An After Kidd Trade with Indy & Cleve

daoneandonly · Post #1 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:01 pm

Dallas Gets: Jeff Foster, Travis Dienier
Indy Gets: Damon Jones, Ira Newble, Cedric Simmons
Clev Gets: Jason Terry, Stephen Graham

Dallas Gets their backup C since they lost Diop, Dienier can be the backup PG to Kidd, Lebron finally gets some help in Terry, and Indy sheds salary, ira expires, Cedric is young,and Jones is half of Foster's salary same length.

Kidd/Dienier/Barea
Wright/Jones
Howard/Stack/George
Dirk/Bass/Allen
Damp/Foster

Thoughts?

Post #2 » by **catalyst** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:03 pm

I think foster may be worth more than that.

dirkforpres · Post #3 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:17 pm

I dont like that for the Mavs, i think they could get more for JET... Not that they are even trying to trade him

sweet daddy · Post #4 » by **sweet daddy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:21 pm

2 players that would fit our team, me thinks, but it would sure leave us weak at the 2 spot. Even if you don't love Terry at the 2, he's the best scoring option we've got there.

Would be nice if we could follow this up with a trade for a sg. But man, that's a lot of change at one time.

Post #5 » by **catalyst** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:30 pm

I think mavs could half ass it for the rest of this season between Jones, Stack, Wright, and George at SG. Theya already are with what is here. My worry is the C.

JES12 · Post #6 » by **JES12** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:24 pm

The best we can hope for from Indy is

Foster
Tinsley

for

Terry
Barea
Fazekas

Which opens a spot for the KVH S&T, but I doubt such a trade happens before the Kidd trade, thus Faz will be waived.

Rand10 · Post #7 » by **Rand10** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:26 pm

JES12 wrote:The best we can hope for from Indy is

Foster
Tinsley

for

Terry
Barea
Fazekas

Which opens a spot for the KVH S&T, but I doubt such a trade happens before the Kidd trade, thus Faz will be waived.

Terry >>>>>>>>> Tinsley playing with Kidd.

JES12 · Post #8 » by **JES12** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:29 pm

mavfan33 wrote:Terry >>>>>>>>> Tinsley playing with Kidd.

Tinsley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diener

And the idea behind that would to be Kidd's old age backup PG and let Stack/Jones/George play the 2.

But this whole thread is based off of the OP's dislike of Terry. Personally, I think any Center we get will be picked up off waivers.

Rand10 · Post #9 » by **Rand10** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:35 pm

JES12 wrote:Tinsley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diener

And the idea behind that would to be Kidd's old age backup PG and let Stack/Jones/George play the 2.

But this whole thread is based off of the OP's dislike of Terry. Personally, I think any Center we get will be picked up off waivers.

When you consider money, chemistry, and off the court issues I'd rather have Barea as Kidd's backup than Tinsley.

jwa1107 · Post #10 » by **jwa1107** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:37 pm

JES12 wrote:Personally, I think any Center we get will be picked up off waivers.

agreed
or a FA sitting on the couch

I can't see DAL making any more trades this season

Teffer10 · Post #11 » by **Teffer10** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:44 pm

catalyst wrote:I think mavs could half ass it for the rest of this season between Jones, Stack, Wright, and George at SG. Theya already are with what is here. My worry is the C.

My thoughts exactly!!!

Priorities imo:

1. Center
2. Athletic SG
3. Backup PG

We are basically limited to tweaking at this point so I don't see any major moves with Terry this week. I think the Mavs will make a minor move for a shot blocking backup center and that will be it. I hate to say it but I still think Juwan for Booth is the best option if we don't want to give up any major pieces. Guys like KT and some of the others mentioned will require us to give up some decent role players. Don't see that happening.
Hopefully, we can just sign PJ and that should be all that we need to do.

myconsumerclub · Post #12 » by **myconsumerclub** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:29 pm

"Priorities imo:

1. Center
2. Athletic SG
3. Backup PG "

AGREE. Idea on how to not waive Fazekas do another trade involving Juwan and Terry to NY for Curry.

Post #13 » by **studcrackers** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:43 pm

that original trade is terrible. so cleveland gives up crap and gets the best player in the deal. i would never trade terry to cleveland, the last thing i want to see is lebron with some good shooters

and i cant believe people actually want curry too

JES12 · Post #14 » by **JES12** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:52 pm

studcrackers wrote:that original trade is terrible. so cleveland gives up crap and gets the best player in the deal. i would never trade terry to cleveland, the last thing i want to see is lebron with some good shooters

and i cant believe people actually want curry too

I'm with you on that one. Curry sucks and we don't have enough bad contracts to think about him.

jwa1107 · Post #15 » by **jwa1107** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:56 pm

^^^
and people think Juwan will not be a part of this team; he's here for the rest of this year.
he may even make the playoff roster...
book it!

NuclearPalsy · Post #16 » by **NuclearPalsy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:13 pm

Jeff Foster has the eyebrows of a great magician...

jwa1107 · Post #17 » by **jwa1107** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:23 pm

is the answer "Doug Henning"?

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #18 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:24 pm

myconsumerclub wrote:"Priorities imo:

1. Center
2. Athletic SG
3. Backup PG "

AGREE. Idea on how to not waive Fazekas do another trade involving Juwan and Terry to NY for Curry.

I'm not sure if we have enough to get Curry, cap wise. But he doesnt give us what we need defensivly. yes, he can score but the guy is a poor rebounder and doesnt block a shot to save his life. I'd rather keep Terry and see how he plays with Kidd when they share the court. Lets not kid ourselves, Diop wasnt a world beater, he sucked on offense but hustled and could be a real factor defensively. BUT he was so damn inconsistent. All we need to do if find someone like that...ie Kurt Thomas, Gadzuric, Magliore, etc

NuclearPalsy · Post #19 » by **NuclearPalsy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:39 pm

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hph6203 · Post #20 » by **hph6203** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:18 am

You guys are all crazy. Terry is the starting "SG" now. Why are you going to trade him for depth at C?

Bottom line, this team is going to have to deal with not having an offensive C in the near future, and by that I mean for at least the next 2-3 years unless we just get ridiculously lucky and find an untapped prospect.

Mavs are not going to trade for depth at the C unless it's trading our 2nd + rights to seibitus/reyshawn terry for the depth. They're going to sign a player off waivers when one gets cut, and then this offseason they'll spend the full MLE on a back up C. Perhaps Diop if he's not too upset about being traded, and doesn't grab bigger than MLE money from another team (doubtful).

PG: Kidd/Barea/Terry
SG: Terry/Stackhouse/Jones
SF: Howard/Stackhouse/George
PF: Dirk/Bass/Juwan
C: Dampier/???????/Juwan

This team is going to have to play small ball for at least some stretches. We could certainly do that with a line up of:

PG: Kidd
SG: Terry
SF: Howard
PF: Bass
C: Dirk

That team can run and get out on the break. I know Mavs fans don't like it, because it didn't work well when we used to do it, but until a decent big is put out there we're not going to get a legit back up to Dampier.