In Stackhouse, Dallas Mavericks have go-to guard

Post #1 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:01 pm

Jerry Stackhouse wondered why every guard with a pulse got the chance to start except him.

It bothered Stackhouse. But the veteran swallowed his pride, bit his tongue and waited for coach Avery Johnson to turn to him.

The Mavericks haven't lost since.

Go ahead and dismiss the competition. Wins over New Jersey, New York and Charlotte aren't going to make anyone look differently at these Mavericks.

But confidence and momentum have to be built from the ground up. The Mavericks have played better with Stackhouse in the starting backcourt than they have with any other combination since Jason Kidd joined the team.

"We were kind of sputtering a little bit," said Stackhouse, who finished with 10 points and six assists in Wednesday's obliteration of the Bobcats. "Avery went with what he felt was needed to get it going. I take a lot of pride in that.

"I've never once asked him or told him that I should start or wanted to start."

Stackhouse started the first two games of the season. Eddie Jones, Jason Terry, Josh Howard and Deaven George have rotated through the position since then. Even Maurice Ager and J.J. Barea took their turns.

Stackhouse was silent as Johnson spoke of the need for a 3-point shooter at that position to spread the floor.

"It's not about who's the best 3-point shooter," Stackhouse said. "It's about being a threat and playing basketball."

He didn't squawk when Johnson longed for a shut-down defender.

"I think the whole defensive thing is overrated," Stackhouse said. "You know what I'm saying, trying to start the game with defense. Sometimes, it's just mental.

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your_dallas_mavericks · Post #2 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:34 pm

Stack is back, and trust me - the Mavs are the better for it!

jtg41 · Post #3 » by **jtg41** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:12 pm

I haven't watched these guys play since the Houston, although I have been keeping up with the blow out scores and box scores from the games. So are we really back (noticeable difference?) or is it just cause of the teams we played?

Teffer10 · Post #4 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:50 am

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:Stack is back, and trust me - the Mavs are the better for it!

What is back about Stack, inconsistent jump shooting or lack of defense?
"Stack is back" isn't saying much.

dirkforpres · Post #5 » by **dirkforpres** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:11 am

Stack is back? Ill believe it when I see it, and I mean over an entire stretch of games, not just 1 or 2

Teddy KGB · Post #6 » by **Teddy KGB** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:31 am

Stack is back? to being rubbish? when did he stop?

Post #7 » by **DDansby123** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:22 pm

Anybody taken the time to notice what Stack's done since the Kidd trade?

40% from the floor (bad, I know, but an improvement nonetheless)
48% from 3 (I'll bet money most of you didn't know that)
100% on FTs (31-31 in 11 games)
1.26 PPS (higher than JET's and Josh's for the season)

And how about a 3.2 AST/TO ratio in February?

What does the guy have to do to get some respect? He's not going to be an elite defender, but he does put forth effort on that end at least. And offensively, as you can see, he's done pretty well in the 11 games he's played with Kidd here.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #8 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:46 pm

^^ thank you DD123, you da man for pointing that out. Stack brings effort and willingness to the table. He is true grit and determination. He is the backbone of toughness. The best thing about Stack is throughout everything he re-defined the sixth man position on the Mavs and now has been rewarded with starting duties...

He does whatever is asked of him, no question, no problem. So, Philly, Detroit and Washington said he was a problem? Ya know, he has never been one here. Stack found a home here and he wouldn't have if Finley had accepted the sixth man role for himself. Funny how someone else's decisions can open the door for yourself...

Teffer10 · Post #9 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:51 pm

DDansby123 wrote:Anybody taken the time to notice what Stack's done since the Kidd trade?

40% from the floor (bad, I know, but an improvement nonetheless)
48% from 3 (I'll bet money most of you didn't know that)
100% on FTs (31-31 in 11 games)
1.26 PPS (higher than JET's and Josh's for the season)

And how about a 3.2 AST/TO ratio in February?

What does the guy have to do to get some respect? He's not going to be an elite defender, but he does put forth effort on that end at least. And offensively, as you can see, he's done pretty well in the 11 games he's played with Kidd here.

If all of that is true, and I'm sure it is because you are usually thorough in your research, YDM should be saying "Stack is gone". Did not know that he put up those kind of numbers from the 3 and FTs.
He still makes me nervous on the defensive end no matter how hard he tries.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #10 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:19 pm

^^ Yeah, but T10 - Stack is Back just rolls off my tongue. Stack is gone sounds so generic...

:rofl:

Post #11 » by **DDansby123** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:59 pm

Teffer10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
If all of that is true, and I'm sure it is because you are usually thorough in your research, YDM should be saying "Stack is gone". Did not know that he put up those kind of numbers from the 3 and FTs.
He still makes me nervous on the defensive end no matter how hard he tries.

The thing is, I don't really like Stack that much. I don't think we should've re-signed him (particular now that we have Kidd), and I hate that he's now a jumpshooter and a bit of a chucker at times. And, yes, he still makes me nervous as hell when he's on the court.

But I do have to give him credit for his performance over the past 11 games, short though that may be.

aschneider970 · Post #12 » by **aschneider970** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:11 pm

i love everything bout stack, classy guy

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #13 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:23 pm

^^ Hear, here! He can sing the National Anthem too, and well!

Teffer10 · Post #14 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:57 pm

DDansby123 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The thing is, I don't really like Stack that much. I don't think we should've re-signed him (particular now that we have Kidd), and I hate that he's now a jumpshooter and a bit of a chucker at times. And, yes, he still makes me nervous as hell when he's on the court.

But I do have to give him credit for his performance over the past 11 games, short though that may be.

I give credit to Stack for changing his attitude since he has been in Dallas.
He has done everything that has been asked and then some. He has resorted to the style of play that fits him best at this stage of his career which is jump shooting and I think that really hurts our team. If he can keep it up throughout the POs, I'm okay with him. However, I have a hard time believing that will happen. Like Terry, if those jumpers aren't falling, he is basically dead weight.

I was shocked when they resigned him to that contract. I thought half the amount and length would have been more than fair.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #15 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:38 pm

It factors into other things like the toughness and the tenacity. What he brings to the table cannot be necessarily shown on a stat sheet.

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #16 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:03 pm

yah, Stack is a 'bad ass'. I don't necessarily mean his game at this point, but in general, the guy is a Bad Ass and he knows it and he's confident because of it.

mavsfan1000 · Post #17 » by **mavsfan1000** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:28 pm

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:It factors into other things like the toughness and the tenacity. What he brings to the table cannot be necessarily shown on a stat sheet.

Good because his stat sheet is normally pretty empty except for shot attempts. Kidd has made Stack a better shooter I gotta say which is a relief because it can get pretty ugly when Stack goes 1 on 1.

Darren · Post #18 » by **Darren** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:20 am

In Stack, you've got more foul drawn, decent passer and bigger size. Potentially, you've a better defender. Of course, there's more ill-advised jumpers also.

myconsumerclub · Post #19 » by **myconsumerclub** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:05 am

As a starter he plays with a better cast so his game should improve and since he doesn't need to be the man when he is in the game with Dirk Howard and Kidd he doesn't force it as much which is what I hated about his game. This is a good role for him especially with Terry and Wright available to come in if he is cold. Our depth at the 2 is now a strength on this team.

Post #20 » by **DDansby123** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:17 am

myconsumerclub wrote:As a starter he plays with a better cast so his game should improve and since he doesn't need to be the man when he is in the game with Dirk Howard and Kidd he doesn't force it as much which is what I hated about his game. This is a good role for him especially with Terry and Wright available to come in if he is cold. Our depth at the 2 is now a strength on this team.

I completely agree. I think Avery's got Stack in the point-forward role right now, which has really worked for him. He's always had the ability to be a good passer, but the fact that he's had to be the "bench scorer" for so long has caused him, IMO, to jack up a bunch of ill-advised shots trying to force the issue. Now, he's looking for teammates first and not forcing as many shots. Granted, he still falls into the trap of chucking up shots he shouldn't (as many Mavs do), but if he can get comfortable in this new role, he could be great for us come playoff time.