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Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:38 pm**

Sources told ESPN.com that talks between the Mavericks and Nets, which had seemingly stalled, grew serious after the teams played Sunday night in New Jersey and have moved them to the brink of completing the NBA's third blockbuster deal of the month.

Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by one source close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The proposed swap -- salvaged from talks of a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- would require Dallas to send 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSegana Diop and swingman Devean George and another player such as guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and possibly veteran guard Darrell Armstrong. It's believed that Dallas would also send New Jersey cash and future draft considerations.

Dallas has been widely considered the most likely winner of the Kidd trade sweepstakes, despite the repeated attempts of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to publicly dismiss the idea of parting with multiple regulars for Kidd. Cuban told several New York-based reporters Sunday before New Jersey beat Dallas that a deal for All-Star floor leader would severely weaken his roster.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244102

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:49 pm**

This seems crazy.

I understand wanting Kidd, but this leaves them very thin at C, with Duncan, Shaq and Yao in the conference. And Kidd is very, very old.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:52 pm**

What C's are available for the midlevel?

If this goes down are more trades coming?

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:55 pm**

Yea i dont understand why you guys would give up Diop.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:58 pm**

Truthfully, I would not trade for Kidd at this point unless we could get him for a package of JET, Hassell, Ager, and Jones. Now I'd pony up 3 #1 picks and cash to get that deal done, but otherwise we need to step away... from whatever.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:05 pm**

dabadestalbo69 wrote:Yea i dont understand why you guys would give up Diop.

It isn't a value issue, but a depth issue. Dampier would be the Mavs only C, and he is foul and injury prone. This trade forces the Mavs to play a lot of small ball, which is not Avery Johnson's strength.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:07 pm**

The article on ESPN has been updated to include Malik Allen and another trade that gets us Antoine Wright.

Although sources say that the teams are still sorting out final details, this deal was described as "imminent" by one source close to the process after negotiations moved to an advanced stage Tuesday night. The proposed swap -- salvaged from talks of a three-way trade with Portland that developed and fizzled quickly two weeks ago -- would require Dallas to send 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, veteran swingman Jerry Stackhouse, the expiring contracts of center DeSegana Diop and swingman Devean George and another player such as guard Maurice Ager to New Jersey for Kidd and possibly forward Malik Allen or veteran guard Darrell Armstrong.

It's believed that Dallas would also send New Jersey cash ($3 million is the league maximum) and one or two future first-round draft choices. One source told ESPN.com that the Mavericks and Nets were also discussing a separate trade that would send Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:19 pm**

Dumb for you guys... Harris will probably be better than Kidd by this time next year... And you will be weak at C

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:25 pm**

And at SF. If this happens today the lineup tonite would be

Dirk
Bass
Hassell
Jones
Terry

and Barea and Faz(?) on the bench.

I just cannot see mavs giving up this much for Kidd for tonite and this season

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:27 pm**

I definitely don't think this is a good deal for you guys at all...but then again, it's still Jason Freaking Kidd.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:29 pm**

mavsfoty wrote:What C's are available for the midlevel?

If this goes down are more trades coming?

answer to the first:
Kevin Willis

answer to the second:
probably not because all the pieces DAL has to offer other than JET are gone...

and you'd see Bass and Fazekas playing a lot of C...

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:31 pm**

I guess this is how Knicks fans feel watching Isiah making a trade.

Hopefully the Mavs are putting lottery protection on those picks. They may need it in 3 years.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:31 pm**

jwa1107 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

answer to the first:
Kevin Willis

:shiver:

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:32 pm**

Wow..keep Devin..

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:34 pm**

I do like the Antoine Wright deal. Waive Ager.

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:35 pm**

and I'm not sure I do this deal unless I know Stack or George will be waived by NJN

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:36 pm**

The stack waive is expensive, like 17MM discounted 2.5 years

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:36 pm**

Here is what our lineup would look like with the trade and getting Stack back from a buyout:

Kidd, Terry, Barea
Jones, Wright, Hassell
Howard, Stack
Dirk, Bass, Juwan Howard
Damp, Allen, Fazekas

We don't have the greatest depth with our Biggs, but it's a damn good squad. Terry, Stack, and Bass still anchor the bench. We could always use our MLE or part of our MLE for another player to add depth. We still have tradeable players to make another trade (Hassell, Juwan Howard, Bass (I hope not), and Fazekas)...

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:38 pm**

Why would Dallas not do this ??? Bye-Bye Harris. Hello KIDD !!!!!!

Posted: **Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:42 pm**

Kidd could make Brandon Bass Kenyon Martin-like.

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