We would have Harris, Barea and who else?

[akademik]

Sasha plays both PG & SG for Cleveland. He can do the same as Terry does.

[Teffer10]

All that I can say is that you are obviously not a Pacers fan.

[dirkforpres]

Im not the biggest Pavlovic fan, but I wouldnt mind seeing Jermaine in Dallas.

[Pointguard01]

No way IND does it. If they trade JO, they are trying to build around, or at least with, Granger.

JET to CLE
Gooden, Dampier, picks, youngsters to IND
JO to DAL

Still dont know if Indiana does it.

[jwa1107]

none of these proposals do IND any good...

[mrmreg]

No way IND does it. If they trade JO, they are trying to build around, or at least with, Granger.

JET to CLE
Gooden, Dampier, picks, youngsters to IND
JO to DAL

Still dont know if Indiana does it.

Considering age, contracts, and production, JO is probably a more valuable player than Shaq, and the Heat are getting Marion for Shaq. The Mavs aren't going to be able to counter by getting JO without giving up comparable value. Josh Howard probably has to be in that conversation, and I doubt the Mavs would deal Josh for JO.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

Considering age, contracts, and production, JO is probably a more valuable player than Shaq, and the Heat are getting Marion for Shaq. The Mavs aren't going to be able to counter by getting JO without giving up comparable value. Josh Howard probably has to be in that conversation, and I doubt the Mavs would deal Josh for JO.

Yes, either Josh or Devin would be the primary proponents of a deal where we would be acquiring JO...

[JapanAir21]

Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't want JO, too injury prone.

[FGump]

Sucks for Dallas, JO may not return this year.

[JES12]

Indiana laughs at that deal
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[Pointguard01]

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Considering age, contracts, and production, JO is probably a more valuable player than Shaq, and the Heat are getting Marion for Shaq. The Mavs aren't going to be able to counter by getting JO without giving up comparable value. Josh Howard probably has to be in that conversation, and I doubt the Mavs would deal Josh for JO.

Or we can compare JO to Gasol, where Gasol has a much better contract, is younger and production is just as good (Gasol much better offensively, JO defensively). The got him for an expirer, young average prospect and pick.

Doesnt mean IND does it, but if we are gonna compare as recent deals...