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Avery tried to deal Dirk!!!

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:31 pm
by arkuo
per hoopshype...

According to an infallible source, the Mavericks' coach pressed team owner Mark Cuban to deal Dirk after the NBA's MVP came up shamefully small against the Warriors in last season's upsetting first-round elimination, but was overruled. Johnson's ideal leader is supposed to offer positive guidance and counsel on and off the court, as well as in and out of church. That disqualifies Kidd. Still, one sphere of influence is better than none. Convinced a championship is otherwise beyond capture, Avery compromised his primary concern.


i dont know how this will affect dirk if he reads that his coach just pushed to trade him and its the owner that stuck by him.... i hope he comes back and plays the second half as motivated as ever to prove avery wrong....

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:33 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
I don't believe this infallible source. Sounds like they are fallible.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:36 pm
by NuclearPalsy
Just from hearing Avery speak I can imagine him saying that about Dirk.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:39 pm
by arkuo
just what we need... more drama in Big D....

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:41 pm
by Basketballmania
trade avery!
i start to believe that there are better coaches out there...
larry brown for example
or pat riley if he quits in miami. he would be nice on the bench.
avery just doesn't reach the players anymore i think

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:48 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
He is not the same guy who took over for Nellie. He needs a humility check.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:55 pm
by ppp000
Guys calm down, It's PETER VESCEY. Enough Said.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:58 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
Like I said, the infallible source sounds fallible. No wonder he wanted to be kept anonymous, he knew no one would believe him if they knew who said it.

Move on, nothing to see here. People are scared of the Mavs and are now making up lies in order to degrade the organization from within...

:)

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:59 pm
by FGump
Don't believe this.

The author is Peter Vecsey, who (a) has lots of "infallible" sources that are proven repeatedly to be full of crap, and (b) is well known to dislike the Mavs and write lies to cause turmoil if he can.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:04 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
Listen to your Gump people! Listen to your Gump!

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:39 pm
by NuclearPalsy
Agreed, even if it sound plausible if it's coming from Peter Vecsey about the Mavs.... write it off as BS.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:51 pm
by Realmavsman
Peter Vescey absolutely hates Cuban and it is not even a stretch to believe that he made this up to cause problems on Cuban's team. Not that anyone on this team would give much thought to some idiotic report like this.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:54 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
The only problem is Kidd, Allen, and Wright may not know this about Vescey. Well, he does write for the Post - nuff said.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:24 pm
by dirkforpres
I dont believe this at all... Dirk will be in Dallas even longer than Mark Cuban will be. Somebody is just trying to stir up some drama.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:30 pm
by sosafan70
ppp000 wrote:Guys calm down, It's PETER VESCEY. Enough Said.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:08 pm
by JES12
your_dallas_mavericks wrote:Listen to your Gump people! Listen to your Gump!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmiO4SavZI

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:10 pm
by akademik
But to be honest they are only saying what us Dallas fans are hating to admit. That Dirk is too too soft for us.

Here is a trade Avery may like

Dallas Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +8.0 ppg, +6.2 rpg, and -0.8 apg.
Incoming Players

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.5 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
9.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 17.4 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 27.6 minutes

Outgoing Players
Dirk Nowitzki
7-0 PF from Germany (Foreign)
22.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.0 apg in 36.6 minutes
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes

Denver Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +10.7 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and +3.6 apg.
Incoming Players

Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.3 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes

Outgoing Players

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.5 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
6.4 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.8 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
9.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 17.4 minutes

New York Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -18.7 ppg, -6.1 rpg, and -2.8 apg.
Incoming Players

Dirk Nowitzki
7-0 PF from Germany (Foreign)
22.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.0 apg in 36.6 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
6.4 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.8 minutes

Outgoing Players

Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.3 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 27.6 minutes

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:12 pm
by JES12
If Dirk was leaving, it would have been for KG.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:10 pm
by DevilsAdv
I don't know if this rumor is true but I thought it was obvious during the Golden State series that Avery was VERY disappointed in the lack of heart that Dirk showed. In some of the post game interviews Avery would speak so highly of how players like Baron Davis just wouldn't quit no matter what the Mavs threw at him. You could tell by the look on Avery's face that he knew Dirk did not have that same kind of toughness.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:26 pm
by ppp000
akademik wrote:But to be honest they are only saying what us Dallas fans are hating to admit. That Dirk is too too soft for us.

Here is a trade Avery may like

Dallas Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +8.0 ppg, +6.2 rpg, and -0.8 apg.
Incoming Players

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.5 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
9.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 17.4 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 27.6 minutes

Outgoing Players
Dirk Nowitzki
7-0 PF from Germany (Foreign)
22.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.0 apg in 36.6 minutes
Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes

Denver Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +10.7 ppg, -0.1 rpg, and +3.6 apg.
Incoming Players

Juwan Howard
6-9 PF from Michigan
0.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes
Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.3 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes

Outgoing Players

Kenyon Martin
6-9 PF from Cincinnati
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.5 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
6.4 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.8 minutes
J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
9.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 17.4 minutes

New York Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -18.7 ppg, -6.1 rpg, and -2.8 apg.
Incoming Players

Dirk Nowitzki
7-0 PF from Germany (Foreign)
22.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.0 apg in 36.6 minutes
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
6.4 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.8 minutes

Outgoing Players

Zach Randolph
6-9 PF from Michigan State
17.3 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 33.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
20.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 41.7 minutes
David Lee
6-9 PF from Florida
10.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 27.6 minutes


Thanks but no thanks for that junk.

Seriously Dirk may be soft, but lets give him some credit. He has kept this franchise at a very high level and he wasn't "soft" when he took us to the finals was he?

Geez, I'm all for ragging Dirk when he plays badly but the blame should go around. Dirk, Avery, the team failed in their failures. Who stepped up when Dirk was manhandled by 2-3 guys? Who changed their starting lineup to try to play mind games with Nellie?

The grass always look greener on the other side.