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Stern and Cuban call BS on ESPN's saying Stack can't return

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:39 am
by FGump
Stern and Cuban both have called BS on ESPN's saying something was wrong with the Stack-to-NJ-to-Dallas idea and for saying Stack can't return.

Stern

The commissioner said during his All-Star news conference that the league is not blocking the inclusion of Jerry Stackhouse in any trade for Kidd, but that a thorough review of any deal is a virtual certainty.

"Even though I don't want to give Stackhouse and the Mavs their defense too easily, things happen," Stern said. "He certainly is allowed to do that in terms of going back after 30 days. The big issue is whether there is an agreement to do it. And speculating about it doesn't make it an agreement, even if you wish he hadn't spoken."

Stern reiterated that Stackhouse can be involved in the trade. He just emphasized that there can be no prearranged deal.

Cuban

Cuban confirmed that the league spoke to the Mavericks, as well as the Nets, to make sure both sides were adhering to the league's guidelines in the wake of Stackhouse being quoted as saying that he wasn't going anywhere and that he would return to Dallas 30 days after the Nets bought out his contract after completion of the trade.

"They called up and said, 'OK, you know the rules, right?' " he said. "Where does Stack come off [talking]? Well, he thought the deal was done, and he thought they were going to release him, so he said what he said. It's not that unusual.

"It only would have been an issue if something bad had been going on. They can look at whatever they want. There's no issue. Everybody was speculating. The best we can surmise is that other GMs around the league didn't want it to happen and started putting their two cents in."

-Dallas Morning News, 2/17/08

One other note: according to the NJ paper, the NBA has demanded ESPN issue a formal retraction for claiming that league officials had said something was wrong here, when they had said no such thing.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:22 am
by dirkforpres
I saw this, but I dont think the trade is happening anyways

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:34 pm
by catalyst
dirkforpres wrote:I saw this, but I dont think the trade is happening anyways


I dont think it is happening with george. I dont think Cuban will take that much an additional cap hit to resign KVH and include him on this one. George is a different story.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:28 pm
by Rand10
If Stack can be included and is allowed to return to Dallas I don't see any way this doesn't get done. To match salaries for Kidd and Allen we would need to include Harris, Diop, Stack, Ager, and a $2.45 million contract.

We want that contract to be Hassell, New Jersey wants it to be KVH. If Dallas gives in it would cost us $4.9 million in luxury tax, but the $3 million cash we sent in the deal could be taken out. So in the end it will only cost us about $2 million dollars. That won't stop it from happening.

Both teams may wait it out to try and get the other to cave. My guess is the trade will happen by Wednesday before either of us play.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:47 pm
by lhampton24
I agree with mavfan33. This trade will definitely go through after the Allstar game. It could come as early as this coming Tuesday.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:52 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
mavfan33 wrote:If Stack can be included and is allowed to return to Dallas I don't see any way this doesn't get done. To match salaries for Kidd and Allen we would need to include Harris, Diop, Stack, Ager, and a $2.45 million contract.

We want that contract to be Hassell, New Jersey wants it to be KVH. If Dallas gives in it would cost us $4.9 million in luxury tax, but the $3 million cash we sent in the deal could be taken out. So in the end it will only cost us about $2 million dollars. That won't stop it from happening.

Both teams may wait it out to try and get the other to cave. My guess is the trade will happen by Wednesday before either of us play.


If Stack is bought out, then I expect the $3 million to go to New Jersey. If it's KVH and not George or Hassell, then there would need to be some adjustments on either or both 1st round draft picks. Also, Antoine Wright could just be included in this deal (making a new deal altogether) which could also allow for latitude.

So here is what could be the determining factors in the trade:
1. If we trade George, Hassell, or KVH
2. If we give none, one, or both 1st round choices
3. If they give Antoine Wright as part of this deal, or part of a seperate deal.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:40 pm
by JES12
Antoine Wright would still, most certainly, be a seperate deal.

He is paid $1,680,600 this year which fits nicely in out trade exception.

The Nets already paid about 65% of his contract and is only due $600K give or take. If KVH was in the deal, he would have to be 80% of Wright's contract, which is $1,344,480. So why on earth would NJ pay over $700K more when ther is no need to.