Should we make further moves?

Darren · Post #1 » by **Darren** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 10:54 am

For another big body? For a Kobe-stopper? For a 3-point specialist?

Knowing Avery, I don't think any rookie can help at this point.
I don't expect to sign Justin Williams. He's really interesting, though.

What about Dale Davis? He's said to sign with Pistons but nothing materialized. What about Chris Anderson? He's said to be re-signed by New Orleans but nothing happened yet. We do need physical big to protect the jungle for us.

I don't think there's 3-point specialist out there unless you are referring to ex-NBA players. So, no.

A Kobe stopper is for real. If we are going to advance, we would definitely see a lot of Kobe. Should we consider Ruben Patterson? How awful is him as a person? And how good is he as a player? Is he looking for too much money? Or he's about to be sent to prison?

What happen to him? Why would the Clippers cut him? And why there's no team taking him? He could be a high risk high reward type of player that give us a more versatile roster.

To sign anyone, we should cut somebody like Juwan, Eddie, JJ, or Malik.

Captain_Obvious · Post #2 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:11 pm

If we meet with LAL in the first round we can sign him just before the playoffs start.

Ruben will be there on day release from prison town to stop Kobe lol

dirkforpres · Post #3 » by **dirkforpres** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 4:33 pm

Juwan should be the next in line to get cut, but I doubt the Mavs will make any more moves till this summer

superemxguy · Post #4 » by **superemxguy** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 6:32 pm

Darren wrote:
A Kobe stopper is for real. If we are going to advance, we would definitely see a lot of Kobe. Should we consider Ruben Patterson? How awful is him as a person? And how good is he as a player? Is he looking for too much money? Or he's about to be sent to prison?

You guys already have a Kobe stopper in Antoine Wright !!! He always guard opposing players biggest scorer. He like Bruce Bowen !!!

Avery Johnson is an idiot for not playing Antoine Wright vs the lakers.

I know the players came from the NETS.

Antoine Wright = defense guy ( very good )
Malik Allen = pick and pop guy ( excellent at 10 to 15 feet )
Jamal McGloire = garbage ( tend to fumble the ball, looser )
( old tiger wit no teeth )

They should have Antoine Wright guarding Kobe.
Kobe won't score 52, it would be like 22.

The reason Lawrence Frank starts Antoine Wright early in the season was because of his perimeter defense.

Serpo · Post #5 » by **Serpo** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 6:38 pm

Actually it was because Vince was hurt ...

But Wright should at least get a shot , its not like your bench has shown much this season.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #6 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 7:29 pm

Serpo, Avery won't give Wright a chance - he won't even activate the kid...

italy_23 · Post #7 » by **italy_23** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 7:41 pm

thats why I have lost all respect for avery. he rather gives stackhouse all the minutes even thou he clearly couldnt defend kobe. typical avery. and I bet next game vs lakers will be no different

myconsumerclub · Post #8 » by **myconsumerclub** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:33 pm

Fire Avery NOW!!!!!
Wright at SG Stopper on D is a must do.
Mags as a backup C Ditto
Malik Allen as a backup PF good shot and size! This moves Bass to SF.
Bass as a SF with Howard at the 2 Kidd at the 1 = big backcourt especially with Wright backing up the 2 and 3. Terry is too much of a defensive liability to do much more than the 1 and Lue can hit the 3 just as good.

Dirk and Damp are the 4/5 combo we ride to a championship but we need size in the backcourt coupled with better D. Terry and Stack suck on D. George did look good the other night and is performing better than Stack. If Terry is put in the game the other team better have a small PG for him to match up with. We should have traded them but if we are stuck make them sit if they won't play d!

Post #9 » by **catalyst** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 10:22 pm

I would hope that for the sake of experimentation, Wright is activated in 2 weeks. Let him guard Kobe and see what the kid can do. Could not be worse than what was thrown down Sunday

Teffer10 · Post #10 » by **Teffer10** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 4:06 am

myconsumerclub wrote:Fire Avery NOW!!!!!
Wright at SG Stopper on D is a must do.
Mags as a backup C Ditto
Malik Allen as a backup PF good shot and size! This moves Bass to SF.
Bass as a SF with Howard at the 2 Kidd at the 1 = big backcourt especially with Wright backing up the 2 and 3. Terry is too much of a defensive liability to do much more than the 1 and Lue can hit the 3 just as good.

Dirk and Damp are the 4/5 combo we ride to a championship but we need size in the backcourt coupled with better D. Terry and Stack suck on D. George did look good the other night and is performing better than Stack. If Terry is put in the game the other team better have a small PG for him to match up with. We should have traded them but if we are stuck make them sit if they won't play d!

I agree with everything you say with the exception of the first suggestion.
However, that is what it would take to make the other things you mention happen.

We have the opportunity to go big and become better defensively with this team if Avery would understand that Stack and Terry are the biggest problems on this team.

This is what I would like to see over the next few games:

Damp/Mags
Dirk/Allen
Bass/George
Howard/Wright/Stack
Kidd/Terry/Lue

If we want any chance of winning in the POs with this roster, it better look something like that. Terry and Stack's roles need to be limited from here on out unless the team actually looks worse by the end of the reg season.

Ozek · Post #11 » by **Ozek** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 5:47 am

Teffer10 wrote:This is what I would like to see over the next few games:

Damp/Mags
Dirk/Allen
Bass/George
Howard/Wright/Stack
Kidd/Terry/Lue

If we want any chance of winning in the POs with this roster, it better look something like that. Terry and Stack's roles need to be limited from here on out unless the team actually looks worse by the end of the reg season.

We got no chance of winning if Terry isn't on the court and isn't shooting well. Damp aint gonna score diddly. Kidd can't score. Howard is fine. Bass is decent. Dirk is double and triple teamed. Stackhouse is streaky. Loe, Wright, Allen, Mags, no points.

If you keep Terry on the bench you're asking Dirk to score 50 points through double-coverage. Zero chance of winning. Terry is the player that stretches the defense. You really think anyone gives a crap if Kidd shoots 50 wide open jumpers all game? Nope.

Teffer10 · Post #12 » by **Teffer10** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:19 am

Ozek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

We got no chance of winning if Terry isn't on the court and isn't shooting well. Damp aint gonna score diddly. Kidd can't score. Howard is fine. Bass is decent. Dirk is double and triple teamed. Stackhouse is streaky. Loe, Wright, Allen, Mags, no points.

If you keep Terry on the bench you're asking Dirk to score 50 points through double-coverage. Zero chance of winning. Terry is the player that stretches the defense. You really think anyone gives a crap if Kidd shoots 50 wide open jumpers all game? Nope.

Avery wonders why this team is such a jump shooting team but can't seem to understand that Terry and Stackhouse only shoot jump shots and have nothing else to offer.

If we are planning to rely on Terry and Stack's erratic shooting and no D to carry us through the POs, we are in deep crap.

We can live with one defensive liability on the court (Dirk), but 3 on the court at the same time makes us pathetic...especially in the last few minutes of the game when Avery's 3 pets are running the show.

Terry and Stack flat out stink up the chemistry of this team.

Darren · Post #13 » by **Darren** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:33 pm

What about Dale Davis?

I don't think I have enough trust in the bigs on the bench. Jamaal Magloire is considered out of shape. Brandon Bass is small and inconsistent. Malik Allen is not quick or big enough to do his demage. His offensive skill is limited. Juwan Howard can't do anything particularly well.

Dale Davis at least gives some size and he's still in great physical shape to rebound. He's also a decent defender. He's been to Finals before. I think he deserve some consideration.

arkuo · Post #14 » by **arkuo** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 1:55 pm

dallas could use part of their MLE to sign jamario moon from toronto... he's a high flyer that would work pretty well with kidd IMO... kinda like a young shawn marion to me... and waaaay cheaper too...

Teffer10 · Post #15 » by **Teffer10** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:44 pm

arkuo wrote:dallas could use part of their MLE to sign jamario moon from toronto... he's a high flyer that would work pretty well with kidd IMO... kinda like a young shawn marion to me... and waaaay cheaper too...

I think Pops would be a good fit with Kidd. I'd rather have him on the team than Juwan Howard.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #16 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 4:45 pm

I don't think we should make anymore moves. I like the team as it is. The only problem is Avery isn't using the team to its highest potential. When he does, this team will be unstoppable...